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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">This is the other caveat that I found (with respect to the Windows Registry).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The Group Policy guys said they had some different experiences with Windows 7 and Windows 10.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Set the Registry key as follows:
<span style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\QoS\Do not use NLA = 1<o:p></o:p></span></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Set the Windows Policy Based QoS per below:<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span lang="EN-US">– Cisco Jabber Group Policy Settings</span></span></i><i><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Post change, the capture should look like the output shown below:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">From: </span>
</b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio@uoguelph.ca><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, 11 January 2017 at 6:55 am<br>
<b>To: </b>Anthony Holloway <avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com>, Ben Amick <bamick@HumanArc.com>, Dana Tong <dana.tong@yellit.com.au>, Tom Sparks <tsparks@taosconsulting.com>, "cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [cisco-voip] Jabber/CIPC and QoS<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">Super. Thanks for this information.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">Looks like any sort of QoS implementation is going to include a number of SME/Service Owners. Luckily we have a fairly good centralized system here. Unfortunately, not everyone is a managed desktop client, so
I'm not sure we can do those group policies for everyone. But it's something we'll have to consider. Maybe in phase II or III.
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 10, 2017 3:33 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Lelio Fulgenzi; Ben Amick; Dana Tong; Tom Sparks; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Jabber/CIPC and QoS</span><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">"If you want to set DSCP bits based on protocols after they leave the application (but before they make it onto the wire), use the ipfw program to setup the bits based on ports, sources, destinations
and even ingress or egress. "man ipfw" for more help."<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">Source: <a href="https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/macenterprise/8rELMIDb9WQ" target="_blank">QoS on MacOS X</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">However, <a href="https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6645172?start=0&tstart=0" target="_blank">
this discussion</a> suggests IPFW is gone since Yosemite, and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PF_(firewall)" target="_blank">
PF</a> is now what's used.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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on behalf of Anthony Holloway <<a href="mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 10, 2017 2:01 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ben Amick; Dana Tong; Tom Sparks; <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Jabber/CIPC and QoS</span><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">1) You get to know exactly, and somewhat succinctly which ports will be used by Jabber for RTP (cause you already know what it is for signaling 5060). This one isn't all that great, but if
you're going to write an ACL, then it's nice to write 3000 39999, versus 16384 32768. Preference I guess.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">2) This one is the real winner. You get to separate your voice from your video traffic, into two different port ranges, allowing you to mark audio at EF and video at AF42, or something else.
This way you can have video deteriorate by audio survive. The Sync no longer relies on same classification/marking, that's what RTCP is doing for you nowadays.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">At the end of the day, the Group Policy allows you to deny programs from hijacking your markings as they leave the PC. Therefore, the switch would only ever receive trusted DSCP markings.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">"For later operating systems such as Microsoft Windows 7, Microsoft implements a security feature that prevents applications from setting DSCP values on IP packet headers. For this reason, you
should use an alternate method for marking DSCP values, such as Microsoft Group Policy."<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">Source: <a href="http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/jabber/11_5/CJAB_BK_D00D8CBD_00_deployment-installation-guide-cisco-jabber115/CJAB_BK_D00D8CBD_00_deployment-installation-guide-cisco-jabber115_chapter_010001.html" target="_blank">
Jabber On-Prem Deployment Guide</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 10:18 AM Ben Amick <<a href="mailto:bamick@humanarc.com" target="_blank">bamick@humanarc.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">So if I understand you right, you used the SIP profile to set the ranges, GPO to mark the DSCPs,
and the switches to trust DSCP.</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">I assume this means you used access lists to only accept the marking if from that port range?
If not, why did you set the port ranges and how are you mitigating the risk of other programs hijacking your QoS?</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span class="gmailmsg1"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Times;color:#3B3838">Ben Amick</span></b></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Times;color:#3B3838">Telecom Analyst</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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cisco-voip [mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dana Tong</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black"><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1"><b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 09, 2017 11:29 PM</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1"><b>To:</b> Tom Sparks <<a href="mailto:tsparks@taosconsulting.com" target="_blank">tsparks@taosconsulting.com</a>>;
<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span class="gmailmsg1"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Jabber/CIPC and QoS</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">FYI,</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">I’ve been working with a customer recently where we have utilised both the SIP Profile on
CUCM to specify port ranges for voice /video and AD Group Policy to mark the traffic.
