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Some of us are talking like this was a planned outage / maintenance on their part? Do we know this was planned? All the status updates are written with break/fix language. That could be CYA, but I really don’t think this was planned.
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<div>If we make it to 9:22PM Eastern though, that’ll be a full 24 hours You has the over / under on a 24 hour outage?<br>
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On Sep 25, 2018, at 12:02, Lelio Fulgenzi <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Anthony Holloway <<a href="mailto:avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 25, 2018 11:48 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Matthew Loraditch <<a href="mailto:MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com">MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Ryan Huff <<a href="mailto:ryanhuff@outlook.com">ryanhuff@outlook.com</a>>; Lelio Fulgenzi <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>>; Cisco VoIP Group <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Webex Teams Down<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 10:43 AM Matthew Loraditch <<a href="mailto:MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com">MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">This one almost seems like an "act of god" or hacking had to take place. If you want to read about an interesting one MS had with Azure a few weeks ago look here on 9/4 <a href="https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fazure.microsoft.com%2Fen-us%2Fstatus%2Fhistory%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C88aac0c6ac994bb7387408d623005747%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636734881702468694&sdata=08bYvYAtbZ5zFPJrtiETSi%2F%2FF2RyDge6SLEsZATw8ec%3D&reserved=0" originalsrc="https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/status/history/" shash="SNrD16ySi/L1/2vMEigTqA2NwUjpRooLp3HOqdssXF6snsI+K2wmIEEDFXtX5gDUOartXz97LfEHiCf9REZHisQSP+6wDTcQg8aZV36MzVeD4yIUt8M7O/RnchG7s08akwDw0A1VFfVWAKquehz/VbkaN89J8SNmSGI0sz+ZGro=" target="_blank">https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/status/history/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 25, 2018 11:37 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Lelio Fulgenzi<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Cisco VoIP Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Webex Teams Down</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">That’s the value prop of the cloud though; “we take away the risk of your on-prem infrastructure, but you have to pay for that in control of your service, experience and ability to troubleshoot”.
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<p class="MsoNormal">I tell folks all the time risk mitigation paid for by giving up control is never a good idea.<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Sep 25, 2018, at 11:30, Lelio Fulgenzi <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="m6960549982050888655xmsonormal">I know that for my maintenance activities I evaluate the risk vs potential impact vs backout requirements to understand how much effort I put in to preparing things. One time I scavenged our e-waste pile for compatible
HP hardware and purchased old CPUs for an upgrade to ensure that I had at most a 90minute backout (plugging wires and turning up servers x 9). Restoring from backup was just too long in this case.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="m6960549982050888655xmsonormal">I don’t begin to fathom the complexity of the webex backend service, but I find it hard to believe there were not options available to ensure a quick and orderly backout plan – not simply restoring from backup. Would
it be expensive? Sure, but define “expensive” relative to the impact this has caused.
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<p class="m6960549982050888655xmsonormal"><b>From:</b> cisco-voip <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ryan Huff<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 25, 2018 11:20 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Anthony Holloway <<a href="mailto:avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Cisco VoIP Group <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Webex Teams Down<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="m6960549982050888655xmsonormal">I my 17 years doing this, I have never once caused or suffered a seemingly unexplained and unexpected 10+ hour outage of all service to an environment/application.
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<p class="m6960549982050888655xmsonormal">From an end user's perspective, whether cloud or on prem, the service is simply unavailable. From a CIO perspective, someone else screwed up, and someone else is working on it. I don't see why this is different or
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<p class="m6960549982050888655xmsonormal">On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 9:11 AM Palmer, Brian <<a href="mailto:Brian.Palmer@bcbsfl.com" target="_blank">Brian.Palmer@bcbsfl.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="m6960549982050888655xmsonormal">This sure is rather wild that it has been down for so long. We only have a few boards, but I do hope that every business user is reviewing the word “cloud” and how great it really is within this context.
