<div dir="ltr">Pat -<div>I will agree that the ASR1k offers redundant RPs but by the time you configure it the way you want, you'd probably find dual ISR4k's to be the same cost. Just a guess there as I haven't ran the numbers but I know the ASR comes at quite the premium over the ISR.<br></div><div><br></div><div>The ISR4k offers an 8xT1 NIM and the ISR-4451 supports 5 NIMs (using SM-X NIM adapter) which gives you 40 T1 ports and 1200 E1 channels or 920 T1 channels in a single 2RU box.</div><div><br></div><div>For the ASR to do voice decoding it would have to carry the TDM clock signal from the T1 SPA to the DSP SPA which doesn't happen. On the old ISRG2's and older we carried the TDM clock across the backplane which meant you had a single clock domain inside the entire box. The problem with that was you could encounter line slips if one of your circuits was not coming from the CO or from even the same provider in the same CO. As a result, the new ISR4k does not carry the TDM clock outside of the NIM module and so the DSP resources all reside locally to the T1 cards themselves. This means that you have to keep the same providers/CO on the same NIM but you can bring other providers/COs into other NIMs and have separate clocking domains. This is huge for teleco redundancy across your PRIs.</div><div><br></div><div>Andrew</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 2:47 PM, PF <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pucknether@foril.com" target="_blank">pucknether@foril.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">ok</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">I guess we will have to look for another product
like the ISR4k</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">the ASR1006 was very interresting because it
was full redundant</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">and we could put several 8xT1 card in it to have
greater density</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">the ISR4k seems to be limited to 3 cards and is not
redundant.</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Pat</font></div><div><div class="h5">
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
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<div style="FONT:10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial;BACKGROUND:#e4e4e4"><b>From:</b>
<a title="vtadorsett@gmail.com" href="mailto:vtadorsett@gmail.com" target="_blank">Andrew
Dorsett</a> </div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="ryanhuff@outlook.com" href="mailto:ryanhuff@outlook.com" target="_blank">Ryan Huff</a> </div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial"><b>Cc:</b> <a title="pucknether@foril.com" href="mailto:pucknether@foril.com" target="_blank">PF</a> ; <a title="cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a> </div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 04, 2018 12:45 PM</div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] ISDN T1 voice
calls hardware validation</div>
<div><br></div>
<div dir="auto">I replied privately but the SPA-DSP was built for SBC
transcoding using CUBE between SIP or H323 trunks. Unless something has
changed recently it cannot be linked to the T1 SPA to terminate PRI
Voice. </div>
<div dir="auto"><br></div>
<div dir="auto">To terminate voice from a PRI you will need to use one of the
ISR products and the relevant T1 module with DSPs. If you’re using the latest
it would be an ISR4k with the NIM first mentioned and make sure the DSPs are
onboard the NIM. </div>
<div dir="auto"><br></div>
<div dir="auto">Andrew</div>
<div dir="auto"><br></div>
<div><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div>On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 12:32 PM Ryan Huff <<a href="mailto:ryanhuff@outlook.com" target="_blank">ryanhuff@outlook.com</a>>
wrote:<br></div>
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<div dir="auto">Not sure if DSP is onboard the SPA like the NIM; I’d have to
look that one up ... you might try <span><i>dsp services dspfarm
</i>under the voice-card configuration parameter. I’d also disable cdp on
the serial interface.</span>
<div><br></div>
<div>
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iPhone</div></div></div>
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<div>
<div><br>On May 4, 2018, at 12:18, PF <<a href="mailto:pucknether@foril.com" target="_blank">pucknether@foril.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Hi</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">I have tried several
configurations</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Here is the relevent par of the actual
config</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"><br>version 15.3<br>boot system flash
bootflash:asr1000rp2-<wbr>adventerprisek9.03.10.07.S.<wbr>153-3.S7-ext.bin<br>!<br>card
type t1 0 2<br>!<br>multilink bundle-name authenticated<br>isdn
switch-type primary-5ess<br>!<br>voice-card 0/0<br>!<br>voice service
pots<br> supported-language FR<br>!<br>voice service
voip<br> clid network-provided<br> allow-connections h323 to
sip<br> allow-connections sip to h323<br> allow-connections sip
to sip<br> signaling forward unconditional<br> sip<br>
bind control source-interface GigabitEthernet1/2/0<br> bind media
source-interface GigabitEthernet1/2/0<br> ds0-num<br>
header-passing<br> privacy id<br> outbound-proxy
ipv4:172.16.x.y<br>!<br>voice class codec 1<br> codec preference 1
g711ulaw<br>!<br>controller T1 0/2/0<br> framing esf<br> clock
source internal<br> linecode b8zs<br> cablelength long
0db<br> pri-group timeslots 1-24<br>!<br>interface
Service-Engine0/0/0<br>!<br>interface
Serial0/2/0:23<br> encapsulation hdlc<br> isdn switch-type
primary-5ess<br> isdn negotiate-bchan<br>!<br>map-class dialer
