<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Esxi on dest only, os admin on source, it installs a cop file on source to pull the data. <br><br><div id="AppleMailSignature" dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br>On Oct 23, 2018, at 5:06 PM, Dave Goodwin <<a href="mailto:dave.goodwin@december.net">dave.goodwin@december.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="auto">I don’t have an easy way to check at the moment, but I think/hope that it’s not required on the source side of the migration, and it just uses OS credentials to send a shutdown. I know on the destination side ESXi is required, because it maps the ISO via NFS, powers up the VM, etc. </div></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 6:23 PM Matthew Loraditch <<a href="mailto:MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com">MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 23, 2018 6:21:49 PM<br>
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