<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>Hi, just updating this.<br><br></div>So I was intriged about the mention about PCD Upgrade support so I did the test on my Lab and that worked just fine.<br></div>With that, I also used the same procedure, PCD Upgrade, for the activity and everything went well.<br><br></div>I found a PCD realease that state it is proper for 10.0 upgrade and that's the one I used.<br><br>Description:<b>Prime Collab Deployment (PCD) non-bootable - For upgrade from 10.0(1).<br></b>Release:<b>11.5(2)</b><br>Release Date:<b>09/Jun/2016</b><br>File Name:<b>PCD_UCOS_11.5.2.10000-4.sgn.iso<br><br></b></div>I'll try the normal OS upgrade on lab if I get the time just to see what happens.<b><br></b></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><b><font size="2">Bruno Takahashi da Silva</font></b><font size="2"><br></font><br></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 12:12 PM, Ben Amick <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bamick@humanarc.com" target="_blank">bamick@humanarc.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I’d guess it’s due to something in the database structure that changes with 10.5/11, and that the installer for 11.5 doesn’t accommodate for. Which PCD would be coded to recognize,
but couldn’t be done on the fly by OS Admin. Just my 2c but that’s my thoughts on why.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Schlotterer, Tommy<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 19, 2017 9:05 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> NateCCIE <<a href="mailto:nateccie@gmail.com" target="_blank">nateccie@gmail.com</a>>; 'Gary Bates_Command Solutions' <<a href="mailto:gbates@commandsolutions.com.au" target="_blank">gbates@commandsolutions.com.<wbr>au</a>></span></p><div><div class="h5"><br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM Upgrade 10.0 to 11.5 only via PCD?<u></u><u></u></div></div><p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I apologize, I just checked my notes and my upgrade was 10.5 to 11.5. it is interesting The Cisco is not supporting an upgrade directly from 10.x.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Thanks<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 19, 2017 1:13 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Gary Bates_Command Solutions' <<a href="mailto:gbates@commandsolutions.com.au" target="_blank">gbates@commandsolutions.com.<wbr>au</a>>; Schlotterer, Tommy <<a href="mailto:tschlotterer@presidio.com" target="_blank">tschlotterer@presidio.com</a>><br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM Upgrade 10.0 to 11.5 only via PCD?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The docs are pretty clear no upgrading with or without PCD from 10.0. You can do a PCD
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 18, 2017 4:52 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM Upgrade 10.0 to 11.5 only via PCD?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We recently tried an os admin upgrade to 11.5 but wod not work so we had to go to 11.0 , <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Tommy, how do you do a manual upgrade ?<u></u><u></u></p>
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On 19 Jan 2017, at 6:13 am, Schlotterer, Tommy <<a href="mailto:tschlotterer@presidio.com" target="_blank">tschlotterer@presidio.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Heim, Dennis<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 18, 2017 2:06 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ben Amick <<a href="mailto:bamick@HumanArc.com" target="_blank">bamick@HumanArc.com</a>>; Bruno Takahashi <<a href="mailto:brunots@gmail.com" target="_blank">brunots@gmail.com</a>>;
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM Upgrade 10.0 to 11.5 only via PCD?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Don’t expect PCD to work for the first. Just my experience. It’s just as fickle as CUCM is. What I am saying is just plan accordingly from the time and outage
perspect. Have a plan-B.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ben Amick<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 18, 2017 1:49 PM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#1f497d">Not to 11.5, but I know 10->11 can go fine via standard OS admin, I’ve personally done it. I’d be surprised if it was different to 11.5</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#1f497d">Worst comes to worst, you could do the incremental to 10.5, and then do OS admin to go 10.5->11.5 (or 10->11, then the incremental from 11->11.5)</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Bruno Takahashi<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 18, 2017 1:43 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> [cisco-voip] CUCM Upgrade 10.0 to 11.5 only via PCD?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Looking at the upgrade docs for 11.5 @
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">It states that upgrades from 10.0.x to 11.5 are only supported via PCD upgrade.<u></u><u></u></p>
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