<div dir="ltr">I think everyone is just guessing what NC stands for. I'd like to think it's because it's Not Complete, and you have to build it yourself like a piece of Ikea furniture.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:59 PM James Buchanan <<a href="mailto:james.buchanan2@gmail.com">james.buchanan2@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hello,</div><div><br></div><div>With much searching, this site: <a href="https://itprice.com/cisco/cp-8845-nc-k9=.html" target="_blank">https://itprice.com/cisco/cp-8845-nc-k9=.html</a> indicates that the "NC" phone is "Non-China" Country of Origin. I don't know that for sure, but I thought it was an interesting, undocumented interpretation. At least it would explain why it's more expensive.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div><br></div><div>James<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 8:47 PM Pawlowski, Adam <<a href="mailto:ajp26@buffalo.edu" target="_blank">ajp26@buffalo.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">Slightly bigger screen, and no USB port.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">I still don’t know why you’d want that unless you need Bluetooth are still security minded (?), or you use the wall mount kit and want the same appearance everywhere?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">Also I assume it can receive video so it can be used in a lobby or sensitive area if you do enough video calling and have something to see.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">The camera feels like you can snap it off pretty easily anyways.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">In actuality, the 8845 includes: Integrated Bluetooth + Intelligent Proximity over what an 8841 has.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">From the brochure:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">But isn't an 8845 without a camera basically an 8841? ... The use case for such a device would have to be unbelievably slim, surely...<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:30 PM Lelio Fulgenzi <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">More and more odd, when I searched for that part number, I couldn't find it.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Could it be a No Camera option, since it seems to only be coming up on phones that normally have a camera?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The 8865 has a -nc but the 8851 does not<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:05 PM Lelio Fulgenzi <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I see it in ccw. The description is a little different. IP phone vs UC Phone.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> cisco-voip <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Charles Goldsmith<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 17, 2019 2:57 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I can't find that part number in CCW at all, and I was thinking of the NR version, which is no radio anyway.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Lelio, where did you see CP-8845-NC-K9?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">But I thought K9 means "strong crypto"? So NC-K9 is "no crypto *and* strong crypto"????<br>
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> On Sep 13, 2019, at 4:24 PM, Myron Young <<a href="mailto:mdavid_young@hotmail.com" target="_blank">mdavid_young@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Maybe this is a silly question, but why would anyone want a no crypto phone?<br>
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>> On Sep 13, 2019, at 4:09 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> From: Charles Goldsmith <<a href="mailto:wokka@justfamily.org" target="_blank">wokka@justfamily.org</a>><br>
>> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2019 4:05 PM<br>
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>> No crypto<br>
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>>> On Sep 13, 2019, at 3:02 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>> wrote:<br>
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>>> Anyone know what the NC model of phones are?<br>
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>>> There's the CP-8845-K9=, but also the CP-8845-NC-K9=. And the NC version is more expensive with a longer lead time.<br>
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>>> Can't find any details on the datasheet or any google search.<br>
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