<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>I hear ya. In this case it was trying to get additional hardware. We're going to evaluate the difficulties going forward and like upgrade to a different version in a couple of years. Budget permitting. <br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Mar 24, 2016, at 11:16 AM, Matthew Loraditch <<a href="mailto:MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com">MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">You can certainly do that. If you are getting BE7Ks and have vcenter I really suggest getting the ESXi foundation license. Just makes
your life easier.<o:p></o:p></span></a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Penny wise and pound foolish as the old saying goes.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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Network Engineer<br>
Direct Voice: 443.541.1518</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> cisco-voip [<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Lelio Fulgenzi<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 24, 2016 10:47 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Brian V <<a href="mailto:bvanbens@gmail.com">bvanbens@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] UCS move VMs to new server<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">so, the problem is not having vCentre, we have that. the problem is, we have to pay additional dollars for the version of ESXi that supports vCentre. we're getting
the off-the-shelf BE7K.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">i was told by a few people that using the vSphere stand alone client, we could connect to one UCS server, download the files. then connect to another and upload
the files.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">i was hoping to get some confirmation from the group.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure<br>
Computing and Communications Services (CCS)<br>
University of Guelph<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a><br>
<a href="http://www.uoguelph.ca/ccs">www.uoguelph.ca/ccs</a><br>
Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">"Brian V" <<a href="mailto:bvanbens@gmail.com">bvanbens@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>To: </b><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Thursday, March 24, 2016 10:31:03 AM<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [cisco-voip] UCS move VMs to new server<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">Would the free version of Veeam work ?<br>
I use this for my home lab to backup the VMs'<br>
It downloads and compresses the whole VM into a singe file (80GB CUCM OVA is about 18GB after compression)<br>
I haven't tried it to move a VM yet.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">On 3/24/2016 8:59 AM, Heim, Dennis wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">You can always turn up a vCenter trial. You would need some type of shared storage. Many consumer grade
NAS boxes will support NFS or iSCSI which will do the trick. I have never tried the cold move without vCenter.</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> Lelio
Fulgenzi [<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 24, 2016 9:42 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Heim, Dennis <a href="mailto:Dennis.Heim@wwt.com" target="_blank"><Dennis.Heim@wwt.com></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Reto Gassmann <a href="mailto:voip@mrga.ch" target="_blank"><voip@mrga.ch></a>;
<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] UCS move VMs to new server</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">I believe cold moves are also available without vCentre. But rather than moving from one UCS to another,
you have to move from UCS to a PC then to the other UCS.</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">We're looking at BE7K servers without the vCentre compatible ESXi software for at least the next year.
Gonna see if we can manage without vCentre for a while.</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">Lelio</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">---<br>
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure<br>
Computing and Communications Services (CCS)<br>
University of Guelph</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">519</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math",serif;color:black">‐</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">824</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math",serif;color:black">‐</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">4120
Ext 56354<br>
<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a><br>
<a href="http://www.uoguelph.ca/ccs" target="_blank">www.uoguelph.ca/ccs</a><br>
Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building<br>
Guelph, Ontario, N1G 2W1</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">"Dennis Heim" <<a href="mailto:Dennis.Heim@wwt.com" target="_blank">Dennis.Heim@wwt.com</a>><br>
<b>To: </b>"Reto Gassmann" <<a href="mailto:voip@mrga.ch" target="_blank">voip@mrga.ch</a>>,
<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Thursday, March 24, 2016 9:32:23 AM<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [cisco-voip] UCS move VMs to new server<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Do you have vCenter?</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">If you have vCenter, I would do cold migrations. Shut down the VM and then migrate it to the new host,
then power it back on.</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> cisco-voip
[<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Reto Gassmann<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 24, 2016 9:09 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [cisco-voip] UCS move VMs to new server</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">We have to replace some of our old UCS C210-M2 server to new UCS 240-M4.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">On the old server are 2 UCM (10.5.2) and 1 CUIC (10.5.1) VM installed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">Thanks for feedback<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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