</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">There are a few caveats to getting this working. It requires both a Windows registry value
turned on, and some settings in the Windows QoS policy.</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">They had a mix of different switches. They configured the switches to “Trust DSCP”.</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">Hope this helps.</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">Cheers</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">Dana</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></b></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">cisco-voip <</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:Calibri">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">>
on behalf of Tom Sparks <</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:tsparks@taosconsulting.com" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:Calibri">tsparks@taosconsulting.com</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">></span></span><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black"><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1"><b>Date: </b>Thursday, 5 January 2017 at 11:31 am</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1"><b>To: </b>"</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:Calibri">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">"
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<span class="gmailmsg1"><b>Subject: </b>Re: [cisco-voip] Jabber/CIPC and QoS</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="color:black">Here's a seemingly good blog on the whole topic also </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">Today's Topics:</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1"> 1. Re: CUCM Patch Insight (NateCCIE)</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1"> 2. Jabber/CIPC and QoS (Ben Amick)</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1"> 3. Re: Jabber/CIPC and QoS (Lelio Fulgenzi)</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1"> 4. Re: Jabber/CIPC and QoS (Ben Amick)</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1"> 5. Re: Jabber/CIPC and QoS (Hodgeman, Samuel)</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1"> 6. Re: Jabber/CIPC and QoS (NateCCIE)</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1"> 7. Re: Jabber/CIPC and QoS (Ryan Huff)</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1"> 8. LiveData enhancements in UCCX 11.0 and 11.5</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1"> (Abhiram Kramadhati (akramadh))</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1"> 9. Re: Jabber/CIPC and QoS (Ben Amick)</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1"> 10. Re: Jabber/CIPC and QoS (Ryan Huff)</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1"> 11. Re: Jabber/CIPC and QoS (Ben Amick)</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1"> 12. Re: Jabber/CIPC and QoS (Ryan Huff)</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1"> 13. Re: Jabber/CIPC and QoS (Evgeny Izetov)</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1"> 14. 7921g-w-k9 -> 7921g-a-k9 (Tim Warnock)</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1"> 15. Re: Jabber/CIPC and QoS (Ben Amick)</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1"> 16. Re: Jabber/CIPC and QoS (Lelio Fulgenzi)</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1"> 17. Re: Jabber/CIPC and QoS (Ryan Huff)</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1"> 18. Re: 7921g-w-k9 -> 7921g-a-k9 (Ben Amick)</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">Message: 1</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2017 10:33:39 -0700</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">From: NateCCIE <</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:nateccie@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB">nateccie@gmail.com</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="color:black">></span></span><span style="color:black"><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">To: "'Jeffrey McHugh'" <</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:jmchugh@fidelus.com" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB">jmchugh@fidelus.com</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="color:black">>,
"'Tim Franklin'"</span></span><span style="color:black"><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1"> <</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:tim@tripplehelix.net" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB">tim@tripplehelix.net</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="color:black">>,
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<span class="gmailmsg1">Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM Patch Insight</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">I would wait for SU2 at this point. It will be soon.</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">From: cisco-voip [mailto:</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="color:black">]
On Behalf Of Jeffrey McHugh</span></span><span style="color:black"><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 8:53 AM</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">To: Tim Franklin <</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:tim@tripplehelix.net" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB">tim@tripplehelix.net</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="color:black">>;
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<span class="gmailmsg1">Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM Patch Insight</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">Just did an SU1 upgrade, no issues reported but look into bug CSCux90747 depending on your esxi versions</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">I would expect SU2 soon as its named in the Expressway 8.9 release notes for some MRA feature preview</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">From: cisco-voip [mailto:</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="color:black">]
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<span class="gmailmsg1">Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 10:44 AM</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">To: </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="color:black">
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<span class="gmailmsg1">Subject: [cisco-voip] CUCM Patch Insight</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">Just curious if anyone on this list has any feedback as to the stability of CUCM 11.5(1)SU1. I'm planning my upgrades out and I'm a bit leery to deploy it given that it's been out since November. While that speaks to no large defects
