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<p class="MsoNormal">I’m on dcloud now and Steve look happy.. lol</p>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Benjamin Turner <benmturner@hotmail.com><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 28, 2018 7:20:30 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ryan Huff<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Anthony Holloway; Cisco VoIP Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [cisco-voip] CCIEv2</font>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I will look into these options. But, the lab I have is nice with no tokens involved and all my work is saved.</p>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Ryan Huff <ryanhuff@outlook.com><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 28, 2018 7:13:34 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Benjamin Turner<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Anthony Holloway; Cisco VoIP Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] CCIEv2</font>
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<div>Speaking as someone who does have his own lab, (4351, c220, 2x3560-24ps) ... it really isn’t all that’s cracked up to be.
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<div>I feel like “Owning the lab” is one of those myths people chase and only want it until they have it (like owning a boat or in ground swimming pool). It sounds nice, till you realize the PITA it is to maintain.</div>
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<div>I find my self troubleshooting / changing “my lab” more than I use it.</div>
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<div>For the purposes of passing something like the CCIE, I would, as Anthony suggests, get a training partner that already has the equipment and is reasonably setup in a similar fashion to the lad. That way all you have to do is practice.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks Ryan, I will look into that too, but you got to admit… nothing like having your own lab.</p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 28, 2018 7:04:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Benjamin Turner<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Anthony Holloway; Cisco VoIP Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] CCIEv2</font>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks Anthony, I get you, but its damn near murder to get the ova and iso’s than it is I to get the hardware. Also, my lab has come in handy not just for the labs but for customer testing. I will look into a training partner like Vik (collab).
Just find it frustrating, almost like as if they are setting you up for failure.
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 28, 2018 6:00:42 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Benjamin Turner<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] CCIEv2</font>
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<div dir="auto">I feel your frustration, but this journey is not free, nor cheap. Get ready to sacrifice some shit, if you really want it.
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<div dir="auto">Also, I'm against building home labs for this specific journey. Just sign on with a training partner, and they'll have you covered. <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Why is it that I have to search and pay for useless ova’s and iso’s that don’t work for this test lab unless I have a Cisco customer contract? Demo licenses are free but CUCM Pub/SUB ova are not unless you have a contract.</p>
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