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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I wouldn’t be so quick to rule out cabling.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Ring voltage is WAY higher than anything else that goes through that cable, so ringing can often highlight cabling problems that other
signals appear to be fine with. It is common to have a “partial” short (e.g. nicked wire insulation, or moisture) that does not conduct noticeably at low voltages, but the high voltage ringing will break through and make the problem apparent.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">A butt set would probably still “hear” the ringing even if most of the ring current is sucked up by a partial short in the cabling.
A better test would be an old-style telephone set with a mechanical bell ringer.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Unless the line can ring a mechanical bell ringer, IMO you cannot confidently proclaim that the cabling is fine.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Horton, Jamin<br>
<b>Sent:</b> March-14-16 11:23 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Anthony Holloway <avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] No inbound call signaling<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Anthony / Ryan,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Appreciate the feedback. Comments below.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">1. Did you plug in an analog phone to the analog line (aka 1FB, aka POTS) and confirm inbound and outbound dialing? I couldn't tell from your wording, if you plugged the phone into the router or the trunk line.<span style="color:red">
Yes, I used a butt set and was able to confirm inbound dialing. I also configured a route pattern that used the FXO outbound and can see it make the port active and it rings my cell just fine.</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">2. What debugs are you using, and are you trying to debug to the terminal session or to the buffer? What does your debug config look like?
<span style="color:red">Debug vpm signal, debug mgcp all, debug voice ccapi inout.</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">3. What type of analog trunk signaling is it? Loop start? Ground start? E&M?
<span style="color:red">Loop start. I tried configuring Ground Start as well but no dice.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Is there a plar on the voice port going somewhere you are not expecting maybe?
<span style="color:red">No, I have it set to ring where I want but never see anything inbound</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Have you tried a new cable from the demarcation to the router?
<span style="color:red">No, cable does not appear to be the issue as I can dial outbound fine via the router and inbound/outbound using a butt set.</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">If the telco is using anti-tinkle circuits, you may need to play around with the ring in frequency.
<span style="color:red">I’m going to open a case with them, I’ll definitely ask about this. Thanks!</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">You may also need to adjust the dc-offset voltage.
<span style="color:red">I’m going to open a case with them, I’ll definitely ask about this. Thanks!</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I’m going to open a case with Telco to verify that my ringing current is sufficient.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Anthony Holloway<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 14, 2016 10:26 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Horton, Jamin<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] No inbound call signaling<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Sounds like you know what your doing, but I'll just ask and confirm three things:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">1. Did you plug in an analog phone to the analog line (aka 1FB, aka POTS) and confirm inbound and outbound dialing? I couldn't tell from your wording, if you plugged the phone into the router or the trunk line.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">2. What debugs are you using, and are you trying to debug to the terminal session or to the buffer? What does your debug config look like?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">3. What type of analog trunk signaling is it? Loop start? Ground start? E&M?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Horton, Jamin <<a href="mailto:jamin.horton@oneneck.com" target="_blank">jamin.horton@oneneck.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">I have a weird one. I’m in a rural area for a customer and I can’t get inbound calls on the FXO port to generate any debugs of any kind. I can call outbound all
day and see debugs when doing so. I’ve put a phone on the end of the cable going into the router and verified inbound calls ring in from the PSTN. However the second it’s connected to the FXO port I get nothing on the CLI. We’ve replaced PVDM and FXO card,
even tried a different router. I’m thinking it may be possibly be an inbound ringing current issue. Thoughts anyone?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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