to cause a deferral notice I'm also wondering if another SU is on the horizon?</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">Thanks</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">Jeffrey McHugh | Sr. Collaboration Consulting Engineer | VCP-DCV, CCNP Collaboration</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">Message: 2</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2017 21:25:20 +0000</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">From: Ben Amick <</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:bamick@HumanArc.com" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB">bamick@HumanArc.com</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="color:black">></span></span><span style="color:black"><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">To: Cisco VoIP Group <</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="color:black">></span></span><span style="color:black"><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">Subject: [cisco-voip] Jabber/CIPC and QoS</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">Message-ID:</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1"> <</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:820C24BFE55F434C97807C60D4647ACE0F9D3DBB@E2k10-MB-HT1.humanarc.com" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB">820C24BFE55F434C97807C60D4647ACE0F9D3DBB@E2k10-MB-HT1.humanarc.com</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="color:black">></span></span><span style="color:black"><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">So, I know this is an age old question that's debated, but I've been wondering if anyone here has a perspective here in regards to QoS for softphones. Obviously, with hardphones, you usually partition a separate VLAN with AutoQoS/DSCP
tags, but that isn't applicable with softphones.</span><br>
<br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">I've heard of three different options in the past, neither of which seem to be very simple to deploy, but all seem to be Jabber-centric.</span><br>
<br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">1. Configuring windows to perform DSCP tagging, and do DSCP QoS on the switches they are connected to, as well as trusting the device. Problems: Requires users to be local admins, openings for abuse and network impact due to blind
PC trust.</span><br>
<br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">2. Configuring your switches with an access list that recognizes the ports Jabber does outbound to attach DSCP tags to them. Problems: Other programs could theoretically use those ports</span><br>
<br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">3. Installing Medianet services on all jabber clients; Configure all switches for medianet tagging. Problem: (I think?) Requires newer switches to use, maybe needs an additional server (I vaguely remember possibly needing prime
collab?)?</span><br>
<br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">Maybe I'm missing some things, but what approach have you guys taken for softphone/Jabber QoS? And on top of that, what options are there for CIPC (I know there's the auto qos trust cisco-softphone for cisco switches, but I don't believe
there's a solution other than #1 for non-cisco switches)?</span><br>
<br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">Ben Amick</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">Telecom Analyst</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">Message: 3</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2017 21:35:41 +0000</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">From: Lelio Fulgenzi <</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB">lelio@uoguelph.ca</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="color:black">></span></span><span style="color:black"><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">To: Ben Amick <</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:bamick@HumanArc.com" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB">bamick@HumanArc.com</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="color:black">>,
Cisco VoIP Group</span></span><span style="color:black"><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1"> <</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="color:black">></span></span><span style="color:black"><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Jabber/CIPC and QoS</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">Message-ID:</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1"> <</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:YTOPR01MB0251F94A8E59508021DD7D21AC6E0@YTOPR01MB0251.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB">YTOPR01MB0251F94A8E59508021DD7D21AC6E0@YTOPR01MB0251.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="color:black">></span></span><span style="color:black"><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">good question Ben. i look forward to reading this thread.</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">i've been meaning to read up on mediaNet, and it seems it's more required than not, especially for QoS.</span><br>
<br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">are you suggesting (with option 3) that there is software you can install on desktops? what about mobile devices?</span><br>
<br>
<br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">QoS, both wired and wireless, will definitely be an interesting challenge.</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">Computing and Communications Services (CCS)</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">University of Guelph</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">________________________________</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">From: cisco-voip <</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="color:black">>
on behalf of Ben Amick <</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:bamick@HumanArc.com" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB">bamick@HumanArc.com</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="color:black">></span></span><span style="color:black"><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 4:25 PM</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">To: Cisco VoIP Group</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">Subject: [cisco-voip] Jabber/CIPC and QoS</span><br>
<br>
<br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">So, I know this is an age old question that's debated, but I've been wondering if anyone here has a perspective here in regards to QoS for softphones. Obviously, with hardphones, you usually partition a separate VLAN with AutoQoS/DSCP
tags, but that isn't applicable with softphones.</span><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">I've heard of three different options in the past, neither of which seem to be very simple to deploy, but all seem to be Jabber-centric.</span><br>
<br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">1. Configuring windows to perform DSCP tagging, and do DSCP QoS on the switches they are connected to, as well as trusting the device. Problems: Requires users to be local admins, openings for abuse and network impact due to blind
PC trust.</span><br>
<br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">2. Configuring your switches with an access list that recognizes the ports Jabber does outbound to attach DSCP tags to them. Problems: Other programs could theoretically use those ports</span><br>
