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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> cisco-voip <cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Lelio Fulgenzi<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 15, 2019 10:32 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Matthew Loraditch <MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com>; Anthony Holloway <avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com>; Ryan Huff <ryanhuff@outlook.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Charles Goldsmith <w@woka.us>; cisco-voip voyp list <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM SU release cycle<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It just means people are now going to make up their own upgrade cycle in their head based on what we hear. Waiting until SU2 maybe? Who knows.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.</span></b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> | Senior Analyst<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> cisco-voip <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Matthew Loraditch<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 15, 2019 10:20 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Anthony Holloway <<a href="mailto:avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>>; Ryan Huff <<a href="mailto:ryanhuff@outlook.com">ryanhuff@outlook.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Charles Goldsmith <<a href="mailto:w@woka.us">w@woka.us</a>>; cisco-voip voyp list <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM SU release cycle<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I heard this in a preso. Customers were not moving to .0 releases because they were perceived to be bad and waiting for .5 or .1 type releases. The defect rates though are not much if any different these days and they won’t want to be making
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> cisco-voip <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Anthony Holloway<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 15, 2019 10:16 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ryan Huff <<a href="mailto:ryanhuff@outlook.com">ryanhuff@outlook.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Charles Goldsmith <<a href="mailto:w@woka.us">w@woka.us</a>>; cisco-voip voyp list <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM SU release cycle<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">But seriously though, anyone got a reference to this announcement? I didn't see it in the cisco live preso linked earlier.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 5:40 AM Ryan Huff <<a href="mailto:ryanhuff@outlook.com">ryanhuff@outlook.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 10:58 PM Ki Wi <<a href="mailto:kiwi.voice@gmail.com" target="_blank">kiwi.voice@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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