DOVtest<br> dialer voice-call<br>!<br>dspfarm profile 1 transcode
universal <br> rsvp<br> shutdown<br>!<br>dial-peer voice 1
voip<br> destination-pattern *.<br> signaling forward
unconditional<br> session protocol sipv2<br> session target
sip-server<br> voice-class codec 1 <br>!<br>dial-peer voice 2
pots<br> destination-pattern xxxxxxx<br> incoming called-number
xxxxxxx<br> direct-inward-dial<br>!<br>!<br>sip-ua
<br> credentials username asr1006 password 7 xxxxxxxx realm
yyyyy<br> retry invite 3<br> retry bye 3<br> retry cancel
3<br> timers trying 1000<br> timers register
100<br> sip-server ipv4:172.16.x.y<br>!<br>!</font></div><font size="2" face="Arial">
<div>Pat</div></font>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
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<div style="FONT:10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial;BACKGROUND:#e4e4e4"><b>From:</b> <a title="ryanhuff@outlook.com" href="mailto:ryanhuff@outlook.com" target="_blank">Ryan Huff</a> </div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="pfortin@royaume.com" href="mailto:pfortin@royaume.com" target="_blank">Patrick Fortin</a>
</div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial"><b>Cc:</b> <a title="cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a> </div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 04, 2018 11:43
AM</div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] ISDN T1
voice calls hardware validation</div>
<div><br></div>I assume you have the card type specified and controller
interface configured with timeslots?
<div><br></div>
<div>Can you send the running-config and code version?<br><br>
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<div><br>On May 4, 2018, at 11:35, Patrick Fortin <<a href="mailto:pfortin@royaume.com" target="_blank">pfortin@royaume.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Hi</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">I get this error</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"> **ERROR**: call_incoming: Received
a call id 0x2F with a bad bearercap from xxxxxxxxxx on b channel
1</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">seems like the dsp are not associated
with the t1 card</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"><br>in the config we don't have acces to
the following :</font></div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">
<p>isdn incoming-voice voice<br>which should go on the Serial
interface. <br><br>we also don't have the "port" command that should
go in the dial-peer voice section</p></font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">any ideas ?</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Thanks</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Pat</font></div>
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<div style="FONT:10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial;BACKGROUND:#e4e4e4"><b>From:</b> <a title="ryanhuff@outlook.com" href="mailto:ryanhuff@outlook.com" target="_blank">Ryan Huff</a> </div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="pucknether@foril.com" href="mailto:pucknether@foril.com" target="_blank">PF</a> </div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial"><b>Cc:</b> <a title="cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a> </div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 04, 2018
11:11 AM</div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] ISDN
T1 voice calls hardware validation</div>
<div><br></div>That correct! I misread! Yeah the shared port adapter
T1 should work.
<div><br><br>
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iPhone</div>
<div><br>On May 4, 2018, at 10:36, PF <<a href="mailto:pucknether@foril.com" target="_blank">pucknether@foril.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Hi</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Thanks for your help</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">But there are no NIM slot in the
ASR1006 chassis</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">NIM is for ASR1001-X I
think</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Pat</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
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<div style="FONT:10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
</div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial;BACKGROUND:#e4e4e4"><b>From:</b>
<a title="ryanhuff@outlook.com" href="mailto:ryanhuff@outlook.com" target="_blank">Ryan Huff</a> </div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="pucknether@foril.com" href="mailto:pucknether@foril.com" target="_blank">PF</a> </div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial"><b>Cc:</b> <a title="cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a> </div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 04, 2018
9:56 AM</div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip]
ISDN T1 voice calls hardware validation</div>
<div><br></div>For isdn voice you’ll need a
NIM-8MFT-T1/E1<br><br>
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iPhone</div>
<div><br>On May 4, 2018, at 09:31, PF <<a href="mailto:pucknether@foril.com" target="_blank">pucknether@foril.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">
<div>Hi</div>
<div>
<p>Can someone help us validate if we can use this hardware to
receive voice calls from a isdn T1 (23B+D) and send them in
SIP to a softswitch and vice-versa</p>
<p>ASR1006<br>SPA-8XCHT1/E1<br>SPA-DSP<br>ASR1000-RP2<br>ASR1000-ESP40</p>
<p>in short can it be used to build a voip gateway like an
audiocode mediant or a patton smartnode</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Pat</p></div></font></div></div></blockquote>
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