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<p class="MsoNormal">In your example, the SERVER2 certificate in phone-vpn-trust is there because someone would have placed it there for some reason. Some additional info… certificates uploaded to the phone-vpn-trust store can be associated with a VPN gateway
in /ccmadmin. When assigned to a VPN-enabled phone through a common phone profile, a hash of the certificate is provided to the phone in its .cnf file. This certificate would/should be the same SSL cert assigned to the VPN gateway(s) configured. During the
TLS handshake between the phone and the ASA, the phone compares the SHA1 hash of the identity certificate it receives with the hash contained in its previously downloaded config file.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">With that said – <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="color:red">Why is there SERVER2.DER in the phone-vpn-trust store?
<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">DP: Likely someone placed it there.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="color:red">Is this expected? <o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">DP: Not by default.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="color:red">Does a phone contact SERVER2 while using the Phone VPN?
<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">DP: Only if SERVER2 is the VPN gateway. The phone uses the VPN gateway URL to determine where to connect, then compares the certificate hash during TLS negotiation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="color:red">Is there by default, or someone added, even by mistake?<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">DP: Added and (if SERVER2 is a UC server) likely by mistake.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hope this helps.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">- Dan<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> cisco-voip <cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>ROZA, Ariel<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 23, 2018 11:52 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> James Andrewartha <jandrewartha@ccgs.wa.edu.au>; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXT] Re: [cisco-voip] How to handle expired Phone-VPN-trust, phone-SAST-trust, other certificates<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">My main issue is not about the deletion process, but about the purpose and usefulness of each of those certificates. Being able to judge if it is good to delete or not certain certificates (even when expired).</span><span lang="ES-AR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="ES-AR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I have this guide:<br>
<a href="https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/unified-communications/unified-communications-manager-callmanager/200199-CUCM-Certificate-Regeneration-Renewal-Pr.htm">https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/unified-communications/unified-communications-manager-callmanager/200199-CUCM-Certificate-Regeneration-Renewal-Pr.htm</a></span><span lang="ES-AR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="ES-AR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">that gives a description of the purpose of each store, but it does not give specifics on why is there a particular certificate in a store. Ie. Why is there SERVER2.DER in the phone-vpn-trust store? Is this expected?
Does a phone contact SERVER2 while using the Phone VPN? Is there by default, or someone added, even by mistake?</span><span lang="ES-AR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="ES-AR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">And the expired certs that I have are not some that are renewable. All of them are in –trust stores.</span><span lang="ES-AR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="ES-AR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">So I am quite puzzled about them.</span><span lang="ES-AR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="ES-AR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>De:</b> cisco-voip [<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>]
<b>En nombre de </b>James Andrewartha<br>
<b>Enviado el:</b> martes, 23 de octubre de <span lang="ES">2018 12:39 a.m.<br>
<b>Para:</b> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
<b>Asunto:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] How to handle expired Phone-VPN-trust, phone-SAST-trust, other certificates</span><span lang="ES-AR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-AR"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-AR">And if you have any problems deleting them (I had one that just would not go away and gave me alarms for years), just call TAC and they'll take you through the SQL to kill them permanently.<br>
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On 23/10/18 03:08, NateCCIE wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-AR">The expired certs will throw alarms even if they have been superseded by newer certs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-AR"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-AR">So during a maintenance window, renew anything that is expired, and just delete all the old ones. The newer versions of cucm make this easier by being able to sort by expiration date.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-AR"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-AR">-Nate<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-AR"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ES-AR">From:</span></b><span lang="ES-AR"> cisco-voip
<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net"><cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net></a>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>ROZA, Ariel<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 22, 2018 11:52 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> cisco-voip (<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>)
<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net"><cisco-voip@puck.nether.net></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [cisco-voip] How to handle expired Phone-VPN-trust, phone-SAST-trust, other certificates<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-AR"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-AR" style="color:#1F497D">Hi, guys!</span><span lang="ES-AR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-AR" style="color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="ES-AR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-AR" style="color:#1F497D">I have a customer that is receiving alarms over some expired certificates, and I would like to know which is the best way to handle them.</span><span lang="ES-AR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-AR" style="color:#1F497D">The certs are loaded in SERVER1 and all named SERVER2.der, except the CAPF ones.</span><span lang="ES-AR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-AR" style="color:#1F497D"><servername>.der in phone-vpn-trust.
</span><span lang="ES-AR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-AR" style="color:#1F497D"><servername> .der in phone-trust</span><span lang="ES-AR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-AR" style="color:#1F497D"><servername>.der in phone-SAST-trust</span><span lang="ES-AR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-AR" style="color:#1F497D"><servername>.der in phone-CTL-trust</span><span lang="ES-AR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-AR" style="color:#1F497D">And several CAPF-xxxxxx.der in Callmanager-trust</span><span lang="ES-AR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-AR" style="color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="ES-AR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-AR" style="color:#1F497D">So far I have dealt with renewing Callmanager, TFTP and TVS cert, but I always kept clear from those other certs</span><span lang="ES-AR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-AR" style="color:#1F497D">Shoud I delete them, shoud I keep them, even as they are expired and throwing alarms?</span><span lang="ES-AR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-AR" style="color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="ES-AR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-AR" style="color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="ES-AR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-AR" style="color:#1F497D">Regards.</span><span lang="ES-AR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<pre><span lang="ES-AR">Ph. (08) 9442 1757<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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