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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Cheers Ryan,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">In the mean time I got the Nortel to change to Master which has resolved my issue.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">But just so I’m clear for the future. The E1 module I have is a NIM-2MF-T1E1-E1 and to only be used for voice. Am I right in saying the 4331 can
never be master in this scenario?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Ryan Huff [mailto:ryanhuff@outlook.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> 05 October 2016 12:07<br>
<b>To:</b> Russell Chaseling <rchaseling@plannet21.ie><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Brian V <bvanbens@gmail.com>; NateCCIE <nateccie@gmail.com>; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] ISR 4431 - Need to configure "clock source internal" on PRI interface , get error<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Check out step 7 under the, "configuring the t1/e1 network interface module for data support" at <a href="http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/routers/access/interfaces/NIM/software/configuration/guide/4gen-t1-e1-nim-guide.html#con_1128175">http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/routers/access/interfaces/NIM/software/configuration/guide/4gen-t1-e1-nim-guide.html#con_1128175</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="kwd"><b><span style="border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm">"<i>clock</i></span></b></span><span class="synph"><i><span style="border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm"> </span></i></span><span class="kwd"><b><i><span style="border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm">source</span></i></b></span><span class="synph"><i><span style="border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm"> </span></i></span><i>{<span class="kwd"><b><span style="border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm">internal</span></b></span><span class="synph"><span style="border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm"> </span></span>| <span class="kwd"><b><span style="border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm">line</span></b></span><span class="synph"><span style="border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm"> </span></span>[<span class="kwd"><b><span style="border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm">primary</span></b></span> | <span class="kwd"><b><span style="border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm">secondary</span></b></span>]<span class="kwd"><b><span style="border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm"> | network</span></b></span><span class="synph"><span style="border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm">} </span></span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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<i><span style="font-family:"UICTFontTextStyleBody",serif">Specifies the clock source. The options are as follows:</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><i>internal—Sets the controller framer as the clock master.</i><o:p></o:p></p>
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<i><span style="font-family:"UICTFontTextStyleBody",serif">The <span class="kwd"><b><span style="border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm">clock</span></b></span><span class="synph"><span style="border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm"> <b>source internal</b></span></span> command
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data) command.</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:14.4pt"><i><span style="font-family:"UICTFontTextStyleBody",serif;color:black">The <span class="kwd"><b><span style="border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm">pri-group</span></b></span>command is supported on the NIM-xCE1T1-PRI
for data without the keyword <span class="kwd"><b><span style="border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm">voice-dsp</span></b></span>."</span></i><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#525252"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hope this helps,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">-Ryan<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Oct 5, 2016, at 6:49 AM, Russell Chaseling <<a href="mailto:rchaseling@plannet21.ie">rchaseling@plannet21.ie</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hi Ryan,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I take it channel-group for data only? Sorry never used it before</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Thx</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Ryan Huff [</span><a href="mailto:ryanhuff@outlook.com"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">mailto:ryanhuff@outlook.com</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">]
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<b>Sent:</b> 05 October 2016 11:45<br>
<b>To:</b> Russell Chaseling <</span><a href="mailto:rchaseling@plannet21.ie"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">rchaseling@plannet21.ie</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Brian V <</span><a href="mailto:bvanbens@gmail.com"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">bvanbens@gmail.com</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">>; NateCCIE
<</span><a href="mailto:nateccie@gmail.com"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">nateccie@gmail.com</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">>;
</span><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] ISR 4431 - Need to configure "clock source internal" on PRI interface , get error</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Russell,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If you are trying to setup a B2B, you have to use the channel-group command instead of pri-group.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Clock source internal is only supported when using channel-group.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Oct 5, 2016, at 6:24 AM, Russell Chaseling <<a href="mailto:rchaseling@plannet21.ie">rchaseling@plannet21.ie</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hi,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Did you ever get to the bottom of this?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I’m having same issue trying to be the Master on a 4331 integrating with a Nortel Cs1000</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Thanks</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Russell</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> cisco-voip [</span><a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Brian V<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 28 October 2015 01:46<br>
<b>To:</b> NateCCIE <</span><a href="mailto:nateccie@gmail.com"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">nateccie@gmail.com</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">><br>
<b>Cc:</b> </span><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] ISR 4431 - Need to configure "clock source internal" on PRI interface , get error</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I've opened a TAC case on it. I'll report back what I find out.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 8:43 PM, NateCCIE <<a href="mailto:nateccie@gmail.com" target="_blank">nateccie@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Ryan,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This doc and sample config seems to only show how to do normal user side & network clocking.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">When doing network side isdn to a pbx, you have to provide them the clock, I like Brian have not figured out that part of the 4K voodoo. <o:p></o:p></p>
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Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Oct 27, 2015, at 7:23 PM, Ryan Huff <<a href="mailto:ryanhuff@outlook.com" target="_blank">ryanhuff@outlook.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Brian,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">You'll essentially be doing the same thing as you would have in the ISRG2 but as you've discovered, the syntax has changed a bit in the 4k's. I've included the relevant portion
of a t1 config on a 4k in my lab below. Here is the link for 4th gen NIM t1 configurations (I'd suggest a good read here, a lot of syntax has changed that might leave you scratching your head): </span><a href="http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/routers/access/interfaces/NIM/software/configuration/guide/ConfT1E1NIM.html" target="_blank" title="Ctrl+Click or tap to follow the link"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/routers/access/interfaces/NIM/software/configuration/guide/ConfT1E1NIM.html</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Hope This Helps,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Ryan</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">|----- CONFIG SAMPLE -----|</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="background:white"><i><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">card type t1 0 2<br>
!</span></i><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><br>
<i>isdn switch-type primary-ni<br>
!<br>
network-clock synchronization automatic<br>
network-clock synchronization participate 0/2<br>
!<br>
voice-card 0/2<br>
dsp services dspfarm<br>
!<br>
controller T1 0/2/0<br>
framing esf<br>
linecode b8zs<br>
!<br>
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clock source line primary<br>
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network-clock input-source 1 controller t1 0/2/0<br>
cablelength long 0db<br>
pri-group timeslots 1-24 voice-dsp<br>
!<br>
interface Serial0/2/0:23<br>
encapsulation hdlc<br>
isdn switch-type primary-ni<br>
no cdp enable</i></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="background:white"><i><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">|----- CONFIG SAMPLE -----|</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> cisco-voip <</span><a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">>
on behalf of Brian V <</span><a href="mailto:bvanbens@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">bvanbens@gmail.com</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 27, 2015 8:42 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> [cisco-voip] ISR 4431 - Need to configure "clock source internal" on PRI interface , get error</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">I have a ISR 4331 that I'm configuring for voice PRI support.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Performing an integration with a Nortel PBX (back to back PRI) where i need to be the clock source on the underlying T1
circuit.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">In the past on ISR G2 platforms (like a 2921), I could configure "clock source internal" under the controller T1 interface.
On the 4331 I get the following error when the clock source it set to internal under the controller T1</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">TIV-4331-01-TEMP(config-controller)#pri-group timeslots 1-24
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black">%Cannot create ds0/tdm/pri-group with clock source internal</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black">%pri-group voice-dsp cannot be created under the clock source configuration</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">How do I accomplish the same on this newer platform or is it no longer possible ?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">The NIM does have it's own DSP resources.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">I can get the integration up and working, with the default "clock source line", but I get slips on the t1 as the Nortel
side is free running and looking to the line as a clock source on its end.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">I hope I'm just missing something obvious.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Thanks</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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