<div dir="ltr">OK, my counter part had an open ticket with TAC on using Jabber in an extension mobility environment, and gave us this work around.  Seems to be working for us:<div>***** Response *****</div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">As we discussed, for Jabber side possibly the requirement is
that the phone device is not assigned with an extension, which makes the issue
with the UCC. <br>
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As tested in lab, I was able to assign an extension mobility profile the same
way we can for a deskphone. Here below are the steps I took. Please let me know
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1. Created a new EM profile: <br>
               
CUCM >> Device >> Device Settings >> Device Profile >>
Add New >> Device Profile Type: Cisco Unified Client Services Framework
>> I used all default settings with the exception of the Login User ID –
my test user ID “kivanov5” <br>
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2. Created a new CSF using default settings. Did not assign a line. I only
assigned the test user for it as owner and selected the EM profile: <br>
<img width="815" height="648" style="height: 6.75in; width: 8.491in;" border="0"> <br>
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3. In the End User page I just selected the EM Profile </p>

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Using these settings above I was able to sign in Jabber with my test user and
the softphone was just working. From End User perspective, I don’t think there
would be a noticeable difference. When dialing another test user the caller ID
was showing the extension of the Extension Mobility profile. <br>
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Try it and let me know if that may be working for you! </p>

<span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Kind regards,</span>    <br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 3:09 PM Lelio Fulgenzi <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">



