<div dir="ltr">Jab? People don't really say that do they? I've not heard that one before, thankfully. It's about as bad as people dropping the "ber" from cucumber, when referring to CUCM.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 9:46 AM Ben Amick <<a href="mailto:bamick@humanarc.com">bamick@humanarc.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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but opposite - as in the case of tissues, those tissues are in fact the name of the product prior to branding. Whereas "Teams" in relations to chat software wasn't a generic term. Checking trademark listings, it looks like the Trademark is for "Microsoft Teams"
and not just "Teams" so I'm guessing Microsoft came to the same conclusion about common phrases. It'll make for some really nice confusing material for third-party VC software compatibility. "We're compatible with Teams" - "Which one?"</span></p>
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chat softwares that M$ and Cisco are putting out are entertaining in how they aren't really useful as a recognizable product name but great for incorporating into sentences.</span><br>
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appeal of Spark, especially when they tried to push way too hard on the Spark branding. Yeah, the "Spark Board" sounds fancier, but "Webex Board" probably would've moved more units. </span></p>
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<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><b>Common words</b> and <b>phrases can</b> be <b>trademarked</b> if the person or company seeking the <b>trademark can</b>demonstrate that the phrase has acquired a distinctive secondary meaning apart
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<div>I don’t think “teams” would qualify; I couldn’t imagine saying “teams” to anyone and them automatically thinking, “Oh, that Microsoft thing”.</div>
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<div>If the users won’t come to Spark, I guess you bring Spark to the users and put a little dressing on it (to distance the platform from those early on scale based outages ;).</div>
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<div>It’s a pretty creative way get valuation for the product if you think about. Tap into a well known and loved branding message with a massive pre existing user base with a high adoption to churn ratio. It’s all about fiduciary responsibility ;).</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 19, 2018 10:09 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Lamont, Joshua <<a href="mailto:joshua_lamont@brown.edu" target="_blank">joshua_lamont@brown.edu</a>>; cisco-voip voyp list <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
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