<br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">3. Installing Medianet services on all jabber clients; Configure all switches for medianet tagging. Problem: (I think?) Requires newer switches to use, maybe needs an additional server (I vaguely remember possibly needing prime
collab?)?</span><br>
<br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">Maybe I'm missing some things, but what approach have you guys taken for softphone/Jabber QoS? And on top of that, what options are there for CIPC (I know there's the auto qos trust cisco-softphone for cisco switches, but I don't believe
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<span class="gmailmsg1">Message: 4</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2017 22:02:42 +0000</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">From: Ben Amick <</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:bamick@HumanArc.com" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB">bamick@HumanArc.com</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="color:black">></span></span><span style="color:black"><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">To: Lelio Fulgenzi <</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB">lelio@uoguelph.ca</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="color:black">>,
Cisco VoIP Group</span></span><span style="color:black"><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Jabber/CIPC and QoS</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1"> <</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:820C24BFE55F434C97807C60D4647ACE0F9D3E0F@E2k10-MB-HT1.humanarc.com" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB">820C24BFE55F434C97807C60D4647ACE0F9D3E0F@E2k10-MB-HT1.humanarc.com</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="color:black">></span></span><span style="color:black"><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">From what I understand, it's not so much as "software" as it is a plugin for jabber that enables Jabber to send the medianet signaling. I don't believe it's a function of iOS/android Jabber though, but I could be mistaken</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">Ben Amick</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">Telecom Analyst</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">From: Lelio Fulgenzi [mailto:</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB">lelio@uoguelph.ca</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="color:black">]</span></span><span style="color:black"><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 4:36 PM</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">To: Ben Amick <</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:bamick@HumanArc.com" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB">bamick@HumanArc.com</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="color:black">>;
Cisco VoIP Group <</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="color:black">></span></span><span style="color:black"><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">Subject: Re: Jabber/CIPC and QoS</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">good question Ben. i look forward to reading this thread.</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">i've been meaning to read up on mediaNet, and it seems it's more required than not, especially for QoS.</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">are you suggesting (with option 3) that there is software you can install on desktops? what about mobile devices?</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">QoS, both wired and wireless, will definitely be an interesting challenge.</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">Computing and Communications Services (CCS)</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">University of Guelph</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">________________________________</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">From: cisco-voip <</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="color:black"><mailto:</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="color:black">>>
on behalf of Ben Amick <bamick@HumanArc.com<mailto:</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:bamick@HumanArc.com" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB">bamick@HumanArc.com</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="color:black">>></span></span><span style="color:black"><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 4:25 PM</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">To: Cisco VoIP Group</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">Subject: [cisco-voip] Jabber/CIPC and QoS</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">So, I know this is an age old question that's debated, but I've been wondering if anyone here has a perspective here in regards to QoS for softphones. Obviously, with hardphones, you usually partition a separate VLAN with AutoQoS/DSCP
tags, but that isn't applicable with softphones.</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">I've heard of three different options in the past, neither of which seem to be very simple to deploy, but all seem to be Jabber-centric.</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">1. Configuring windows to perform DSCP tagging, and do DSCP QoS on the switches they are connected to, as well as trusting the device. Problems: Requires users to be local admins, openings for abuse and network impact due to blind
PC trust.</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">2. Configuring your switches with an access list that recognizes the ports Jabber does outbound to attach DSCP tags to them. Problems: Other programs could theoretically use those ports</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">3. Installing Medianet services on all jabber clients; Configure all switches for medianet tagging. Problem: (I think?) Requires newer switches to use, maybe needs an additional server (I vaguely remember possibly needing prime
collab?)?</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">Maybe I'm missing some things, but what approach have you guys taken for softphone/Jabber QoS? And on top of that, what options are there for CIPC (I know there's the auto qos trust cisco-softphone for cisco switches, but I don't believe
there's a solution other than #1 for non-cisco switches)?</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">Ben Amick</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">Telecom Analyst</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">Message: 5</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2017 22:13:15 +0000</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">From: "Hodgeman, Samuel" <</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:shodgeman@xo.com" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB">shodgeman@xo.com</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="color:black">></span></span><span style="color:black"><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">To: Ben Amick <</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:bamick@HumanArc.com" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB">bamick@HumanArc.com</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="color:black">>,
