<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>But I have yet to see a 7925 deployment that the end users are happy with. It is seemingly impossible for the wireless guys to get it perfect. <br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On May 12, 2016, at 10:29 AM, Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) <<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com">rratliff@cisco.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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I’ll take a slight issue with the original response about CIPC not being stable over wireless.
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<div class="">Personally I’ve used CIPC and now Jabber (as a softphone) for voice and video calls on my laptop both in the Cisco office and at home with very little issue. </div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Many moons ago in a land called Ohio, I rescued a small agent base from doing this ...<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Aside from the obvious QOS and reliable connection issues; in that client's case the agents would also occasionally want to use the speakerphone function without a headset (PC Speaker / Mic) and without
an HD/noise canceling mic this will usually inject audio artifacts from the speaker into the audio stream. The net effect is duplicated/mis understood DTMF (when using rtp-nte).<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">If this is unavoidable though, and your client is going to travel this path despite all your warnings otherwise; I would recommend the agent's PC on a separate SSID / Interface from the Corporate SSID
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<span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">If the client is looking at this as a telecommute option for employees, the issues are further exacerbated by the nature of having heterogeneous wireless connectivity (unless the business standardizes
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">How about Jabber? Is Jabber stable enough even though it does not support multiple lines? My thought would be no based on the same reason for CIPC.</span><span style="" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<b class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>cisco-voip [<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On
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<span style="" class="">This is a terrible idea. CIPC not stable enough on wireless. Introduce VPN and this is a disaster waiting to happen.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="" class="">Does anyone have any experiences running CIPC on wireless for UCCE agents? It sounds like a...um, bad idea to me. One of my customers is moving to this "design."<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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