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The fix for CSCvb33351 was ported back to 11.5 but won’t be there until 11.5(1)SU5. 
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<div class="">On Apr 30, 2018, at 9:57 AM, Anthony Holloway <<a href="mailto:avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com" class="">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="">On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 8:22 AM Lelio Fulgenzi <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" class="">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>> wrote:<br class="">
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<p class="MsoNormal">But, it’s not that the “endpoint is vulnerable to security breach” – it’s the whole system!<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b class=""><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" class="">Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.</span></b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" class=""> | Senior Analyst<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b class="">From:</b> cisco-voip <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank" class="">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>>
<b class="">On Behalf Of </b>Anthony Holloway<br class="">
<b class="">Sent:</b> Monday, April 30, 2018 9:11 AM</p>
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<b class="">To:</b> Cisco VoIP Group <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank" class="">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br class="">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b class="">Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM and Auto Fill Credentials<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I just upgraded a system to CUCM 11.5(1)SU4 (11.5.1.14900-11) and when I went to change the Device Pool on this phone, I saw this message at the top:<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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And when I scrolled down to the Secure Shell section, sure enough, my administrator credentials were in there.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">So, the problem still persists, but Cisco is trying to make you aware that it happened.  Of course, if you don't see it, or don't understand it, you're not going to correct it.  Also, who wants to scroll down and erase the credentials every
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<p class="MsoNormal">I did not test all of the pages where this can happen, to see if Cisco caught them all, but this was the major offender in my opinion.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 8:49 PM Anthony Holloway <<a href="mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" class="">So, I was looking at phone config file today, and I noticed the ccmadmin username and password was in the XML, and in plain text nonetheless.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" class="">I found out that the browser, when told to remember your credentials, will treat the SSH username/password fields as login fields whenever you modify a phone, and you
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" class="">Then in the output, if there are any hits, look at the config XML file for the phone and see if the passwords are there.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" class="">So then you would navigate your browser to:<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" class="">You're then looking for the following two fields, your results will vary:<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" class="">Then, since we now know it's happening, get list of how many different usernames you have with this command:<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" class="">1) Is it even happening outside of my limited testing scenarios?<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" class="">The reason it's happening is because the way in which browsers identify login forms, is different from the way in which web developers understand it to work.  Cisco uses
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