<div dir="ltr">As far as you know Jeremy, is the "Video" in the name of the KEM for the 8865, just a description, and not necessarily a capability? I cannot imagine why the KEM would have caps, but you never know.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 1:55 PM Jeremy Bresley <<a href="mailto:brez@brezworks.com">brez@brezworks.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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To clarify, there's actually 3 different 8800 KEMs.<br>
The original (CP-BEKEM=) is the single screen straight model.<br>
The 8851/8861 KEM (CP8800-A-KEM=) is the dual-screen straight model.<br>
The 8865 KEM (CP-8800-V-KEM=) is the dual-screen tilted model
(matching the bend in the 8845/65).
<p>The A-KEM and V-KEM do require newer phone loads to be
supported. The BEKEM is supported on older firmware than you want
to be using in production anymore.</p>
<p>Jeremy<br>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 10, 2018 2:45 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] 8865 + KEM + Video Calls<u></u><u></u>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I just noticed that there is a
requirement in the accessories guide to be running 12.0(1)
firmware when using the KEM.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">"The Cisco IP Phone 8851/8861 Key
Expansion Module and the Cisco IP Phone 8865 Key Expansion
Module require firmware release 12.0(1) or later, and
Cisco Unified Communications Manager 10.5(2) or later to
function."<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">And this phone is running 11.7(1). Let
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<p class="MsoNormal">The module is the single LCD flat
one, not the dual screen angled one. The module in CUCM
is listed as "BEKEM 36-Button Line Expansion Module" as
opposed to "CP-8800-Video 28 Button Key Expansion
Module" or even "CP-8800-Audio 28 Button Key Expansion
Module"<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Interestingly, I have both an
11.5(1)SU3 and an 11.5(1)SU4 deployment to look at,
and the SU3 one doesn't have the newer KEM selections
in the drop down, but the SU4 one does. So, you would
think that the SU4 Release Notes would mention it, but
there's nothing in there.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'd be surprised if the module
itself is causing the phone to negotiate video or not,
but I suppose Cisco does like to keep us on our toes.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 11:30 AM
Matthew Loraditch <<a href="mailto:MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com" target="_blank">MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com</a>>
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CP-BEKEM or the newer one? I’m speculating based
on the way the newer one is listed as a video
expansion module in some places you need the newer
one..<u></u><u></u></p>
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</span><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">On
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Friday, August 10, 2018 12:13 PM<br>
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VoIP Group <<u><span style="color:blue">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</span></u>><br>
</span><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">Subject:</span><span style="color:windowtext;font-weight:normal;text-decoration:none">
[cisco-voip] 8865 + KEM + Video Calls<u></u><u></u></span></a></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://facebook.com/heliontech" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">I have a use case on an
8865 with the KEM, and a Line configured
per the usual setup. If that line is on
the phone itself, I can call it, and get
video to establish. If I move the line
to the KEM, I can call it, but get audio
only.<u></u><u></u></span></a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://facebook.com/heliontech" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none"> <u></u><u></u></span></a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://facebook.com/heliontech" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">Is that working as
designed, a configuration miss on my
part, or a defect?<u></u><u></u></span></a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://facebook.com/heliontech" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none"> <u></u><u></u></span></a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://facebook.com/heliontech" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">Unfortunately, I don't
have access to many expansion modules
(none actually), so testing different
setups/firmware versions is not
possible.<u></u><u></u></span></a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://facebook.com/heliontech" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">Thanks in advanced.<u></u><u></u></span></a></p>
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