<div dir="ltr"><div>Sounds good.</div><div><br></div><div>Also, I must say, that I have not seen this Tomcat issue the folks in this thread seem to be reporting as normal Tomcat behavior. I can't think of the last time I had Tomcat hang, and I had to restart it. Not saying it doesn't happen, just not in my world.</div><div><br></div>I have no concerns using webdialer. I don't often see it in use, but I have seen it used...recently in fact.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 11:49 AM Terry Oakley <<a href="mailto:Terry.Oakley@rdc.ab.ca">Terry.Oakley@rdc.ab.ca</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Not taking this personally at all.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Tomcat was running for approximately 25 days as we had just upgraded from 11.5 SU2 to SU3 for O365 support and had rebooted all of the UCM pub and subs
as well as the IMP pub and sub. I am hoping this is not indicative of what may become a routine to restart Tomcat services. Or is it. I know the more we are tying functions together, Unity Connection, IM and Presence, UC, UCCX, O365 there is going to
be more need for me/us to get a better and fuller understanding of how this all dances together and what tune it likes to dance too. And hopefully if I can learn at least a step or two of that dance (and remember them) I can then create a more optimized
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I totally appreciate what you stated Anthony and wholeheartedly agree. Time now for me to put my agreement into action. BTW hope your cutover went
well, I have sadly been involved with really bad ones and a few very few, good ones. Hope yours was the later.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">PS since I have you all on this thread, any concern/gotcha with enabling Webdialer?
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<b>Sent:</b> December 15, 2017 11:42 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Terry Oakley <<a href="mailto:Terry.Oakley@rdc.ab.ca" target="_blank">Terry.Oakley@rdc.ab.ca</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Ryan Huff <<a href="mailto:ryanhuff@outlook.com" target="_blank">ryanhuff@outlook.com</a>>; <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a></span></p></div></div><div lang="EN-CA" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="m_-1966832147373607585WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] UC server performance and UCCX agent in reserve<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div lang="EN-CA" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="m_-1966832147373607585WordSection1">
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<p class="MsoNormal">This isn't at you Terry, but in general.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Companies will spend a lot of money getting systems in place, but then completely forget that technology has a life cycle; leading towards a better experience. And no, I don't just mean upgrade to the latest shiny version. I mean, efficiency,
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<p class="MsoNormal">Without being able to quantify it, I have seen more than a comfortable amount of environments
<b>without</b>: a pre-production environment, proper analytics, proper change control, a good monitoring solution (emails from RTMT don't count), resource usage monitoring, a good backup strategy, vmtools up to date, and anything other than just MACD work being
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<p class="MsoNormal">It's like there's this sole effort on "projects," and the old saying: "if isn't broke, don't fix it," wins again. We lose the chance to truly understand our systems, and therefore the chance to optimize them.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i>Disclaimer: Today was a long cutover, and I'm tired</i><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">PS Ryan amazes me too.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Thank you again Ryan. I think I found the issue. One of the tests showed a problem with AXL services. Restarted Tomcat and we appear to be much better.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 14, 2017 5:29:31 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ryan Huff</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">PS i don't know how you find all the time to respond to all of us but I am very thankful that you do. </span><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI Symbol",sans-serif;color:black">😊</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 14, 2017 5:26:53 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Terry Oakley<br>
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On Dec 14, 2017, at 7:18 PM, Terry Oakley <<a href="mailto:Terry.Oakley@rdc.ab.ca" target="_blank">Terry.Oakley@rdc.ab.ca</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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5 to 10 seconds or even longer. Page refresh is also really slow. In looking at RTMT the CPU/Memory/disk space are all around 50% or less with no apparent spikes. Any suggestions on where this lag could be?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">On another but may be related , a couple of our agents (but not all) both have had their phones restart while in use, and today both had their agent go into
Reserved state for a couple of minutes before finally connecting and allowing them service. Again any suggestions on where one would look would be appreciated.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">UC 11.5 SU3<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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