<div dir="ltr">Matthew/Anthony, <div>Thanks for the info, I think :-)</div><div>Looks like it's a lot more complicated than I thought.</div><div>Time to get my thinking cap on & do some more research.</div><div> <br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Rgds Andy<br><br></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, 22 May 2020 at 17:30, Anthony Holloway <<a href="mailto:avholloway%2Bcisco-voip@gmail.com">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">If 12.0 is considered, I'd just go 12.5 for long life release reasons, over 12.0, plus you can modernize your licensing to smart. You get a few other fancy features too, but you may not have a business need for them at this time.<div><br></div><div>If you do go WFO (which is one of several options - Imagicle being another) then you cannot use smart licensing, it will hold you back on classic licensing.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Also, separate from versioning, this may be a good time to look into Flex licensing, since you're building new anyways, as there are some advantages, albeit, you could spin anything as an advantage if you wanted to. E.g., What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger.<br><div><br></div><div>On demand recoding goes away with finesse in v11+ because that was a CAD only feature. In fact, there are several items which you will change the functionality for Agents, when moving to Finesse, and they generally fall into one of three categories:</div><div><br></div><div>1. Complete loss (E.g., Contact management pane, keyboard macros, and does anyone even know what <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88E-z0ShlFE" target="_blank">IPC Actions</a> are?)</div><div>2. Comparable replacements (E.g., Finesse doesn't the call details outside of the caller ID, you need to script a half-way solution to get the CSQ name and hold time to show for the Agent; and also, workflow rules/actions)</div><div>3. New Features (E.g., Gadgets! - except, they're hard to do right/well, and you'll likely just end up buying them from someone like 2ring)</div><div><br></div><div>Browser support becomes a huge issue now. So, three times, which I can recall, a browser issue has completely shutdown some call centers:</div><div><br></div><div>1. FireFox with weak diffie helman support (or lack thereof)</div><div>2. Chrome with background tab discarding</div><div>3. IE not supporting HTTP WebSockets (established hundreds if not thousands of connections to the server)</div><div><br></div><div>As for path, I think installing new is a great option. It will give you the time to test 100% of the system before swinging any prod traffic to it, and you can even then move a team at a time (you're only 20 agents, but the point still stands for anyone else). You will "lose" historical reporting on the new system, but as long as you keep both operational to the date wherein the old data is no longer needed, then you should be ok. Reporting users may just need to run reports off old + new for a bit.</div><div></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 11:09 AM Matthew Loraditch <<a href="mailto:MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com" target="_blank">MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Andy Carse<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 22, 2020 11:03 AM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> [cisco-voip] UCCX upgrade versions<u></u><u></u></p>
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