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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Cisco 8851 and Bluetooth Speaker<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">I wonder if/how using a USB extension cord would help. So basically having the end device itself high above cubicle partition walls, away from any materials of interference.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> Ben Amick <<a href="mailto:bamick@HumanArc.com">bamick@HumanArc.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 31, 2017 10:53 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Lelio Fulgenzi; Anthony Holloway; Ryan Ratliff (rratliff); Ed Leatherman<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip voyp list; Pawlowski, Adam<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [cisco-voip] Cisco 8851 and Bluetooth Speaker</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">
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<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">This is true of almost any Bluetooth though, not exclusive to the 8800 phones. My old Jabra evolve could go up to halfway through my office on the dongle either in my 9971 or my PC, but directly
paired to my PC it barely went over 3 or 4 cubes down before starting to get choppy. I’m not sure if it’s because of (possibly) internal chipsets being lower powered, the antennae being badly routed (or increasing loss due to length) and/or loss by going through
the casing of the object itself. Either way, it’s always better to use a dedicated adapter, but in the immediate vicinity of your cubicle or a small office, its less of an issue.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 31, 2017 10:31 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Anthony Holloway <<a href="mailto:avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>>; Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) <<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com">rratliff@cisco.com</a>>; Ed Leatherman <<a href="mailto:ealeatherman@gmail.com">ealeatherman@gmail.com</a>><br>
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<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">so you're saying that the bluetooth transceiver built into the 8861 is not as good as the one you plug in?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> cisco-voip <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 31, 2017 10:23 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ryan Ratliff (rratliff); Ed Leatherman<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Cisco 8851 and Bluetooth Speaker</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">
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<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Something to note about the 8861/51 and Bluetooth, is that when I pair my Plantronics Voyager Focus UC directly to my 8861, the quality is not that great. However, if I stick the included Bluetooth
dongle (<a href="http://cp.mcafee.com/d/1jWVIi6wUSyMY-Yess7cCXCQkmnSkNMV4QsCQkmnSkNPPX9J55BZVYsY-Urhhsd79EVLuWdPp3lpmawECSHIdzrBPpdJnor6TbCXSgSVEVuvW_c8FELnhWZOWrbP_e6zBOXXzDkhjmKCHtxDBgY-F6lK1FJ4SMrLRQkNPaqqar1KVI04IvI9NH2lGsLztcmzl1KQY8jsLsTqlblbCqOmbAaJMJZ0kIToHMd9_7wqrhuphhdwLQzh0qmXiFqFsPmiNFtd40BaBGCy1VVZ4Qgr10Qg39XvPHmpcQg32TWl-9JwQsCYJ50GQ_WMd6S">BT600</a>)
into the side of my 8861 first, then pair with the dongle, the quality is pretty great.
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<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">So, for whatever the reason for my experience, the 8861 cannot meet the high quality demands I have, on its own, without the dongle. This might be true for you folks looking to get the 510 as a
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<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 8:47 AM Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) <<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com">rratliff@cisco.com</a>> wrote:</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">We've been using the speak 510's for just this reason and they've worked out OK.. actually started using them with 8945's initially but bluetooth seems to work better on the 8800's, anecdotally.
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<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Has anyone tried to use the Cisco 8851 and a Bluetooth speakerphone as sort of a poor man's conferencing set? The sets themselves sound pretty good on their own, but, something like the Jabra Speak
510 that is Bluetooth enabled would be a more cost effective option than the $900+ 8831 set (which still has an unresolved bug causing the Conf button to randomly fail anyways).<br>
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It is obviously not explicitly called out as supported, but, anyone tried this and had any success? Or, any recommendation on a 3rd party conferencing phone that is more cost effective, even if not as capable, for a smaller (6 - 8 person) conference?<br>
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