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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Daniel,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I never thanked you for this info.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Yes, SERVER2 is an actual CUCM, so I presume it was put there by mistake. One thing I miss from the documentation is a reference default configuration of all the certs
in a cluster.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Thanks by the bucketload!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Ariel.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ES" style="color:windowtext">De:</span></b><span lang="ES" style="color:windowtext"> Daniel Pagan [mailto:dpagan@fidelus.com]
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<b>Enviado el:</b> jueves, 25 de octubre de 2018 10:09 a.m.<br>
<b>Para:</b> ROZA, Ariel <Ariel.ROZA@LA.LOGICALIS.COM>; James Andrewartha <jandrewartha@ccgs.wa.edu.au>; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Asunto:</b> RE: [EXT] Re: [cisco-voip] How to handle expired Phone-VPN-trust, phone-SAST-trust, other certificates<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">In your example, the SERVER2 certificate in phone-vpn-trust is there because someone would have placed it there for some reason. Some additional info… certificates uploaded to the phone-vpn-trust store can be associated
with a VPN gateway in /ccmadmin. When assigned to a VPN-enabled phone through a common phone profile, a hash of the certificate is provided to the phone in its .cnf file. This certificate would/should be the same SSL cert assigned to the VPN gateway(s) configured.
During the TLS handshake between the phone and the ASA, the phone compares the SHA1 hash of the identity certificate it receives with the hash contained in its previously downloaded config file.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">With that said – <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span lang="EN-US" style="color:red">Why is there SERVER2.DER in the phone-vpn-trust store?
<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">DP: Likely someone placed it there.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span lang="EN-US" style="color:red">Is this expected? <o:p>
</o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">DP: Not by default.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span lang="EN-US" style="color:red">Does a phone contact SERVER2 while using the Phone VPN?
<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">DP: Only if SERVER2 is the VPN gateway. The phone uses the VPN gateway URL to determine where to connect, then compares the certificate hash during TLS negotiation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span lang="EN-US" style="color:red">Is there by default, or someone added, even by mistake?<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">DP: Added and (if SERVER2 is a UC server) likely by mistake.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Hope this helps.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">- Dan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> cisco-voip <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>ROZA, Ariel<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 23, 2018 11:52 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> James Andrewartha <<a href="mailto:jandrewartha@ccgs.wa.edu.au">jandrewartha@ccgs.wa.edu.au</a>>;
<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXT] Re: [cisco-voip] How to handle expired Phone-VPN-trust, phone-SAST-trust, other certificates<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">My main issue is not about the deletion process, but about the purpose and usefulness of each of those certificates. Being able to judge if it is good to delete or not certain certificates (even
when expired).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">I have this guide:<br>
<a href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cisco.com%2Fc%2Fen%2Fus%2Fsupport%2Fdocs%2Funified-communications%2Funified-communications-manager-callmanager%2F200199-CUCM-Certificate-Regeneration-Renewal-Pr.htm&data=02%7C01%7CAriel.ROZA%40LA.LOGICALIS.COM%7C19f5c667111d4a9a6d6608d63a7b11a8%7C2e3290cb8d404058abe502c4f58b87e3%7C0%7C0%7C636760697594134119&sdata=%2F6ScEcs1JeCxB%2B5%2FsVDHMxcQJN%2FfNPJ8vmzC3ClizXM%3D&reserved=0">https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/unified-communications/unified-communications-manager-callmanager/200199-CUCM-Certificate-Regeneration-Renewal-Pr.htm</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">that gives a description of the purpose of each store, but it does not give specifics on why is there a particular certificate in a store. Ie. Why is there SERVER2.DER in the phone-vpn-trust store?
Is this expected? Does a phone contact SERVER2 while using the Phone VPN? Is there by default, or someone added, even by mistake?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">And the expired certs that I have are not some that are renewable. All of them are in –trust stores.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">So I am quite puzzled about them.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">De:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> cisco-voip [<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>]
<b>En nombre de </b>James Andrewartha<br>
<b>Enviado el:</b> martes, 23 de octubre de </span><span lang="ES">2018 12:39 a.m.<br>
<b>Para:</b> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
<b>Asunto:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] How to handle expired Phone-VPN-trust, phone-SAST-trust, other certificates</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">And if you have any problems deleting them (I had one that just would not go away and gave me alarms for years), just call TAC and they'll take you through the SQL to kill them permanently.<br>
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On 23/10/18 03:08, NateCCIE wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The expired certs will throw alarms even if they have been superseded by newer certs.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">So during a maintenance window, renew anything that is expired, and just delete all the old ones. The newer versions of cucm make this easier by being able to sort by expiration date.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">-Nate<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> cisco-voip <a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">
<cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net></a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>ROZA, Ariel<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 22, 2018 11:52 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> cisco-voip (<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>)
<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net"><cisco-voip@puck.nether.net></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [cisco-voip] How to handle expired Phone-VPN-trust, phone-SAST-trust, other certificates<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Hi, guys!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I have a customer that is receiving alarms over some expired certificates, and I would like to know which is the best way to handle them.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">The certs are loaded in SERVER1 and all named SERVER2.der, except the CAPF ones.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><servername>.der in phone-vpn-trust.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><servername> .der in phone-trust</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><servername>.der in phone-SAST-trust</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><servername>.der in phone-CTL-trust</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">And several CAPF-xxxxxx.der in Callmanager-trust</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">So far I have dealt with renewing Callmanager, TFTP and TVS cert, but I always kept clear from those other certs</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Shoud I delete them, shoud I keep them, even as they are expired and throwing alarms?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Regards.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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