[e-nsp] Using Extreme for BGP border router?

[nsubugr at mtn.co.ug]

Uhm ...

Haven't really had the opportunity to use this BD12804R BUT I think it can scale with BGP as well.

Regards

> -----Original Message-----
> From: extreme-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:extreme-nsp-
> bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Samit
> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 8:24 PM
> To: extreme-nsp at puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [e-nsp] Using Extreme for BGP border router?
>
> I am frightened to know that Extreme is not recommended as a border
> gateway with full bgp route along with its lethargy in support and bug
> fixing. I have almost made up my mind purchasing BD12804R and 12802R
> along with X450.
>
> Hey Rhett, what is your take in  Force 10's E300 bundle with 24port GbE
> in price and performance comparing with BD12804R with  20port GbE?
>
> Regards,
> Samit
>
>
> Jo Rhett wrote:
> > On Jun 24, 2008, at 12:43 PM, Swen Wulf wrote:
> >> I would be interested if anybody out here is using an Extreme Networks
> >> box in an ISP environment and is using BGP with multiple peers. I
> >> wonder how the argument goes with Cisco customers/peers and any other
> >> issues that one might run into it.
> >
> >
> > In general Extreme works, but we migrated away from using them as border
> > peers for the following reasons:
> >
> > 1. When the BGP table overflows the unit falls down dead.  No other
> > failure mode, it just falls flat on its face and stops routing
> > entirely.  This is entirely useless as a failure mode.
> >
> > 2. It can't do uRPF so you can't filter your peers appropriately.
> >
> > 3. Memory size limits as you've noted.  No way to change much memory is
> > given to the BGP table.
> >
> > 4. Extreme doesn't seem to care much about BGP problems.  I have 4 open
> > bugs with them that are mission critical problems that they still
> > haven't gotten around to fixing.  One of those bugs is leaking routes
> > that are explicitly blocked (or implicitly - doesn't matter) that they
> > confirm is a bug and just can't be bothered to fix.
> >
> > In summary, I wouldn't use an Extreme box in a BGP border situation
> > unless it was L2-only, which brings about the question of "why bother?"
> >
> > Get a Force10 system for less money and much better support.
> >
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