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<div id="AppleMailSignature">You hit the proverbial nail. I spec'ed out replacing our PRIs with SIP with dedicated layer 3 service and it was double, not including one time fees. </div>
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<div id="AppleMailSignature">Plus, with all the issues with fax service, we'd end up keeping a couple of PRIs anyways more than likely. </div>
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<div id="AppleMailSignature">Now, if we were to get SIP service from our isp, then that might work. But I'd like to get a longer term contract. Deal with porting numbers can be a pain. </div>
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On Sep 13, 2016, at 11:31 AM, Matt Slaga (AM) <<a href="mailto:matt.slaga@dimensiondata.com">matt.slaga@dimensiondata.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I think it depends on quality guarantee versus cost. For call centers (like Clifford points out), quality would usually be of upmost importance. But for general usage or
college campus environment, maybe quality is not of upmost importance and cellular-like quality is more than acceptable.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Or, in some cases, the internet provider may also be the ITSP/SIP provider which may provide QoS control as the traffic would never leave their network.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I’ve also seen where a customer’s WAN carrier also provided the SIP trunks over their existing MPLS network. It usually requires a slight increase for BW on links, but the
trunks and local loop charges are already being paid thereby drastically reducing the costs associated with a dedicated L3 circuit just for SIP traffic.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">It’s always a good idea to understand the full cost of the service rather than focus on ‘per minute’ charges. I’ve seen several customers that assume SIP equals lower costs
only to find out that dedicated L3 trunks can cost more than a couple PRI lines they are replacing.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Anyways, my 2 cents.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Lelio Fulgenzi [<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>]
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<b>To:</b> Matt Slaga (AM) <<a href="mailto:matt.slaga@dimensiondata.com">matt.slaga@dimensiondata.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Clifford McGlamry <<a href="mailto:cmcglamry@forsythe.com">cmcglamry@forsythe.com</a>>; John Huston <<a href="mailto:fentonguy2003@yahoo.com">fentonguy2003@yahoo.com</a>>; Cisco VoIP Group <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] List of SIP Internet Providers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">One question I have is whether people use SIP providers over their regular internet connection or do the get a SIP provider who provides layer 3 to the site?<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Sep 12, 2016, at 2:51 PM, Matt Slaga (AM) <<a href="mailto:matt.slaga@dimensiondata.com">matt.slaga@dimensiondata.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Intelepeer</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Nextiva</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><a href="http://sip.us">Sip.us</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Etherspeak</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Megapath</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">GoTrunk</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Broadvox</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Many others</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><a href="http://www.whichvoip.com/lp/top-business-sip-providers.htm?utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=sip%20trunk%20provider&utm_content=STP&utm_campaign=WhichVoIP%20SIP:SIP%20Trunking">http://www.whichvoip.com/lp/top-business-sip-providers.htm?utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=sip%20trunk%20provider&utm_content=STP&utm_campaign=WhichVoIP%20SIP:SIP%20Trunking</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> cisco-voip [<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 12, 2016 11:07 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> John Huston <<a href="mailto:fentonguy2003@yahoo.com">fentonguy2003@yahoo.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Cisco VoIP Group <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] List of SIP Internet Providers</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I’ve been using voip.ms for some time. They do a pretty good job.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> cisco-voip [<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>John Huston via cisco-voip<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 12, 2016 10:55 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Cisco Voip<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [cisco-voip] List of SIP Internet Providers</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">I have been asked to look at moving our SIP trunks so they over the Internet. An example of a company that does this in the US is
<a href="http://bandwidth.com">bandwidth.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">I am writing to find out if there is a list of other companies such as Bandwidth and if so where I could find it. I have googled this
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