Cisco VoIP Group</span></span><span style="color:black"><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Jabber/CIPC and QoS</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1"> <</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:94004f6f0f8646e7a51539636329908b@TXPLANEXCH101.corp.inthosts.net" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB">94004f6f0f8646e7a51539636329908b@TXPLANEXCH101.corp.inthosts.net</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="color:black">></span></span><span style="color:black"><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">For option 1, using Windows... this can be implemented with Group Policies, taking it out of the hands of end users, and can be associated with specific application executable and/or specific IP address source/destination.</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">- Sam H</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">From: cisco-voip [mailto:</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="color:black">]
On Behalf Of Ben Amick</span></span><span style="color:black"><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 3:25 PM</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">To: Cisco VoIP Group <</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="color:black">></span></span><span style="color:black"><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">Subject: [cisco-voip] Jabber/CIPC and QoS</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">So, I know this is an age old question that's debated, but I've been wondering if anyone here has a perspective here in regards to QoS for softphones. Obviously, with hardphones, you usually partition a separate VLAN with AutoQoS/DSCP
tags, but that isn't applicable with softphones.</span><br>
<br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">I've heard of three different options in the past, neither of which seem to be very simple to deploy, but all seem to be Jabber-centric.</span><br>
<br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">1. Configuring windows to perform DSCP tagging, and do DSCP QoS on the switches they are connected to, as well as trusting the device. Problems: Requires users to be local admins, openings for abuse and network impact due to blind
PC trust.</span><br>
<br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">2. Configuring your switches with an access list that recognizes the ports Jabber does outbound to attach DSCP tags to them. Problems: Other programs could theoretically use those ports</span><br>
<br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">3. Installing Medianet services on all jabber clients; Configure all switches for medianet tagging. Problem: (I think?) Requires newer switches to use, maybe needs an additional server (I vaguely remember possibly needing prime
collab?)?</span><br>
<br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">Maybe I'm missing some things, but what approach have you guys taken for softphone/Jabber QoS? And on top of that, what options are there for CIPC (I know there's the auto qos trust cisco-softphone for cisco switches, but I don't believe
there's a solution other than #1 for non-cisco switches)?</span><br>
<br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">Ben Amick</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">Telecom Analyst</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2017 17:53:14 -0700</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">From: NateCCIE <</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:nateccie@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB">nateccie@gmail.com</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="color:black">></span></span><span style="color:black"><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">To: Ben Amick <</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:bamick@HumanArc.com" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB">bamick@HumanArc.com</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="color:black">></span></span><span style="color:black"><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">Cc: Cisco VoIP Group <</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="color:black">></span></span><span style="color:black"><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Jabber/CIPC and QoS</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">Message-ID: <</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:05C8F1E2-B3DA-435C-BAB4-3C8278A0A726@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB">05C8F1E2-B3DA-435C-BAB4-3C8278A0A726@gmail.com</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="color:black">></span></span><span style="color:black"><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">Or take the most approach of do nothing.</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">My personal favorite is to use codecs where QoS matters less, like iLBC, OPUS, etc.</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">So many business are getting rid of the QoS capable WAN and just doing VPNs, even if they have fancy names that make it sound better than public internet.</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">> On Jan 3, 2017, at 2:25 PM, Ben Amick <</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:bamick@HumanArc.com" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB">bamick@HumanArc.com</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="color:black">>
wrote:</span></span><span style="color:black"><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">> So, I know this is an age old question that?s debated, but I?ve been wondering if anyone here has a perspective here in regards to QoS for softphones. Obviously, with hardphones, you usually partition a separate VLAN with AutoQoS/DSCP
tags, but that isn?t applicable with softphones.</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">></span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">> I?ve heard of three different options in the past, neither of which seem to be very simple to deploy, but all seem to be Jabber-centric.</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">> 1. Configuring windows to perform DSCP tagging, and do DSCP QoS on the switches they are connected to, as well as trusting the device. Problems: Requires users to be local admins, openings for abuse and network impact due to blind
PC trust.</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">> 2. Configuring your switches with an access list that recognizes the ports Jabber does outbound to attach DSCP tags to them. Problems: Other programs could theoretically use those ports</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">> 3. Installing Medianet services on all jabber clients; Configure all switches for medianet tagging. Problem: (I think?) Requires newer switches to use, maybe needs an additional server (I vaguely remember possibly needing prime
