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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The cluster is on version 9.1.2<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ES" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">De:</span></b><span lang="ES" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> bmeade90@gmail.com [mailto:bmeade90@gmail.com]
<b>En nombre de </b>Brian Meade<br>
<b>Enviado el:</b> lunes, 24 de julio de 2017 04:51 p.m.<br>
<b>Para:</b> ROZA, Ariel <Ariel.ROZA@LA.LOGICALIS.COM><br>
<b>CC:</b> Ryan Huff <ryanhuff@outlook.com>; Anthony Holloway <avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com>; cisco-voip <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net><br>
<b>Asunto:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Force an outgoing call through a subscriber<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">What version are you on? There were some VMWare driver issues a long time ago that would cause issues with IPVMS resources- <a href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbst.cloudapps.cisco.com%2Fbugsearch%2Fbug%2FCSCtz29142&data=02%7C01%7CAriel.ROZA%40la.logicalis.com%7Ccfbdb5b25a9b4fe2583708d4d2cd4b55%7C2e3290cb8d404058abe502c4f58b87e3%7C0%7C0%7C636365226557540072&sdata=zUx6tJy%2BAf34fNymMdO%2BbqrJkLkJCOs3rk3%2FSkjVCE8%3D&reserved=0">https://bst.cloudapps.cisco.com/bugsearch/bug/CSCtz29142</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 3:31 PM, ROZA, Ariel <<a href="mailto:Ariel.ROZA@la.logicalis.com" target="_blank">Ariel.ROZA@la.logicalis.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Hi, Ryan, Anthony, et al,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> I´m sorry by the blunt nature of my first mail. I was burned out, at my customer´s.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> My problem is this:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> The users are complaining of broken audio in random calls to the PSTN
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> We Isolated the issue to a single subscriber that acts as MTP for calls, sometimes.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Wireshark captures show us that whenever the sub acts as an intermediary, audio gets jitter
(but no drops) This is on the upstream to the PSTN. The downstream is always fine.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">We suspect of a problem in the underlying nework, as the Publisher and the Subs are wired
differently and only the Subscriber show these problems.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">The Publisher is connected to a CAT4500 switch and the Sub is connected to a NEXUS 5000
that in turn is connected to the Cat4500</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I am already using MRGL/MRGs to force MTP, but sometimes the phones send the RTP directly
to the gateway, bypassing the MTP. (calling always the same number)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span lang="ES" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">De:</span></b><span lang="ES" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Ryan Huff [mailto:<a href="mailto:ryanhuff@outlook.com" target="_blank">ryanhuff@outlook.com</a>]
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<b>Enviado el:</b> domingo, 23 de julio de 2017 07:03 p.m.<br>
<b>Para:</b> Anthony Holloway <<a href="mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>CC:</b> ROZA, Ariel <<a href="mailto:Ariel.ROZA@LA.LOGICALIS.COM" target="_blank">Ariel.ROZA@LA.LOGICALIS.COM</a>>; cisco-voip <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
<b>Asunto:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Force an outgoing call through a subscriber</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Yes, it is splitting hairs IMO :). I'm specifically talking about a typical scenario where RTP is sent from/to the phone for a connected, like-codec call that is not forcing media
termination with the next device in the call leg. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">As you and I have mentioned, there are a handful of ways to use different features and services of a CUCM server to terminate and join media streams (MTP, CFB ... etc) ... and I
considers these as ancillary service and component capabilities to the server and not a core function of the server itself (hence, media not flowing through the server, although it maybe interacting with one or more of the aforementioned media services or
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Always happy to split hairs :).<br>
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On Jul 23, 2017, at 5:18 PM, Anthony Holloway <<a href="mailto:avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">1) Your first sentence reads to me like a contradiction. Could you clarify what you're stating here?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 2:53 PM Ryan Huff <<a href="mailto:ryanhuff@outlook.com" target="_blank">ryanhuff@outlook.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">So the actual media (RTP) will never flow through a CUCM server; it may however, terminate a connected media stream on a software based MTP application that CUCM runs as a service
(IP Voice Media Streaming Application). Signaling (SIP) on the other hand, will always traverse a CUCM server.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">If you see a CUCM IP address in the Audio field of the SDP, then it's likely terminating on a CUCM based MTP resource (most often, due to some differences in DTMF negotiations or
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">If you are trying to test a call using a CUCM MTP resource on a particular cluster node; the simplest way would be to create a new MRG/MRGL that only specifies MTP resources from
the desired cluster node and then advertise that MRGL to the phone and/or egress path to the pstn for the phone and then "require" MTP termination from the phone or egress path.<br>
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On Jul 21, 2017, at 3:37 PM, ROZA, Ariel <<a href="mailto:Ariel.ROZA@LA.LOGICALIS.COM" target="_blank">Ariel.ROZA@LA.LOGICALIS.COM</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">I need to test problems with calls outgoing from an Ip phone to the PSTN through a particular subscriber (as MTP?).
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Packet captures show me that, at times, calls go from my phone to the h323 gateway and sometimes they go from my phone to the Sub and then to the gew.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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