<div dir="ltr">The why is simple: I feel like I'm above the law, and want an explicit way to work around it. ;)</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 9:43 AM Tanner Ezell <<a href="mailto:tanner.ezell@gmail.com">tanner.ezell@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">It tracks because it executes each step individually, there's probably a way to reset the counter but it begs the question, why? How often are you exceeding step limits, and why? If you really keep hitting the limit, just up it. There can't be a measurable performance impact in doing so.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 8:37 AM Anthony Holloway <<a href="mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Tanner, thanks for the backing on that. I have a strange question/request for you: can you tell us how the system is even tracking the total steps executed, and what possible ways in which we can defeat it? I.e., Using Do steps instead of multiple Set steps, or Using Trigger Application instead of Call Subflow.<div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 8:05 AM Tanner Ezell <<a href="mailto:tanner.ezell@gmail.com" target="_blank">tanner.ezell@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I'll echo Anthony, never used separate CCG's for CCB. There's no technical reason to do so either outside of perhaps some strange setup going on in the CUCM.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 6:17 AM Johnson, Tim <<a href="mailto:johns10t@cmich.edu" target="_blank">johns10t@cmich.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for all of the feedback here. Maybe I’ll try using the same CCG & DG to see how it goes. Here’s also where it was mentioned about using separate CCG:
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<p class="MsoNormal">As for this new secret, I’m not quite sure I understand how that would be done, but I am intrigued.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Lelio Fulgenzi<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 5, 2019 10:24 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Tanner Ezell <<a href="mailto:tanner.ezell@gmail.com" target="_blank">tanner.ezell@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> voyp list, cisco-voip (<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>) <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] UCCX Callback Script<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><i>Your abbreviation of easy peasy has won me over. </i><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Pssshhht....I'll share a "secret" for playing the agent menu only when the agent answers..
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<p class="MsoNormal">Pass the contact to the agent script, then play your agent menu after they connect.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 2:54 PM Brian Meade <<a href="mailto:bmeade90@vt.edu" target="_blank">bmeade90@vt.edu</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'm curious how you handle catching when the agent answers the callback request.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I've got my scripts checking to see if the CallBack contact was answered by setting some Enterprise Info in my callback queue script but I still have to check every few seconds to see if that Enterprise Info is set.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I just max out the max steps to account for that.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I think the idea of a flawless script is in the eyes of the beholder.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I don't personally use the example script from the repo; are you talking about the one here:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If so, there a few things wrong with that script.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">For example, you said "...despite having Contact Inactive exception error handling..."<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yeah, they setup an exception handler at the top for ContactInactiveException, but then they never clear it, or reset it, and so if and when the caller disconnects while recording their message or listening to the "success" prompt, the
whole thing falls a part and fails, sending script execution down to the ExceptionCIE label.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Another thing wrong with it is that the waiting mechanism for the Agent is such that it plays a relatively short prompt, waits 3 seconds for input from the Agent, then repeats.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If you consider every application has a max 1,000 steps it can execute, and you subtract off the overhead of just getting the call to this point (say 21 steps in the most streamlined of scenarios), that leaves you with 32 minutes to queue
a call, otherwise the call will be aborted. Since most people are only interested in callback when they have queue hold time problems, this is likely to cause more issues than it solves.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">"...I’ve read that the Call Control Group and Dialog Group should be different from the trigger on the originating application..."<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Anyone have a callback script that is working flawlessly? We have implemented the solution in Cisco’s Advanced Queueing script and it’s seems to be working, but I’m seeing Contact
Inactive Exceptions and Contact Creation errors in syslog each time the callback is used, despite having Contact Inactive exception error handling.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It seems that the issue may be related to the Place Call step which calls the trigger of the callback application. I’ve read that the Call Control Group and Dialog Group should
be different from the trigger on the originating application (which is what we have setup), but I’m curious if those should also be different from what’s used on the callback application. If so, can I use the same CCG and DG from the original trigger, on the
callback trigger?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">For example, I have the following setup:
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application which has a trigger that uses CCG #25 and Dialog Group #3.<u></u><u></u></p>
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