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<p class="MsoNormal">Actually – I think that’s in the steps somewhere. I read that I think.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.</span></b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> | Senior Analyst<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Computing and Communications Services</span><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> | University of Guelph<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Ryan Huff <ryanhuff@outlook.com> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 28, 2019 2:19 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio@uoguelph.ca><br>
<b>Cc:</b> NateCCIE <nateccie@gmail.com>; Bill Talley <btalley@gmail.com>; voyp list, cisco-voip <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] IM&P Upgrade Steps during CUCM upgrade<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Actually, I prefer to disable IMP HA before installing in the inactive PT. This way, if you have to flip back to the other partition for some reason, IMP is already in an “HA disabled” state, which tends to
make IMP recover a little better in my experience. Then just enable HA once everything is stable.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Ryan<o:p></o:p></p>
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On May 28, 2019, at 14:03, Lelio Fulgenzi <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Personally, I hate the fact that IM&P can’t be restarted without first disabling HA. So basically, if you have an unattended restart, you have to go in and make configuration changes.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yuck.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.</span></b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> | Senior Analyst</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Computing and Communications Services</span><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> | University of Guelph</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 |
<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca"><span style="color:#0563C1">lelio@uoguelph.ca</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> NateCCIE <<a href="mailto:nateccie@gmail.com">nateccie@gmail.com</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 28, 2019 12:46 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Lelio Fulgenzi <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>>; 'Bill Talley' <<a href="mailto:btalley@gmail.com">btalley@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'voyp list, cisco-voip' <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [cisco-voip] IM&P Upgrade Steps during CUCM upgrade<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yeah, I HATE this bug. Why in the world can’t the docwiki or what ever it’s called be updated quicker than a bug be filed/made universally known, and who came up with these recommendations TAC or the BU.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">But I have seem IMP just not start services, and adding resources magic fix it.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> cisco-voip <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Lelio Fulgenzi<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 28, 2019 9:46 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Bill Talley <<a href="mailto:btalley@gmail.com">btalley@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> voyp list, cisco-voip (<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>) <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] IM&P Upgrade Steps during CUCM upgrade<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">In the words of the immortal Chris Farley….<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:24.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">holy schnikes</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:top"><i>If possible, it is recommended to have 4vCPU and 8 GB RAM as we are seeing more cases with high CPU due to resources related.</i><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">They want 4 vCPU if possible? They think these things grow on trees?
<span style="font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif">😊</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Right now, our two IMP servers are at 2 vCPU and 4GB of RAM. (5000 user OVA).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I’ll have to see about coordinating this change as well. We don’t have a lot of capacity/activity on these servers, so I think we should be OK for now.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Funny thing – Bug updated May 20, 2019, but virtualization docs still show old OVA information.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.</span></b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> | Senior Analyst</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Computing and Communications Services</span><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> | University of Guelph</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 |
<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca"><span style="color:#0563C1">lelio@uoguelph.ca</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Bill Talley <<a href="mailto:btalley@gmail.com">btalley@gmail.com</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 28, 2019 11:08 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Lelio Fulgenzi <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> voyp list, cisco-voip (<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>) <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] IM&P Upgrade Steps during CUCM upgrade<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">That’s the process I typically follow without issues.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Also, I can’t recall if this was posted here, but wanted to make sure you’ve seen the recent changes to resource requirements for IM&P. This may not apply to you if you have more than 5000 users.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">IM&P VM resource requirements needs to be updated<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">CSCvk65006<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="description"><b><span style="color:black">Description</span></b></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:top"><b>Symptom:</b><br>
IM&P version 11.5.1.x or 12.0.1.x installed using one of the following configuration:<br>
150 users (Full UC) 1vCPU 2 GB RAM<br>
1,000 users (Full UC) 1vCPU 4 GB RAM<br>
5,000 users (Full UC) 2vCPU 4 GB RAM<br>
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Customers with any of the above configuration might notice an increase use of CPU and Memory resources.<br>
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This can be fixed by manually increasing the resources according to the table below:<br>
150 users (Full UC) 2vCPU 8 GB RAM<br>
1,000 users (Full UC) 2vCPU 8 GB RAM<br>
5,000 users (Full UC) 2vCPU 8 GB RAM<br>
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<b>Conditions:</b><br>
Performance Issues<br>
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<b>Workaround:</b><br>
Manually increase resources according to the table below:<br>
150 users (Full UC) 2vCPU 8 GB RAM<br>
1,000 users (Full UC) 2vCPU 8 GB RAM<br>
5,000 users (Full UC) 2vCPU 8 GB RAM<br>
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If possible, it is recommended to have 4vCPU and 8 GB RAM as we are seeing more cases with high CPU due to resources related.<o:p></o:p></p>
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On May 28, 2019, at 8:47 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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I'm reading the upgrade guide, specifically, the time sequencing:<br>
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and it mentions upgrading the IM&P publisher (to inactive partition) at the same time as upgrading the subscribers. Then doing a switch version on the IMP pub at the same time as the CUCM subs.<br>
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Anyone do this parallel type upgrade before?<br>
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Sure would save a lot of time.<br>
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Lelio<br>
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Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph<br>
Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1<br>
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