<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Just wait till 14 is released.  They will change something....  because they can<br><br><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div>Kent</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Feb 13, 2020, at 18:31, Charles Goldsmith <w@woka.us> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Agreed 100% on this, unless you are on be6k stuff.  Prior to the m5 hardware, it was cut and dry, if you had > 2.5ghz processors, you could use the 7500 user or larger with no problem.  1000 user ova was less can be on 2.0 - 2.4ghz, and most of the be6k stuff came with 2.4ghz.  There are some other restrictions on cpu types, but in the enterprise, I haven't seen much that didn't fit, other than just speed.<div><br></div><div>Some of the be6k for the m5 hardware, I'm seeing some other cpu's in use now (like 2.2ghz).  Cisco also has some additional criteria if you don't want to do 2.5ghz and not 1:1 vCpu to core, but it's on an approval basis.</div><div><br></div><div>Read up here <a href="https://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/uc_system/virtualization/collaboration-virtualization-hardware.html">https://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/uc_system/virtualization/collaboration-virtualization-hardware.html</a></div><div><br></div><div>Basically, if your hardware supports it, go with the 7500 user, makes your life easier down the road.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 5:40 PM NateCCIE <<a href="mailto:nateccie@gmail.com">nateccie@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">I always do the 7.5k cucm size.  I hate single cpu cucm, ram is usually not a problem and I’d rather have the 110GB disk because upgrades about never work on the 80gb without clearing some space.  Even 110GB has become a problem lately. <br><br><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Feb 13, 2020, at 3:29 PM, Ryan Huff <<a href="mailto:ryanhuff@outlook.com" target="_blank">ryanhuff@outlook.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">





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For 11.x, but I've found this helpful: <a href="https://www.cisco.com/web/software/283088407/126036/cucm-11.0.ova.readme.txt" target="_blank">
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 13, 2020 5:24 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ryan Huff <<a href="mailto:ryanhuff@outlook.com" target="_blank">ryanhuff@outlook.com</a>>; <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a> <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
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Yeah, I’m just trying to understand (as I read the ovf file) what the actual difference is between the 1000/2500 user OVA. I seem to be missing something (or maybe not). CPU is actually 1 less starting but same reservation, same RAM, same HDD.</p>
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<b>From:</b> Ryan Huff <<a href="mailto:ryanhuff@outlook.com" target="_blank">ryanhuff@outlook.com</a>> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 13, 2020 5:21 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Matthew Loraditch <<a href="mailto:MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com" target="_blank">MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com</a>>; <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: CUCM Cluster Expansion</p>
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I wouldn't see a reason not to just up-size the two nodes you have now to the 2.5k OVA (use 2 vCPU on each node). For the
<i>15 pieces of flair</i>, I'd then add in a 3rd 2.5k OVA w/o the CCM service enabled and run TFTP.. etc on it and give the pub a break.</p>
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<b><span style="color:black">From:</span></b><span style="color:black"> cisco-voip <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>> on behalf of Matthew Loraditch <<a href="mailto:MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com" target="_blank">MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 13, 2020 5:10 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a> <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [cisco-voip] CUCM Cluster Expansion</span> </p>
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One of my biggest customers is experiencing issues that appear to be related to resource utilization. I’ve never had a customer who needed more than a 2 node 1000 user cluster.
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They are getting close to some of the capacity levels listed in the sizing guides.
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I’m looking for some opinions on what the best way to deal with this. I have the hardware capacity for either method.</p>
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Add a Third 1000 user Subscriber and turn off call processing and tftp on the Pub?</p>
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Rebuild both existing servers to 2500 user OVAs?</p>
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Add a third and do the rebuild also?</p>
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Can I just make the existing server be the 2500 capacity level? I actually don’t understand the difference between the 2500 and 1000 user OVAs, the 2500 appears to actually be lesser capacity by default (1 less cpu). So go to 7500?</p>
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I’d appreciate any opinions out there. Going to be doing some reading over the next few days to try and figure this out.</p>
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