collab?)?</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">> Maybe I?m missing some things, but what approach have you guys taken for softphone/Jabber QoS? And on top of that, what options are there for CIPC (I know there?s the auto qos trust cisco-softphone for cisco switches, but I don?t believe
there?s a solution other than #1 for non-cisco switches)?</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2017 01:39:30 +0000</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">From: Ryan Huff <</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:ryanhuff@outlook.com" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB">ryanhuff@outlook.com</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="color:black">></span></span><span style="color:black"><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">To: NateCCIE <</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:nateccie@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB">nateccie@gmail.com</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="color:black">></span></span><span style="color:black"><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">Cc: Ben Amick <</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:bamick@HumanArc.com" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB">bamick@HumanArc.com</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="color:black">>,
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<span class="gmailmsg1">Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Jabber/CIPC and QoS</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1"> <</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:BLUPR18MB0482767CF5DE727DDEE526FEC5610@BLUPR18MB0482.namprd18.prod.outlook.com" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB">BLUPR18MB0482767CF5DE727DDEE526FEC5610@BLUPR18MB0482.namprd18.prod.outlook.com</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="color:black">></span></span><span style="color:black"><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">It's a shame really ... MPLS is far superior IMO, for many reasons. Call it iWAN, DMVPN, AutoVPN .... whatever, it is still as Nate says, public Internet.</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">Try getting a 30 or 60 minute SLA with escalation after 15 minutes from a public Comcast or Time Warner/Charter package.</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">On Jan 3, 2017, at 7:53 PM, NateCCIE <</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:nateccie@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB">nateccie@gmail.com</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="color:black"><mailto:</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:nateccie@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB">nateccie@gmail.com</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="color:black">>>
wrote:</span></span><span style="color:black"><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">Or take the most approach of do nothing.</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">My personal favorite is to use codecs where QoS matters less, like iLBC, OPUS, etc.</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">So many business are getting rid of the QoS capable WAN and just doing VPNs, even if they have fancy names that make it sound better than public internet.</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">Sent from my iPhone</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">On Jan 3, 2017, at 2:25 PM, Ben Amick <bamick@HumanArc.com<mailto:</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:bamick@HumanArc.com" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB">bamick@HumanArc.com</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="color:black">>>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">So, I know this is an age old question that's debated, but I've been wondering if anyone here has a perspective here in regards to QoS for softphones. Obviously, with hardphones, you usually partition a separate VLAN with AutoQoS/DSCP
tags, but that isn't applicable with softphones.</span><br>
<br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">I've heard of three different options in the past, neither of which seem to be very simple to deploy, but all seem to be Jabber-centric.</span><br>
<br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">1. Configuring windows to perform DSCP tagging, and do DSCP QoS on the switches they are connected to, as well as trusting the device. Problems: Requires users to be local admins, openings for abuse and network impact due to blind
PC trust.</span><br>
<br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">2. Configuring your switches with an access list that recognizes the ports Jabber does outbound to attach DSCP tags to them. Problems: Other programs could theoretically use those ports</span><br>
<br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">3. Installing Medianet services on all jabber clients; Configure all switches for medianet tagging. Problem: (I think?) Requires newer switches to use, maybe needs an additional server (I vaguely remember possibly needing prime
collab?)?</span><br>
<br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">Maybe I'm missing some things, but what approach have you guys taken for softphone/Jabber QoS? And on top of that, what options are there for CIPC (I know there's the auto qos trust cisco-softphone for cisco switches, but I don't believe
there's a solution other than #1 for non-cisco switches)?</span><br>
<br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">Ben Amick</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">Telecom Analyst</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2017 01:48:30 +0000</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">From: "Abhiram Kramadhati (akramadh)" <</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:akramadh@cisco.com" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB">akramadh@cisco.com</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="color:black">></span></span><span style="color:black"><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">To: Cisco VoIP Group <</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="color:black">></span></span><span style="color:black"><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">Subject: [cisco-voip] LiveData enhancements in UCCX 11.0 and 11.5</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">Hi all,</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">Happy 2017!</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">We just published a Field Notice about LiveData stabilization enhancements done in 11.0(1)SU1 and 11.5(1)ES1.</span><br>