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<p class="m6960549982050888655xmsonormal"><b>From:</b> cisco-voip <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Matthew Loraditch<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 25, 2018 9:43 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ryan Huff <<a href="mailto:ryanhuff@outlook.com" target="_blank">ryanhuff@outlook.com</a>>; Matt Jacobson <<a href="mailto:m4ttjacobson@gmail.com" target="_blank">m4ttjacobson@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Webex Teams Down<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="m6960549982050888655xmsonormal">The RFO for this one is going to be a doozy. On meetings they are migrating all users who had been upgraded to Video Platform 2.0 back to 1.0. I have no idea of the scope but that seems like a pretty big undertaking
and a tiny insight into how screwed up whatever happened is.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="m6960549982050888655xmsonormal"><b><a href="https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdefang.bcbsfl.com%2Fdefang.php%3Furl%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Ffacebook.com%2Fheliontech&data=02%7C01%7C%7C88aac0c6ac994bb7387408d623005747%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636734881702624947&sdata=GclDqO3p1q%2BWUoIIZ2kmf3jixSHbukKmXTRc91SsvLM%3D&reserved=0" originalsrc="http://defang.bcbsfl.com/defang.php?url=https://facebook.com/heliontech" shash="dleQc/EKPE79fUo27qhHCq1s0kF74yzKfiqG21/Axp5zBTSXud3myzHrpVFyxvrf71A9peicdkTgTsRXlT8ySeUkelcLkSfKKM/gFFzmqwJwA+A9e/Xx3KjpLPTkXWuIfOpLrucidf0CFERn0uqMJz5M2+CgWAUe/FZLtGiT434=" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">From:</span><span style="color:windowtext;font-weight:normal;text-decoration:none">
cisco-voip <<u><span style="color:blue">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</span></u>>
</span><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">On Behalf Of </span><span style="color:windowtext;font-weight:normal;text-decoration:none">Ryan Huff<br>
</span><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">Sent:</span><span style="color:windowtext;font-weight:normal;text-decoration:none"> Tuesday, September 25, 2018 9:36 AM<br>
</span><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">To:</span><span style="color:windowtext;font-weight:normal;text-decoration:none"> Matt Jacobson <<u><span style="color:blue">m4ttjacobson@gmail.com</span></u>><br>
</span><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">Cc:</span><span style="color:windowtext;font-weight:normal;text-decoration:none">
<u><span style="color:blue">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</span></u><br>
</span><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">Subject:</span><span style="color:windowtext;font-weight:normal;text-decoration:none"> Re: [cisco-voip] Webex Teams Down<o:p></o:p></span></a></b></p>
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<p class="m6960549982050888655xmsonormal"><a href="https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdefang.bcbsfl.com%2Fdefang.php%3Furl%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Ffacebook.com%2Fheliontech&data=02%7C01%7C%7C88aac0c6ac994bb7387408d623005747%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636734881702624947&sdata=GclDqO3p1q%2BWUoIIZ2kmf3jixSHbukKmXTRc91SsvLM%3D&reserved=0" originalsrc="http://defang.bcbsfl.com/defang.php?url=https://facebook.com/heliontech" shash="dleQc/EKPE79fUo27qhHCq1s0kF74yzKfiqG21/Axp5zBTSXud3myzHrpVFyxvrf71A9peicdkTgTsRXlT8ySeUkelcLkSfKKM/gFFzmqwJwA+A9e/Xx3KjpLPTkXWuIfOpLrucidf0CFERn0uqMJz5M2+CgWAUe/FZLtGiT434=" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none"> <o:p></o:p></span></a></p>
<p class="m6960549982050888655xmsonormal"><a href="https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdefang.bcbsfl.com%2Fdefang.php%3Furl%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Ffacebook.com%2Fheliontech&data=02%7C01%7C%7C88aac0c6ac994bb7387408d623005747%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636734881702624947&sdata=GclDqO3p1q%2BWUoIIZ2kmf3jixSHbukKmXTRc91SsvLM%3D&reserved=0" originalsrc="http://defang.bcbsfl.com/defang.php?url=https://facebook.com/heliontech" shash="dleQc/EKPE79fUo27qhHCq1s0kF74yzKfiqG21/Axp5zBTSXud3myzHrpVFyxvrf71A9peicdkTgTsRXlT8ySeUkelcLkSfKKM/gFFzmqwJwA+A9e/Xx3KjpLPTkXWuIfOpLrucidf0CFERn0uqMJz5M2+CgWAUe/FZLtGiT434=" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">Who
wants to go in with me on creating an on-prem DR application for individual WebEx Teams domains? Lol ... the cloud ... yup, let’s do that ...
