<div dir="ltr">I do appreciate the follow up, but I have a bone to pick here...actually, a few. First, I was not in a situation where datasources were pointing at each other, I did have them pointing to a single node. And that's where failover failed me. I had both nodes pointing at the default Node 1, which was my Master, and when failover happened, reporting was down.<div><br></div><div>1) Where in the documentation does it say to reconfigure the datasource to point to the non-master node when deploying HA?</div><div><br></div><div>2) Why doesn't it configure itself?</div><div><br></div><div>3) Why doesn't it update itself like LiveData does?</div><div><br></div><div>4) Why can't we use the secondary source tab to populate both nodes?</div><div><br></div><div>5) What if I don't want all my reporting traffic traversing the WAN in HAoW deployments? I.e., My Mast is located where most of my Agent and Supervisors are, and I want reporting to stay local to them. The HA node is there just in case of a datacenter failure.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 3:03 AM Abhiram Kramadhati (akramadh) <<a href="mailto:akramadh@cisco.com">akramadh@cisco.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri" class="gmail_msg">So, here is the expected behavior and we are taking 11.5 as reference:
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<p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><u class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri" class="gmail_msg">Historical datasource:<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri" class="gmail_msg">The historical datasource on either node should always point to the non-master Node. So, assume N1 is the master. CUIC on N1 should be pointing to N2 datasource host and CUIC on N2 should
be pointing to N2 datasource host. Also, unlike older versions we don’t redirect users to the secondary UCCX IP to login to run reports. You can login to any node CUIC and run the report, but the datsource host should be the secondary server.
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<p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri" class="gmail_msg">However, we have seen cases where the nodes point to each other: N1 pointing to N2 (expected), N2 pointing to N1 (problem). This is opened as a defect and we are investigating why this
can happen and I am guessing that’s what has happened in Anthony’s case in the original email thread.
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<p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri" class="gmail_msg">CSCvd22513 is the defectID for your reference. I will share more information on the outcome of the investigation.
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<p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri" class="gmail_msg">This is always pointing to the local node by default and need not be changed. The LD datasource uses REST API to figure out the engine master and will obtain the feed from the current active
server. The LD failover too should happen automatically. So if the engine failover happens and you are still logged into N1 (slave now), LD should still be available and usable.
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</b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black" class="gmail_msg">"Abhiram Kramadhati (akramadh)" <<a href="mailto:akramadh@cisco.com" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">akramadh@cisco.com</a>><br class="gmail_msg">
<b class="gmail_msg">Date: </b>Friday, 7 April 2017 at 2:52 PM<br class="gmail_msg">
<b class="gmail_msg">To: </b>Anthony Holloway <<a href="mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip@gmail.com" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>>, Nick Britt <<a href="mailto:nickolasjbritt@gmail.com" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">nickolasjbritt@gmail.com</a>></span></p></div></div></div><div bgcolor="white" lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_5771678979209765436WordSection1 gmail_msg"><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm" class="gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black" class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg">
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<b class="gmail_msg">Subject: </b>Re: [cisco-voip] UCCX HA and CUIC Historical Data Source<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p></div></div></div><div bgcolor="white" lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_5771678979209765436WordSection1 gmail_msg">
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<b class="gmail_msg">Date: </b>Friday, 7 April 2017 at 6:01 AM<br class="gmail_msg">
<b class="gmail_msg">To: </b>Nick Britt <<a href="mailto:nickolasjbritt@gmail.com" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">nickolasjbritt@gmail.com</a>><br class="gmail_msg">
<b class="gmail_msg">Cc: </b>Cisco VoIP Group <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br class="gmail_msg">
<b class="gmail_msg">Subject: </b>Re: [cisco-voip] UCCX HA and CUIC Historical Data Source</span><u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:9.5pt" class="gmail_msg">There seems to be zero documentation for UCCX that mentions changing or adding Data Source configuration in CUIC when running HA; whether HAoL or HAoW.</span><u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:9.5pt" class="gmail_msg">However, I have heard from Cisco employees, forums posts, and colleagues, these two points:</span><u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></p>
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</span></span><u class="gmail_msg"></u><span style="font-size:9.5pt" class="gmail_msg">The Data Source should point to the secondary node, and you have to manually change it, as the default is pointing to the primary node.</span><u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></p>
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</span></span><u class="gmail_msg"></u><span style="font-size:9.5pt" class="gmail_msg">The Data Source's Secondary tab is defaulted to disabled, and not populated. It shouldn't be used, and CUIC takes care of updating the Data Source during a failure.</span><u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:9.5pt" class="gmail_msg">First off, where in the documentation is that explained? I cannot find a good explanation, sans ambiguity, to save my life. Are people just spreading rumors and old wives tales?</span><u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:9.5pt" class="gmail_msg">Also, I do know that back in the HRC days, the client would handle the connection to the secondary server automatically. So, I can see where this tale comes from.</span><u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:9.5pt" class="gmail_msg">Now, with HAoW, I tested failover with the server shutdown. Not in slave, but actually powered off. What I observed was, the Data Source was not automatically updated, and I could run any reports, despite
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