<div dir="ltr">Old is exactly the reason too!<div><br></div><div>Cisco is making you keep up to date with the phone firmware versions, and inevitability, that means your phones will out pace CUCM.</div><div><br></div><div>Oh and CUCM firmware info is in Read Me, bottom-ish of document.</div><div><br></div><div>E.g.,</div><div><a href="https://www.cisco.com/web/software/282074295/141143/cucm-readme-1151su4.pdf">https://www.cisco.com/web/software/282074295/141143/cucm-readme-1151su4.pdf</a><br></div><div><br></div><div><div>Look for "Firmware Versions in this Release"</div></div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 8:18 AM Lelio Fulgenzi <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> cisco-voip <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] 8832s<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="m_-9128919989457646WordSection1">
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<p class="MsoNormal">Since Cisco already drops support for all firmware older than the most recent firmware:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">- For each IP Phone model, once Cisco releases a new firmware version, the older versions are no longer supported.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">- Cisco expects customers who encounter a problem on an older version of firmware to test the latest firmware on a subset of phones in order to confirm that the problem still exists.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Source: <a href="http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/collaboration-endpoints/unified-ip-phone-7900-series/116684-technote-ipphone-00.html" target="_blank">
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<p class="MsoNormal">And most people agree that you should upgrade firmware before a CUCM upgrade anyway, just remove firmware from CUCM.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Not too mention it clutters up TFTP.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I also think that the firmware should be decoupled from the Device Packs. When adding support for a single model phone, rarely am I also trying to upgrade 100% of the phones in the environment too.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 8:22 PM Charles Goldsmith <<a href="mailto:wokka@justfamily.org" target="_blank">wokka@justfamily.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Since the 8832 is a dual bank phone, shouldn't it have the old image on it in the backup bank? Maybe hardcoding the old image on the phone configuration and doing a reset will cause it to boot from it?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">My guess is they don’t actually need RMA’ed, just the easiest way to deal with it .... <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">In the 79xx series back in the day when I would perform this Lazarus trick for some lucky customers; the bootstrap filename was <b><span style="border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">XMLDefault.cnf.xml. </span></b>Not sure if it’s the
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<p class="MsoNormal">Here is the Cisco doc on the procedure for the older stuff .... worth a shot but not sure if it still works on the newer gear.<u></u><u></u></p>
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On Apr 29, 2018, at 18:53, Jason Aarons (Americas) <<a href="mailto:jason.aarons@dimensiondata.com" target="_blank">jason.aarons@dimensiondata.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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the first two phones they downgraded from 12.0.1SR2 to 12.0.1 and are now unusable. They sit on “Connecting” after booting up. They do not get an IP address. You cannot set an IP address manually. If you reset the phone it doesn’t fix it, nor does a <a href="https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cuipph/8832/english/adminguide/cs88_b_conference-8832-admin-guide-cucm/cs88_b_conference-8832-admin-guide-cucm_chapter_01011.html" target="_blank">factory
reset</a> allow the phone to revert to the firmware they shipped with. Cisco TAC says they must be RMA’d. We upgraded CUCM to 12.0.1SR3 and the other two phones upgraded fine from 12.0.1SR2 to 12.0.1SR3.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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