<o:p></o:p></span></a></p>
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<p class="m6960549982050888655xmsonormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><a href="https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdefang.bcbsfl.com%2Fdefang.php%3Furl%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Ffacebook.com%2Fheliontech&data=02%7C01%7C%7C88aac0c6ac994bb7387408d623005747%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636734881702624947&sdata=GclDqO3p1q%2BWUoIIZ2kmf3jixSHbukKmXTRc91SsvLM%3D&reserved=0" originalsrc="http://defang.bcbsfl.com/defang.php?url=https://facebook.com/heliontech" shash="dleQc/EKPE79fUo27qhHCq1s0kF74yzKfiqG21/Axp5zBTSXud3myzHrpVFyxvrf71A9peicdkTgTsRXlT8ySeUkelcLkSfKKM/gFFzmqwJwA+A9e/Xx3KjpLPTkXWuIfOpLrucidf0CFERn0uqMJz5M2+CgWAUe/FZLtGiT434=" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">The
cloud is a little like networking before segmentation .... anything impacts everything
</span><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif;color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">🤔</span><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none"><o:p></o:p></span></a></p>
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<p class="m6960549982050888655xmsonormal"><a href="https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdefang.bcbsfl.com%2Fdefang.php%3Furl%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Ffacebook.com%2Fheliontech&data=02%7C01%7C%7C88aac0c6ac994bb7387408d623005747%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636734881702781206&sdata=N2jmD4AVBYlwJVEVAoQVL6y3Yt2zsGtt1LW%2FudNUIms%3D&reserved=0" originalsrc="http://defang.bcbsfl.com/defang.php?url=https://facebook.com/heliontech" shash="roxsIRl7ImNIMObzM/zEzC/iahIyAhvmhZm/Nsy8b5CLSgWD6L8bY3vc9KDSKEZCouqUaAfK4GftXY/iPg0/KKYwpZSSbkBAQXQ+O192YO70ltVE65Du3iZOZMqtngkNgFkNB0S94sX/oHZFFnIyL9zSGhtsyD0I3xk8vUSWH0c=" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">The
only things I can think of that could possibly take this long would be like having to restore things from backup or waiting on uber large database indices to rebuild or reindex ..... hope things get restored soon!<o:p></o:p></span></a></p>
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<p class="m6960549982050888655xmsonormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><a href="https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdefang.bcbsfl.com%2Fdefang.php%3Furl%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Ffacebook.com%2Fheliontech&data=02%7C01%7C%7C88aac0c6ac994bb7387408d623005747%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636734881702781206&sdata=N2jmD4AVBYlwJVEVAoQVL6y3Yt2zsGtt1LW%2FudNUIms%3D&reserved=0" originalsrc="http://defang.bcbsfl.com/defang.php?url=https://facebook.com/heliontech" shash="roxsIRl7ImNIMObzM/zEzC/iahIyAhvmhZm/Nsy8b5CLSgWD6L8bY3vc9KDSKEZCouqUaAfK4GftXY/iPg0/KKYwpZSSbkBAQXQ+O192YO70ltVE65Du3iZOZMqtngkNgFkNB0S94sX/oHZFFnIyL9zSGhtsyD0I3xk8vUSWH0c=" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none"><br>
On Sep 25, 2018, at 07:22, Matt Jacobson <<u><span style="color:blue">m4ttjacobson@gmail.com</span></u>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></a></p>
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<p class="m6960549982050888655xmsonormal"><a href="https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdefang.bcbsfl.com%2Fdefang.php%3Furl%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Ffacebook.com%2Fheliontech&data=02%7C01%7C%7C88aac0c6ac994bb7387408d623005747%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636734881702781206&sdata=N2jmD4AVBYlwJVEVAoQVL6y3Yt2zsGtt1LW%2FudNUIms%3D&reserved=0" originalsrc="http://defang.bcbsfl.com/defang.php?url=https://facebook.com/heliontech" shash="roxsIRl7ImNIMObzM/zEzC/iahIyAhvmhZm/Nsy8b5CLSgWD6L8bY3vc9KDSKEZCouqUaAfK4GftXY/iPg0/KKYwpZSSbkBAQXQ+O192YO70ltVE65Du3iZOZMqtngkNgFkNB0S94sX/oHZFFnIyL9zSGhtsyD0I3xk8vUSWH0c=" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">Webex
meetings is still working, but you can’t dial in with video endpoints. <o:p></o:p></span></a></p>
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<p class="m6960549982050888655xmsonormal"><a href="https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdefang.bcbsfl.com%2Fdefang.php%3Furl%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Ffacebook.com%2Fheliontech&data=02%7C01%7C%7C88aac0c6ac994bb7387408d623005747%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636734881702781206&sdata=N2jmD4AVBYlwJVEVAoQVL6y3Yt2zsGtt1LW%2FudNUIms%3D&reserved=0" originalsrc="http://defang.bcbsfl.com/defang.php?url=https://facebook.com/heliontech" shash="roxsIRl7ImNIMObzM/zEzC/iahIyAhvmhZm/Nsy8b5CLSgWD6L8bY3vc9KDSKEZCouqUaAfK4GftXY/iPg0/KKYwpZSSbkBAQXQ+O192YO70ltVE65Du3iZOZMqtngkNgFkNB0S94sX/oHZFFnIyL9zSGhtsyD0I3xk8vUSWH0c=" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none"> <o:p></o:p></span></a></p>
