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C) does consume a RMS license.<br>
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On Feb 28, 2017, at 4:41 PM, Brian Meade <<a href="mailto:bmeade90@vt.edu">bmeade90@vt.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Yea, CMR is included with WebEx if you do annual subscription I believe. Also they changed licensing in Expressway so that CMR calls do not use RMS licensing. So now you only need RMS licensing for B2B calls. SMP and PMP licensing are now
coming with RMS licensing so not many people will be ordering RMS individually.</div>
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<div>Oh, cool. I never saw that change announced. So they did away with licensing for MRA and CMR, so RMS licensing is essentially just for B2B video calls again?<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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On Feb 28, 2017, at 2:18 PM, Brian Meade <<a href="mailto:bmeade90@vt.edu" target="_blank">bmeade90@vt.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">MRA is Mobile and Remote Access – a fancy word for a procedure that enables Jabber and other specific phones to be used remotely without a VPN by tunneling through the Expressway
product, requiring separate licensing. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#3b3838">Ben Amick<u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
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<b>To:</b> Brian Meade <<a href="mailto:bmeade90@vt.edu" target="_blank">bmeade90@vt.edu</a>>; Ben Amick <<a href="mailto:bamick@HumanArc.com" target="_blank">bamick@HumanArc.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Cisco VOIP <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [cisco-voip] Curiosity: New IP Communicator<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Okay, so, I’ve been until recently a CME admin, now I’m doing CUCM, so…. What’s MRA?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1f497d">Matthew Huff | 1 Manhattanville Rd</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1f497d">Director of Operations | Purchase, NY 10577</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Brian Meade<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 28, 2017 2:11 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ben Amick <<a href="mailto:bamick@humanarc.com" target="_blank">bamick@humanarc.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Matthew Huff <<a href="mailto:mhuff@ox.com" target="_blank">mhuff@ox.com</a>>; Cisco VOIP <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Curiosity: New IP Communicator<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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We also need multiple lines, shared lines, hunt groups, etc… As far as I know ExpressWay is only for Jabber clients, does anyone know of a solution for Cisco 88xx phones secure remote access?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1f497d">Matthew Huff | 1 Manhattanville Rd</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1f497d">Director of Operations | Purchase, NY 10577</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1f497d">OTA Management LLC | Phone:
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ben Amick<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 28, 2017 12:54 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Charles Goldsmith <<a href="mailto:wokka@justfamily.org" target="_blank">wokka@justfamily.org</a>>; Heim, Dennis <<a href="mailto:Dennis.Heim@wwt.com" target="_blank">Dennis.Heim@wwt.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Cisco VOIP <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Curiosity: New IP Communicator</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I’ll raise my hand as one of those contact centers. Right now it’s because of the two reasons I mentioned in a parallel chain: a need for multiple lines and the BIB for QM recording.
The former is on the roadmap for jabber (with no ETA), but the latter as far as I’m aware still isn’t a part of Jabber.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Charles Goldsmith [<a href="mailto:wokka@justfamily.org" target="_blank">mailto:wokka@justfamily.org</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 28, 2017 12:49 PM<br>
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<b>Cc:</b> Ben Amick <<a href="mailto:bamick@HumanArc.com" target="_blank">bamick@HumanArc.com</a>>; Cisco VOIP <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Curiosity: New IP Communicator</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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which my experience with Cisco say’s don’t count on it or expect it.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> cisco-voip [mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puc<wbr>k.nether.net</a>]
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<b>To:</b> Cisco VOIP <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [cisco-voip] Curiosity: New IP Communicator<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I’m assuming no on this question, based on the fact that I haven’t heard even an inkling, and I know they’re working on multi-line support for Jabber, but I was wondering: Has anyone heard anything about them possibly coming up with a new
IP communicator that is based on the 8800 series code? I think that’d be great, and even better if they made it based on 8845 code, so it could use video as well, short of getting everyone to use jabber.<u></u><u></u></p>
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