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<p class="MsoNormal">I heard this in a preso. Customers were not moving to .0 releases because they were perceived to be bad and waiting for .5 or .1 type releases. The defect rates though are not much if any different these days and they won’t want to be making
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Anthony Holloway<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 15, 2019 10:16 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ryan Huff <ryanhuff@outlook.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Charles Goldsmith <w@woka.us>; cisco-voip voyp list <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM SU release cycle<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Why not just all Major versions all the time? Google Chrome is on version 76.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">But seriously though, anyone got a reference to this announcement? I didn't see it in the cisco live preso linked earlier.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If not, what's the reported reason for dropping minor release numbers?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 5:40 AM Ryan Huff <<a href="mailto:ryanhuff@outlook.com">ryanhuff@outlook.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">After 12.5, no more “.5” releases, it’ll just be major versions (and the SUs in between). After 12.5 we skip 13 and go right to 14 (then presumably, 15 after that).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">On Aug 15, 2019, at 02:05, Anthony Holloway <<a href="mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">What's going on with .5 releases? I don't think I heard about that.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 11:16 PM Charles Goldsmith <<a href="mailto:w@woka.us" target="_blank">w@woka.us</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yeah, I think with the move away from the .5 releases, we'll be getting more SU's and less major releases.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 10:58 PM Ki Wi <<a href="mailto:kiwi.voice@gmail.com" target="_blank">kiwi.voice@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">in the past , the SU release is every 6 months (usually longer than that, approximately twice a year maximum) but now Cisco is changing to every 2 months? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Reference : Page 20 of the link <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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