</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/field-notices/642/fn64240.html" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB">http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/field-notices/642/fn64240.html</span></span></a></span><span style="color:black"><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">So, if you are on 11.0 or 11.5, our recommendation is to move to the above-mentioned releases. You could be running on 11.0/11.5 with no LD issues ? this is just a proactive measure.</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">From: Ben Amick <</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:bamick@HumanArc.com" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB">bamick@HumanArc.com</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="color:black">></span></span><span style="color:black"><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">To: Ryan Huff <</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:ryanhuff@outlook.com" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB">ryanhuff@outlook.com</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="color:black">>,
NateCCIE <</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:nateccie@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB">nateccie@gmail.com</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="color:black">></span></span><span style="color:black"><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">Cc: Cisco VoIP Group <</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="color:black">></span></span><span style="color:black"><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Jabber/CIPC and QoS</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1"> <</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:820C24BFE55F434C97807C60D4647ACE0F9DE054@E2k10-MB-HT1.humanarc.com" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB">820C24BFE55F434C97807C60D4647ACE0F9DE054@E2k10-MB-HT1.humanarc.com</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="color:black">></span></span><span style="color:black"><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">Yeah, I have the luck of having MPLS right now, and I don't see us going iWAN for a while for various reasons. QoS on the WAN right now even isn't my issue, it's QoS on the LAN. Right now we have a relatively flat network, and certain
segments of our troupe *cough*developers*cough* seems to have made our internal traffic ugly, to the point that I may have to do an analysis of it, as we're having just random periods here and there where calls just have horrible quality, of the type you normally
see fixed by QoS</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">Ben Amick</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">Telecom Analyst</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">From: Ryan Huff [mailto:</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:ryanhuff@outlook.com" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB">ryanhuff@outlook.com</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="color:black">]</span></span><span style="color:black"><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 8:40 PM</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">To: NateCCIE <</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:nateccie@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB">nateccie@gmail.com</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="color:black">></span></span><span style="color:black"><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">Cc: Ben Amick <</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:bamick@HumanArc.com" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB">bamick@HumanArc.com</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="color:black">>;
Cisco VoIP Group <</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="color:black">></span></span><span style="color:black"><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Jabber/CIPC and QoS</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">It's a shame really ... MPLS is far superior IMO, for many reasons. Call it iWAN, DMVPN, AutoVPN .... whatever, it is still as Nate says, public Internet.</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">Try getting a 30 or 60 minute SLA with escalation after 15 minutes from a public Comcast or Time Warner/Charter package.</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">On Jan 3, 2017, at 7:53 PM, NateCCIE <</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:nateccie@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB">nateccie@gmail.com</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="color:black"><mailto:</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:nateccie@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB">nateccie@gmail.com</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="color:black">>>
wrote:</span></span><span style="color:black"><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">Or take the most approach of do nothing.</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">My personal favorite is to use codecs where QoS matters less, like iLBC, OPUS, etc.</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">So many business are getting rid of the QoS capable WAN and just doing VPNs, even if they have fancy names that make it sound better than public internet.</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">On Jan 3, 2017, at 2:25 PM, Ben Amick <bamick@HumanArc.com<mailto:</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:bamick@HumanArc.com" target="_blank"><span class="gmailmsg1"><span lang="EN-GB">bamick@HumanArc.com</span></span></a></span><span class="gmailmsg1"><span style="color:black">>>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">So, I know this is an age old question that's debated, but I've been wondering if anyone here has a perspective here in regards to QoS for softphones. Obviously, with hardphones, you usually partition a separate VLAN with AutoQoS/DSCP
tags, but that isn't applicable with softphones.</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">I've heard of three different options in the past, neither of which seem to be very simple to deploy, but all seem to be Jabber-centric.</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">1. Configuring windows to perform DSCP tagging, and do DSCP QoS on the switches they are connected to, as well as trusting the device. Problems: Requires users to be local admins, openings for abuse and network impact due to blind
PC trust.</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">2. Configuring your switches with an access list that recognizes the ports Jabber does outbound to attach DSCP tags to them. Problems: Other programs could theoretically use those ports</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">3. Installing Medianet services on all jabber clients; Configure all switches for medianet tagging. Problem: (I think?) Requires newer switches to use, maybe needs an additional server (I vaguely remember possibly needing prime
collab?)?</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">Maybe I'm missing some things, but what approach have you guys taken for softphone/Jabber QoS? And on top of that, what options are there for CIPC (I know there's the auto qos trust cisco-softphone for cisco switches, but I don't believe
there's a solution other than #1 for non-cisco switches)?</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg1">Ben Amick</span><br>
<span class="gmailmsg1">Telecom Analyst</span><br>
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