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We’ve been using multi-line on Jabber for a bit. Actually, multi-shared-line (as a secondary dn). Works great as far as I can tell. Still no experience with UCCx though. 
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<div>I suspect, agent DN as primary, personal as secondary, vm configured for personal mailbox, would work great. </div>
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<div>Of course, we’re using shred agent logins. Not sure how well that will work. </div>
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<div>P. S. One thing with shared multi line on Jabber... if someone puts a call on hold on the shared line, it appears on Jabber. On everyone’s Jabber. As far as I can tell. Need to do more investigation. <br>
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On Oct 18, 2019, at 5:56 PM, Tim Smith <<a href="mailto:tim.smith@enject.com.au" target="_blank">tim.smith@enject.com.au</a>> wrote:<br>
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Is anyone doing multi line on Jabber yet?</div>
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I’ve always thought dedicated UCCX line is best?</div>
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Just have one on phone, different one on Jabber</div>
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Login to wherever you want to answer calls</div>
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It’s unlikely to be desk and softphone at same time (and if it is then use CTI instead)</div>
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Dedicated line then gets rid of all the other UCCX line restrictions, and it doesn’t matter what this DN number is.</div>
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Give them a personal DN if required.</div>
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If it’s just a dedicated contact centre they may not even need a personal DN</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, October 19, 2019 6:49:42 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Lelio Fulgenzi <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>>; Johnson, Tim <<a href="mailto:johns10t@cmich.edu" target="_blank">johns10t@cmich.edu</a>>; voyp list, cisco-voip (<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>)
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] UCCx and Jabber - compatible or not?</font>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Correct. CSF/TAB/TCT is to use Jabber as a softphone not deskphone control.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Lelio Fulgenzi <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 18, 2019 3:36 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Matthew Loraditch <<a href="mailto:MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com" target="_blank">MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com</a>>; Johnson, Tim <<a href="mailto:johns10t@cmich.edu" target="_blank">johns10t@cmich.edu</a>>; voyp list, cisco-voip (<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>)
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<b>Subject:</b> RE: UCCx and Jabber - compatible or not?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Ok, now you’re really freaking me out.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i>You don’t need a CSF device to log in with Jabber?<u></u><u></u></i></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 18, 2019 3:32 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Johnson, Tim <<a href="mailto:johns10t@cmich.edu" target="_blank">johns10t@cmich.edu</a>>; Lelio Fulgenzi <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>>; voyp list, cisco-voip (<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>)
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<b>Subject:</b> RE: UCCx and Jabber - compatible or not?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yeah just don’t create one if you don’t like having them blank. You don’t need a CSF for deskphone control.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 18, 2019 3:30 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Lelio Fulgenzi <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>>; Matthew Loraditch <<a href="mailto:MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com" target="_blank">MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com</a>>; voyp list, cisco-voip (<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>)
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<b>Subject:</b> RE: UCCx and Jabber - compatible or not?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yeah, just don’t have a CSF device assigned to that user. Or, if you do have a CSF device for that user, make sure their IPCC extension is not assigned to it.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Lelio Fulgenzi<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 18, 2019 3:30 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Matthew Loraditch <<a href="mailto:MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com" target="_blank">MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com</a>>; voyp list, cisco-voip (<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>) <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] UCCx and Jabber - compatible or not?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 18, 2019 3:28 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Lelio Fulgenzi <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>>; voyp list, cisco-voip (<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>) <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: UCCx and Jabber - compatible or not?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Correct. If you have agents who want to  use Jabber and have a hardphone DO NOT put their agent DN on any other device. If you search the DN in CUCM you need to see that DN associated to only a single device
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 18, 2019 3:26 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Matthew Loraditch <<a href="mailto:MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com" target="_blank">MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com</a>>; voyp list, cisco-voip (<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>) <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: UCCx and Jabber - compatible or not?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i>Yes jabber in deskphone control mode is ok. Jabber is not operating as a softphone in that mode and breaks no UCCX “rules”<u></u><u></u></i></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">In this case, do I have to make sure not to program a DN on Jabber?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.</span></b><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> | Senior Analyst<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Computing and Communications Services</span><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> | University of Guelph<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Matthew Loraditch <<a href="mailto:MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com" target="_blank">MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 18, 2019 3:24 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Lelio Fulgenzi <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>>; voyp list, cisco-voip (<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>) <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: UCCx and Jabber - compatible or not?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">LOL<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yes Historically you were good with the hardphone and CIPC b/c you can use ext. mobility on both to get you extension and from a UCCX perspective said extension was only on one device in CUCM.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yes jabber in deskphone control mode is ok. Jabber is not operating as a softphone in that mode and breaks no UCCX “rules”<u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 18, 2019 3:17 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Matthew Loraditch <<a href="mailto:MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com" target="_blank">MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com</a>>; voyp list, cisco-voip (<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>) <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: UCCx and Jabber - compatible or not?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Oh yeah – I remember that session. It was great. But not as good as the session where I raised my hand and asked when they were gonna get rid of that final cable from the room kit to the touch 10.
<span style="font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif">😉</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">But, I digress.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">So, historically, are you saying then, that one could have a hardphone with an agent extension and use CIPC with extension mobility and activate that same agent extension on CIPC and things would work and it was supported?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">From your last statement, “Jabber CTI control is kosher and has no bearing on this issue.” , are you implying I could install Jabber and modify the call settings to use the hard phone and it _<i>would</i>_ work?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Matthew Loraditch <<a href="mailto:MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com" target="_blank">MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 18, 2019 3:07 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Lelio Fulgenzi <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>>; voyp list, cisco-voip (<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>) <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: UCCx and Jabber - compatible or not?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The problem is workers who have a deskphone and also need to use a softphone occasionally or vice-versa.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">An agent extension can only be programmed on one device in all of CUCM.
<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Previously the above situation could be handled by CIPC as extension mobility is supported.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Jabber does not and will not support extension mobility as a softphone.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">UCCX says that supporting an agent extension on multiple devices is extremely difficult to fix<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I can’t remember if you were in those sessions at Cisco Live with me or not but it was a fun little it’s not my problem scenario from the two BUs in some of the sessions asking how they were going to fix this.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Jabber CTI control is kosher and has no bearing on this issue.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> cisco-voip <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Lelio Fulgenzi<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 18, 2019 2:55 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> voyp list, cisco-voip (<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>) <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [cisco-voip] UCCx and Jabber - compatible or not?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I’ve heard all the rumblings with UCCx and Jabber. But I’m hoping someone can explain to me what exactly the problem is. From what I understand, there is not an actual incompatibility with UCCx and Jabber, just with some deployment methods
 and some restrictions UCCx places on things.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i>So, in simplest terms, if you have a desktop agent, with Jabber (4Win) running and only one (agent) extension and no other device has that extension, things work.<u></u><u></u></i></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I believe it’s when you try to do anything else other than this simple deployment that things go awry. Say, have both Jabber and a hard phone and log into your queue using a phone agent on the hard phone but want to use Jabber to answer.
 Or you want Jabber to control your hard phone. Etc.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Can I get some ideas as to whether this is true and where people have seen trouble? And what is actually supported?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Lelio<u></u><u></u></p>
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