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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">If anything like this farts up on us then I usually remove it from the Expressway and put it back. It doesn’t really cause a ton of harm to do so and seems to
clear a lot of issues.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Troubleshooting certificate issues ends up being kind of obnoxious as I’ve yet to find any debugging that really expands on the fault errors that you can see in the event log.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">If this were me and I ran into “Decryption Error” and not a validation error, I’d be looking at say the default TLS level and ciphers as they may have changed
between 8.7 -> 12.5. I know it’s default TLS 1.2 at this point. I’d actually just changed the s_channel string or what have you to try and eliminate the ciphers flagged for no forward secrecy and it broke MRA for me as well. I got “Internal Server Error” back
in Jabber. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I don’t know if it enforces key lengths on the certificates at this point either but that’s where I’d go with this one personally.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Adam<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> cisco-voip <cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jonathan Charles<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 18, 2019 12:24 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ryan Huff <ryanhuff@outlook.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] VCS Expressway upgrade, 8.7 to 12.5<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">So, just an FYI, with MRA down, we rolled back to 8.7.3... going to try this again next Friday...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Should we try going to an intermediate version first, say, 8.11 or something?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Jonathan<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 6:15 PM Jonathan Charles <<a href="mailto:jonvoip@gmail.com">jonvoip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Loaded the local certs... no joy...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Jonathan<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Have you tried adding the IMP identity cert into the Expressway trust? It shouldn’t have to work that way, but if it does, might point to an issue with how the CA chain is being recognized in the trust.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Also, make sure to do a full reboot of the Expressway node after adding certs into the truststore (again, you shouldn’t have to do that but I’ve seen this work before).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">When I try to refresh the IMP nodes, I get Failed: Unable to communicate with [[IMPNODE] CryptoError: Decryption failure.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 5:54 PM Jonathan Charles <<a href="mailto:jonvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank">jonvoip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I re-uploaded the root and intermediate CA certificate... still get the same error...
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<p class="MsoNormal">I also tried adding a new AXL user... same error...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 5:48 PM Ryan Huff <<a href="mailto:ryanhuff@outlook.com" target="_blank">ryanhuff@outlook.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Likely certificate / trust issues..<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yep, we are running into clustering issues... <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Getting <strong><span style="font-family:CiscoSans;color:#58585B">Inactive: (Remote host is reachable but connection is not established. Either refresh this page, or check the credentials.)</span></strong><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:CiscoSans;color:#58585B">For IMP connection, so MRA is down...</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Still looking for a fix...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 7:17 PM Erick Bergquist <<a href="mailto:erickbee@gmail.com" target="_blank">erickbee@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I’ve done 2 8.11.x to 12.5.5 fine (clustered setup, 4). There is a bug with clustering to watch out for but I did not encounter it. The 12.5 Cisco download page has a note and link about this. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Currently working on jabberd process high memory consumption issue on one node that has been present since 8.11.x which 12.5 had memory leak fix for but still an issue. Slow memory increase over time just on one of the edge nodes. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 3:28 PM Matt Jacobson <<a href="mailto:m4ttjacobson@gmail.com" target="_blank">m4ttjacobson@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If that is the case, then I would double check that it is supported. In the release notes there is a chart for supported platforms based on serial numbers. If it is a legacy Tandberg box, then I suspect 12.x may not work out for you.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 14:30 Jonathan Charles <<a href="mailto:jonvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank">jonvoip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This is a legacy Tandberg VCS for video only... no MRA, no remote phones... just inbound and outbound sip video...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 12:44 PM Pawlowski, Adam <<a href="mailto:ajp26@buffalo.edu" target="_blank">ajp26@buffalo.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">We’re at 12.5.3 and probably moving to 12.5.5/12.5.6 somewhere in the Holiday timeframe when everything
quiets down a bit.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">There hasn’t been really any significant issue upgrading from 8 -> 12, but there have been a couple
of bugs that largely are all resolved by deleting and rebuilding whatever the thing is that is misbehaving.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">The requirement for the _<i>cup</i>_login and _cisco-uds SRVs went away though it still endlessly logs
a warning about not finding them, but it will work.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">You do also gain the ability to play with the openssl cipher strings but in my limited experience trying
to change those to bump them up a notch, it ends up breaking XMPP or something.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> cisco-voip <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jonathan Charles<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 15, 2019 11:59 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ryan Huff <<a href="mailto:ryanhuff@outlook.com" target="_blank">ryanhuff@outlook.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] VCS Expressway upgrade, 8.7 to 12.5</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thanks, the latest is 12.5.6, released last week, I am avoiding it like the plague...and the bug fix doesn't apply to us.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I am going with 12.5.5 (released in August).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I already have release keys (Cisco AM sent them over)...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hybrid services are on a separate VCS-C that is already 12.5.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">My plan is to get new certs if we have any issues<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 10:46 AM Ryan Huff <<a href="mailto:ryanhuff@outlook.com" target="_blank">ryanhuff@outlook.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">A couple of thoughts for you...</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Get the software release key for 12.x now (you'll be asked to enter it during the upgrade in the GUI). You'll need to work with TAC > GLO for this if (and I assume this would be your case) the existing 8.7 serial
is active in Cisco's licensing system. The caveat to trying to do this with Cisco's self-service license re-host tool is that while the 8.7 serial is active, it won't allow you to assign the new 12.x software release PAK to the serial because the serial is
already assigned to another software release key.</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Take a backup first, your only roll back option is to re-install 8.7 and restore the backup.</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Your VMware Hypervisor needs to be 6.0/5/7.</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">If you have Hybrid Services configured, make sure the management connector is up to date first.</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">SSL Certificate validation changed a bit in 8.8+</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Verify proper forward / reverse DNS for all the relevant touch points</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l3 level2 lfo6;background:white">
<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Make sure the Expressway certificate trust is up-to-date with all the current CUCM,CUC,IMP identity certificates (self-signed) or CA certificates (public CA signed certificates).</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l3 level2 lfo6;background:white">
<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">no duplicate certificates in the Expressway trusts</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Beyond that, just pay attention to the caveats list in the upgrade doc for your version of 12.5.x (12.5.4 is the latest I think).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Ryan</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> cisco-voip
<<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>> on behalf of Jonathan Charles <<a href="mailto:jonvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank">jonvoip@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 15, 2019 10:57 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a> <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [cisco-voip] VCS Expressway upgrade, 8.7 to 12.5</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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