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On Aug 28, 2017, at 12:30 AM, Charles Goldsmith <<a href="mailto:wokka@justfamily.org">wokka@justfamily.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I should have looked at that link a bit closer, it doesn't mention the cop file: <a href="http://www.cisco.com/web/software/282204704/18582/CleanupCommonCOPfilev1.4.pdf">http://www.cisco.com/web/software/282204704/18582/CleanupCommonCOPfilev1.4.pdf</a>
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<div>Which is the 3rd method, but there is a caveat, so read it closely.</div>
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<div>That entire page is good reading.</div>
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On Aug 27, 2017, at 11:18 PM, Erick Bergquist <<a href="mailto:erickbee@gmail.com" target="_blank">erickbee@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I've done a few dozen inplace upgrades of CUCM, Unity, UCCX with existing VMs with no real issues over the past few years. Talking 8.x to 10.x or 11.x or 9.x to 10/11.x.
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<div>Freeing up disk space on existing VM for the RU/SU to install on a few upgrades (more of a slow down) </div>
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<div>Recently had issue with IM&P 9.x to 11.x where a invalid ntp entry was in the platformcfg.xml XML file that there is a bug ID on that TAC had to get in with root access to remove. After that the IM&P inplace upgrade went fine. </div>
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<div>And a few non-upgrade issues involving license matters and getting correct number of licenses. </div>
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<div>I was reading another post about 12.0 using CentOS now, need to read that over more and see what is changing with upgrade process. </div>
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<div>My only wish was if these would go faster. Maybe have an incremental patch with just fixes instead of a full size SU/install file and reinstalling every file - especially for SU patches within same major version. </div>
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<div>YMMV, Erick</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Why not just come along with me on my next upgrade. You can feel the pain...err excitement, of planning and executing an upgrade in the real world. ;)</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 9:52 AM Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) <<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div>We are looking at ways to make upgrades easier and stories like these are very helpful.</div>
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<div>On Aug 24, 2017, at 10:17 AM, Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div>1. I'm guessing we are 10% True bugs and 90% environment, but I will agree with other comments about DNS and NTP being a dumb reason to fail </div>
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<div>2. as for time, over the years we used to spend over 6 months on upgrades...... we are down to about 2 months. in our enviroment we have to document all the changes before so it can be communicated to the end user. Researching for the answers has moved
from Anthony's 100 documents to just opening a TAC case. It has become way to time consuming to find all the right doc's to get the correct answer.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Wow, it's kind of cool that you're even asking. Thanks for that.
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<div>Already I can see this is going to be a wide gap in responses. Partner vs end user, this customer vs that customer, this version vs that version, this scenario vs that one, and on, and on, and on.</div>
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<div>1) I feel like it's always a bug (100%), in that, developers should code solutions that can work around most issues. E.g., I had an upgrade fail on a CUCM because the ntp was
<a href="http://0.us.pool.ntp.org/" target="_blank">0.us.pool.ntp.org</a>, despite CUCM happily syncing to it in the current version. OR Common partition not having enough space, when devs could just purge old logs to make room, or simply make better logs
to begin with (I do admit, moving to compress logs [TAR/GZ] was sweet)</div>
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<div>2) This is a painful one for me, but I put in a lot of time preparing for an upgrade. A large portion of the time is, in my opinion, wasted finding the right documentation and then trying to interpret it. Here's a fun one: there's over 100 documents
an Engineer needs to reference in preparation for what I would consider a low-medium level environment. I've posted this before, but I'll post it again, I have a matrix of documents I need to reference during the planning and execution phase of an upgrade:</div>
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1. When you or your customers have a UCM or IMP upgrade fail, what percentage of failures are due to a bug vs something in the environment (user error, db updates, etc)?<br>
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