<div dir="ltr">Hello,<div><br></div><div>I know the security argument is valid in some respects. But, if I have an insecure IoT device on the network, like a temperature control system, I don't have the option of replacing it. So, I ring fence it. I isolate it so that it can't be exploited, etc. Maybe I'm missing something, but isn't that what we can do to workaround the security issues?</div><div><br>Thanks,</div><div><br></div><div>James</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 3:36 PM James Andrewartha <<a href="mailto:jandrewartha@ccgs.wa.edu.au">jandrewartha@ccgs.wa.edu.au</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">We’re still running 10 year old 79x5s (despite their cold boot RAM failure issue) and won’t be replacing them until next year at the earliest, I think most organisations
would want to sweat at least 10 years out of their handsets. I mean what features does an 8800 have over an old 7940 if all you want is dialtone? Yes security etc, but why pay for new handsets when you get nothing for it? Plus I bet COVID is making business
reconsider upgrading handsets in empty offices.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black">James Andrewartha<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black">Network & Projects Engineer<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black">Christ Church Grammar School<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black">Claremont, Western Australia<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black">Ph. (08) 9442 1757<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black">Mob. 0424 160 877<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> cisco-voip <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Anthony Holloway<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 24 September 2020 10:30 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Lelio Fulgenzi <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> voyp list, cisco-voip (<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>) <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Deprecated phones in CUCM 14<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This statement from the link is interesting to me:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">"...<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(88,88,91)">opportunity to move to newer phone models and clients at a pace that is reasonable."</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(88,88,91)">8800 series was released 8 years ago</span><u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal">
7940's have been end<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(88,88,91)"> of support since 5 years ago</span><u></u><u></u></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 8:20 AM Lelio Fulgenzi <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Yeah, there was some talk about this in the forums. Someone from Cisco said, “watch the page for some changes we think you’ll like”.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Wish they would update the “updated” date.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Lelio<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> cisco-voip <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>James Buchanan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 24, 2020 7:49 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> voyp list, cisco-voip (<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>) <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [cisco-voip] Deprecated phones in CUCM 14<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Hello,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">So, Cisco changed their mind for now:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><a href="https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/trouble/14_0_1/fieldNotices/cucm_b_deprecated-phones-14.html" target="_blank">https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/trouble/14_0_1/fieldNotices/cucm_b_deprecated-phones-14.html</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Thanks,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">James<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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