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<p class="m6960549982050888655xmsonormal"><a href="https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdefang.bcbsfl.com%2Fdefang.php%3Furl%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Ffacebook.com%2Fheliontech&data=02%7C01%7C%7C88aac0c6ac994bb7387408d623005747%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636734881702781206&sdata=N2jmD4AVBYlwJVEVAoQVL6y3Yt2zsGtt1LW%2FudNUIms%3D&reserved=0" originalsrc="http://defang.bcbsfl.com/defang.php?url=https://facebook.com/heliontech" shash="roxsIRl7ImNIMObzM/zEzC/iahIyAhvmhZm/Nsy8b5CLSgWD6L8bY3vc9KDSKEZCouqUaAfK4GftXY/iPg0/KKYwpZSSbkBAQXQ+O192YO70ltVE65Du3iZOZMqtngkNgFkNB0S94sX/oHZFFnIyL9zSGhtsyD0I3xk8vUSWH0c=" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">On
Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 15:10 Bernhard Albler <<u><span style="color:blue">bernhard.albler@gmail.com</span></u>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></a></p>
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<p class="m6960549982050888655xmsonormal"><a href="https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdefang.bcbsfl.com%2Fdefang.php%3Furl%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Ffacebook.com%2Fheliontech&data=02%7C01%7C%7C88aac0c6ac994bb7387408d623005747%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636734881702781206&sdata=N2jmD4AVBYlwJVEVAoQVL6y3Yt2zsGtt1LW%2FudNUIms%3D&reserved=0" originalsrc="http://defang.bcbsfl.com/defang.php?url=https://facebook.com/heliontech" shash="roxsIRl7ImNIMObzM/zEzC/iahIyAhvmhZm/Nsy8b5CLSgWD6L8bY3vc9KDSKEZCouqUaAfK4GftXY/iPg0/KKYwpZSSbkBAQXQ+O192YO70ltVE65Du3iZOZMqtngkNgFkNB0S94sX/oHZFFnIyL9zSGhtsyD0I3xk8vUSWH0c=" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">yeah,
crazy outage, basically the full working day for us here in Europe<o:p></o:p></span></a></p>
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<p class="m6960549982050888655xmsonormal"><a href="https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdefang.bcbsfl.com%2Fdefang.php%3Furl%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Ffacebook.com%2Fheliontech&data=02%7C01%7C%7C88aac0c6ac994bb7387408d623005747%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636734881702781206&sdata=N2jmD4AVBYlwJVEVAoQVL6y3Yt2zsGtt1LW%2FudNUIms%3D&reserved=0" originalsrc="http://defang.bcbsfl.com/defang.php?url=https://facebook.com/heliontech" shash="roxsIRl7ImNIMObzM/zEzC/iahIyAhvmhZm/Nsy8b5CLSgWD6L8bY3vc9KDSKEZCouqUaAfK4GftXY/iPg0/KKYwpZSSbkBAQXQ+O192YO70ltVE65Du3iZOZMqtngkNgFkNB0S94sX/oHZFFnIyL9zSGhtsyD0I3xk8vUSWH0c=" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">it
also impacts CMR for customers on Video Platform v2 ( which should be most)<o:p></o:p></span></a></p>
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<p class="m6960549982050888655xmsonormal"><a href="https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdefang.bcbsfl.com%2Fdefang.php%3Furl%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Ffacebook.com%2Fheliontech&data=02%7C01%7C%7C88aac0c6ac994bb7387408d623005747%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636734881702781206&sdata=N2jmD4AVBYlwJVEVAoQVL6y3Yt2zsGtt1LW%2FudNUIms%3D&reserved=0" originalsrc="http://defang.bcbsfl.com/defang.php?url=https://facebook.com/heliontech" shash="roxsIRl7ImNIMObzM/zEzC/iahIyAhvmhZm/Nsy8b5CLSgWD6L8bY3vc9KDSKEZCouqUaAfK4GftXY/iPg0/KKYwpZSSbkBAQXQ+O192YO70ltVE65Du3iZOZMqtngkNgFkNB0S94sX/oHZFFnIyL9zSGhtsyD0I3xk8vUSWH0c=" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none"> <o:p></o:p></span></a></p>
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<p class="m6960549982050888655xmsonormal"><a href="https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdefang.bcbsfl.com%2Fdefang.php%3Furl%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Ffacebook.com%2Fheliontech&data=02%7C01%7C%7C88aac0c6ac994bb7387408d623005747%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636734881702781206&sdata=N2jmD4AVBYlwJVEVAoQVL6y3Yt2zsGtt1LW%2FudNUIms%3D&reserved=0" originalsrc="http://defang.bcbsfl.com/defang.php?url=https://facebook.com/heliontech" shash="roxsIRl7ImNIMObzM/zEzC/iahIyAhvmhZm/Nsy8b5CLSgWD6L8bY3vc9KDSKEZCouqUaAfK4GftXY/iPg0/KKYwpZSSbkBAQXQ+O192YO70ltVE65Du3iZOZMqtngkNgFkNB0S94sX/oHZFFnIyL9zSGhtsyD0I3xk8vUSWH0c=" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">On
Tue 25. Sep 2018 at 12:39, Ryan Huff <<u><span style="color:blue">ryanhuff@outlook.com</span></u>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></a></p>
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