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<p class="MsoNormal">Ok. This one goes out to the Cisco folks…<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Two compare pages:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Starting from: <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.cisco.com/c/en_ca/products/routers/4000-series-integrated-services-routers-isr/index.html">https://www.cisco.com/c/en_ca/products/routers/4000-series-integrated-services-routers-isr/index.html</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">compare button brings you to:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.cisco.com/c/en_ca/products/routers/4000-series-integrated-services-routers-isr/models-comparison.html">https://www.cisco.com/c/en_ca/products/routers/4000-series-integrated-services-routers-isr/models-comparison.html</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">this one shows only 5 products and different capacities.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Starting from<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/routers/4000-series-integrated-services-routers-isr/index.html">https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/routers/4000-series-integrated-services-routers-isr/index.html</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">compare button brings you to:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/routers/4000-series-integrated-services-routers-isr/models-comparison.html">https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/routers/4000-series-integrated-services-routers-isr/models-comparison.html</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">which shows 7 products and different capacities. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.</span></b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> | Senior Analyst<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Computing and Communications Services</span><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> | University of Guelph<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 |
<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.uoguelph.ca/ccs"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue">www.uoguelph.ca/ccs</span></a><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio@uoguelph.ca> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 5, 2019 5:32 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio@uoguelph.ca>; Matthew Loraditch <MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com>; voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: it's going to get expensive to support T1/PRIs going forward...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yup – definitely something awry with the compare page. I did a simple copy/paste into a spreadsheet and I have the 4451 supporting up to 2000 SRST, and now it’s at 1500.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Weird. Damn Friday.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.</span></b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> | Senior Analyst<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Computing and Communications Services</span><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> | University of Guelph<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 |
<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.uoguelph.ca/ccs"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue">www.uoguelph.ca/ccs</span></a><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><img border="0" width="187" height="100" style="width:1.9479in;height:1.0416in" id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image001.png@01D4EBD5.FC2F0B90" alt="University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline"><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> cisco-voip <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Lelio Fulgenzi<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 5, 2019 5:23 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Matthew Loraditch <<a href="mailto:MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com">MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com</a>>; voyp list, cisco-voip (<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>) <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] it's going to get expensive to support T1/PRIs going forward...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Interesting. I’ll have to do some more reading. I read Jan 2019 at the top of that FAQ. But it’s Jan 2018. That being said, the data sheet is older than the FAQ.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It’s too bad the compare products sheet doesn’t have the modules listed. I did try to configure a 4331 with a T1 module and they do show up, so that’s good.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i>Of more interest is that either someone at Cisco just updated some web pages or I stumble across an old link, since the 4461 just appeared on the pages!<o:p></o:p></i></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">And I swear I did not see T1s listed in the compare products, but now they do!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.</span></b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> | Senior Analyst<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Computing and Communications Services</span><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> | University of Guelph<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 |
<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.uoguelph.ca/ccs"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue">www.uoguelph.ca/ccs</span></a><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><img border="0" width="187" height="100" style="width:1.9479in;height:1.0416in" id="_x0000_i1026" src="cid:image001.png@01D4EBD5.FC2F0B90" alt="University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline"><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Matthew Loraditch <<a href="mailto:MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com">MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 5, 2019 5:07 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Lelio Fulgenzi <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>>; voyp list, cisco-voip (<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>) <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: it's going to get expensive to support T1/PRIs going forward...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">That’s not correct. You can do a T1 on 4321s and up.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">That’s a very old FAQ from before the 43XXs were out.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/routers/4000-series-integrated-services-routers-isr/data_sheet_c78-728308.html?referring_site=RE&pos=1&page=https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/routers/4000-series-integrated-services-routers-isr/qa_c67-728823.html">https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/routers/4000-series-integrated-services-routers-isr/data_sheet_c78-728308.html?referring_site=RE&pos=1&page=https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/routers/4000-series-integrated-services-routers-isr/qa_c67-728823.html</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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“<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#525252">The modules are supported on the
<b><i>Cisco 4000</i></b> and require Cisco IOS XE Software Release 3.9.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#525252">The DSP farm services (conferencing & transcoding) on the modules are supported only on Release 3.11 and above.”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> cisco-voip <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Lelio Fulgenzi<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 5, 2019 5:02 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> voyp list, cisco-voip (<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>) <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [cisco-voip] it's going to get expensive to support T1/PRIs going forward...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">OK, I knew the writing was on the wall, but I didn’t think I’d be forced to buy the most expensive ISR4K out there, just to support T1/PRIs.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/routers/4000-series-integrated-services-routers-isr/qa_c67-728823.html">https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/routers/4000-series-integrated-services-routers-isr/qa_c67-728823.html</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Cisco Fourth Generation 1-, 2-, 4-, and 8-Port T1/E1 Multiflex Trunk Voice/WAN Network Interface Modules FAQ<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Q. What version of Cisco IOS ® Software is required for supporting the Cisco NIM MFT cards, and what are the Cisco IOS Software license requirements?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">A. The Cisco 1-, 2-, 4-, and 8-port NIM cards are supported only on the Cisco 4451-X ISR. The modules are supported only with Cisco IOS XE 3.9.1.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Data applications require a minimum of the IP Base Technology Package, and voice applications require a minimum of the Unified Communications Technology Package.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.</span></b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> | Senior Analyst<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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