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<p class="MsoNormal">So, you found that UCCx is now included in the Collab EA suite? Or are you still being priced separately for UCCx?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Myron Young <mdavid_young@hotmail.com> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 12, 2020 8:18 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio@uoguelph.ca><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Matthew Loraditch <MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com>; Cisco VoIP Group <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] UCCX Flex Licensing<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yes, I’m going through the analysis right now to present benefit of going EA instead of yearly Smartnet for our Call Manager and UCCX licensing and the cost difference makes it really hard to say no when you look at the numbers over 3 or
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">On May 11, 2020, at 8:20 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Is UCCx included in EA yet? Or still separate. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">On May 11, 2020, at 8:03 PM, Matthew Loraditch <<a href="mailto:MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com">MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Chat/Email and Advanced Outbound Campaigns (predictive/progressive dialing) require Flex Premium so agents doing those functions would need premium.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Anthony Holloway <<a href="mailto:avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 11, 2020 7:11 PM<br>
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<b>Cc:</b> Pawlowski, Adam <<a href="mailto:ajp26@buffalo.edu">ajp26@buffalo.edu</a>>; Cisco VoIP Group <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] UCCX Flex Licensing<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 6:07 PM Matthew Loraditch <<a href="mailto:MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com">MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From:</span></b><span style="color:black"> Anthony Holloway <<a href="mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 11, 2020 7:03:47 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Matthew Loraditch <<a href="mailto:MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com" target="_blank">MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Pawlowski, Adam <<a href="mailto:ajp26@buffalo.edu" target="_blank">ajp26@buffalo.edu</a>>; Cisco VoIP Group <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] UCCX Flex Licensing</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">My man! Always coming through! So, the Supervisor one is true but the admin one is bogus, right? I mean, about the Premium requirement for each.
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<p class="MsoNormal">So, what is still confusing to me is, in the past, the Premium seat also got you 2 premium IVR ports. Does a standard flex seat get you 2 standard ivr ports? Thus, a mized std/pre felx deal is going to net you a mixed std/pre port solution?
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<p>A-FLEX-CC has Standard and Premium Licenses.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>These are different from non flex licensing.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Standard is inbound agent licensing essentially<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Premium is supervisor licensing, email/chat agents, outbound campaign licensing.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>2 CTI ports per agent/license.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Admin still works no specific license needed as long as admin isn’t also supervisor/agent, HA is included, outside of the 3 features above, it’s like perpetual premium with SQL, etc included.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>See here for specifics:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><a href="https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/unified-communications/cisco-collaboration-flex-plan/datasheet-c78-741220.html" target="_blank">https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/unified-communications/cisco-collaboration-flex-plan/datasheet-c78-741220.html</a>
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<p>License enforcement is only in UCCX 12.5. Older versions don’t know and you end up with Perpetual Premium with HA feature set but with a license that expires at the end of your contract term.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Suffice it to say if you don’t need 12.5 features you could ride the gravy train for a while.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Licensing is still concurrent users.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>There are grace periods so if you need to test something you can make the admin a supervisor or something w/o breakage, just remember to remove later.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>If your customer has on-prem premium, with perpetual trade-in credits you are close to the cost of SWSS and should probably try and get them to move.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><b>From:</b> cisco-voip <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Anthony Holloway<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 11, 2020 5:21 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Pawlowski, Adam <<a href="mailto:ajp26@buffalo.edu" target="_blank">ajp26@buffalo.edu</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Cisco VoIP Group <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] UCCX Flex Licensing<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 4:16 PM Pawlowski, Adam <<a href="mailto:ajp26@buffalo.edu" target="_blank">ajp26@buffalo.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>This was the information I heard as well, and the purchase quantities are based on feature utilization and concurrency.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Brian Meade<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 11, 2020 5:07 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Anthony Holloway <<a href="mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Cisco VoIP Group <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] UCCX Flex Licensing<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Pretty sure when buying as A-Flex-CC that it always just gives you Premium licensing on the CCX side. Had this cause an issue with a customer that was staying on Enhanced for the extra CTI ports for many years.<o:p></o:p></p>
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