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It’s so odd because the 8.10 admin guide also has that sentence about “its free, unless it is transformed” ... I guess the proof will be in the pudding 🤷♂️<br>
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On Aug 31, 2018, at 10:17, Lelio Fulgenzi <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Just a quick follow up… after, you know, _<i>reading</i>_ the documentation, I found this paragraph in the deployment guide.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">So it looks like I _<i>should</i>_ be safe… we’re using X.10.x soon to upgrade to X.11.x<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Calls dialed without the Webex site domain consume RMS licenses on the Cisco Expressway. To take advantage<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">of RMS license bypass in X8.6 and later, users must dial the full URI.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">SIP calls made to Webex meetings on VCS or Expressway software versions X8.9 and later can take advantage<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">of Cloud Licensing for both full dial strings, and simplified dial strings. However, versions X8.6.1 to X8.8.3<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">inclusive consume at least one traversal or RMS license per simplified call, depending on your specific software<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">version. For these versions, the dialed address must not have any Transforms applied, and must match the<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Ryan Huff <<a href="mailto:ryanhuff@outlook.com">ryanhuff@outlook.com</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 29, 2018 4:10 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Brian Meade <<a href="mailto:bmeade90@vt.edu">bmeade90@vt.edu</a>>; Lelio Fulgenzi <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip voyp list <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] dialing WebEx from CUCM/Expressway<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">It may very well not be however, this is an excerpt from the 8.10 guide (note the use of the word
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https://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/expressway/admin_guide/Cisco-Expressway-Administrator-Guide-X8-10.pdf">https://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/expressway/admin_guide/Cisco-Expressway-Administrator-Guide-X8-10.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Although, it would not be unlike Cisco to inflect meaning where meaning should not be .... so as I and Brian have suggested, just keep an eye on it :).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From:</span></b><span style="color:black"> Brian Meade <<a href="mailto:bmeade90@vt.edu">bmeade90@vt.edu</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 29, 2018 4:05 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Lelio Fulgenzi<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Ryan Huff; cisco-voip voyp list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] dialing WebEx from CUCM/Expressway</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Probably worth keeping the search rules the same and just using transforms. I don't think it's checking against Transforms.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 3:53 PM Lelio Fulgenzi <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal">So, we’re saying then, that the Cisco recommended approach to simplifying video dialing and/or using the pilot number approach, uses up RMS licenses?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal">Seems a bit odd.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.</span></b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> | Senior Analyst</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Computing and Communications Services</span><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> | University of Guelph</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><b>From:</b> Ryan Huff <<a href="mailto:ryanhuff@outlook.com" target="_blank">ryanhuff@outlook.com</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 29, 2018 2:08 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Lelio Fulgenzi <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Brian Meade <<a href="mailto:bmeade90@vt.edu" target="_blank">bmeade90@vt.edu</a>>; cisco-voip voyp list <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] dialing WebEx from CUCM/Expressway<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Keep an eye on RMS usage if you do that though. Webex calls on Expressway are only supposed to be free if the call isn’t transformed or manipulated by Expressway (not sure if that changed in 8.11 though).<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Aug 29, 2018, at 11:35, Lelio Fulgenzi <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal">Eeeek. I just looked at those. I think the transform on the C is less painful now.
<span style="font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif">😉</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal">The configuration > dial plan > transform screen is what I should be using I’m guessing. Interesting how there are no “permissions” attached, no zones, etc. So I’m guessing these are global and anyone can find them?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.</span></b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> | Senior Analyst</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Computing and Communications Services</span><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> | University of Guelph</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 |
<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0563C1">lelio@uoguelph.ca</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><b>From:</b> Brian Meade <<a href="mailto:bmeade90@vt.edu" target="_blank">bmeade90@vt.edu</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 29, 2018 11:29 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Lelio Fulgenzi <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip voyp list <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] dialing WebEx from CUCM/Expressway<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal">There's no way in CUCM to modify URIs other than SIP Normalization Scripts as far as I'm aware.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal">On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 11:20 AM Lelio Fulgenzi <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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Just reading through the Cisco Webex Meetings Enterprise Deployment Guide for Video Device-Enabled Meetings<<a href="https://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/td/docs/collaboration/webex_centers/esp/WebEx_Meeting_Center_Video_Conferencing_Enterprise_Deployment_Guide_WBS31_WBS32.pdf" target="_blank">https://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/td/docs/collaboration/webex_centers/esp/WebEx_Meeting_Center_Video_Conferencing_Enterprise_Deployment_Guide_WBS31_WBS32.pdf</a>>
doc, and on page 20 and 21 it talks about simplifying the dialing.<br>
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It talks about setting up a route pattern on CUCM and doing the transformation on Expressway.<br>
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I was hoping to do all the transformation on CUCM, since that's what I'm more used to.<br>
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I've got a domain based SIP route pattern working, I can dial <a href="mailto:user@acme.webex.com" target="_blank">
user@acme.webex.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:user@acme.webex.com" target="_blank">user@acme.webex.com</a>> and get into the personal room.<br>
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I'd like to set up something like *88.XXXXXXXXX to go right to the meeting and also a pilot, 88888, to go to the IVR menu.<br>
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Is there no way to modify *88.XXXXXXXXX on CUCM to send calls to <a href="mailto:XXXXXXXXX@acme.webex.com" target="_blank">
XXXXXXXXX@acme.webex.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:XXXXXXXXX@acme.webex.com" target="_blank">XXXXXXXXX@acme.webex.com</a>> and then it finds the SIP route pattern? Same with the pilot?<br>
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Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph<br>
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