[e-nsp] STP

John Center john.center at villanova.edu
Tue Apr 16 10:41:51 EDT 2013


Hi Luiz,

On 04/12/2013 01:37 PM, Luiz Júnior wrote:
> Hi John,
> Thank you.
> Well, after created and enabled a new STPD (new_stpd), in case that I
> need to add a new vlan I just have to use  the command:
> create vlan "new_vlan"
> configure "new_vlan" tag 40
> configure "new_vlan" add ports 3:19 tag

When creating a new VLAN, I also assign the IP protocol to it:

create vlan "LS-I-32"
configure vlan LS-I-32 tag 32
configure vlan LS-I-32 protocol IP

This prevents other non-IP protocols from being transmitted by the 
switch on that VLAN.

> configure "new_stpd" add "new_vlan" ports 3:19, 3:20 pvst-plus
> And if a vlan belongs to another stpd, first I should delete it form the
> "old_stpd" and then add to the "new_stpd"
> configure "old_stpd" delete "old_vlan" ports 1:6
> configure "new_stpd" add "old_vlan" ports 1:6
> Is that right?
>
Yes, a VLAN can only be a member of a single STP instance.  You can have 
multiple VLANs assigned to multiple STP instances on a port, but there 
must be a one-to-one correspondence between a specific VLAN tag & an STP 
tag.  The VLAN & STP names can be different on each switch, but the tags 
have to match.  (Don't make the names different!  That way lies 
Madness... ;-))

As you can guess, we use a naming convention:

VLAN name:	DistArea-Protocol-TAG

STP name:	DistArea-Protocol-TAG-STP

We have standard abbreviations for each distribution area.  Back when we 
used to have NetWare & AppleTalk on our network, we needed a way to 
differentiate the VLANs from IP only.

If you haven't deployed the new 8810 yet, you might want to set it up in 
a test environment & try this out with a couple of spare switches.

HTH

	-John

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>     Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 16:04:36 -0400
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>     Hi Luiz,
>
>     On 04/07/2013 12:04 AM, Luiz J?nior wrote:
>      > Hi guys,
>      > I am having a hard time configuring STP on Extreme Switches properly,
>      > and I really appreciate some help.
>      > I have already 26 switches in my Network, at my Core layer a
>     BD8810, and
>      > at the access layer I have some Summit 450, 460 and 200. The thing is
>      > the switches are not configured properly, the VLANs are
>     configured only
>      > on BD8810, and at the access layer, all switches are in VLAN
>     Default, it
>      > works but I am trying to optimize the network and made things
>     work properly.
>      > Moreover, I am adding to my network a new Core Switch BD8810, but
>     to get
>      > started I am only connecting a few switches from the access layer
>     to the
>      > this new one, and connect it with the core - in other words, I am
>     only
>      > creating a redundant path to the Old BD8810.
>
>     I think the first thing you need to do is set up the VLANs on the access
>     switches properly.  If a VLAN has been assigned to the access switches,
>     but they are configured with the default VLAN, you are going to have to
>     create the correct VLAN on the access switches, leaving the edge ports
>     untagged & tagging the uplink.
>
>     One way I've done this in the past is to create a temporary VLAN between
>     the core & access switches, using local IP addresses, reachable via the
>     core switch.  Then, having 2 sessions to the core switch, telnet/ssh
>     from the one of the core switch sessions to the access switch using the
>     temporary IP address.  I'd have your changes worked out ahead of time,
>     cut & paste them into the access switch & also tag the uplink in the
>     other session.  I had to do a major science building on campus this way.
>        Doing this at off hours will work the best, of course!
>
>      > Anyway, I have tried to follow extreme networks guides and white
>     papers,
>      > however, I am still not getting things right. I couldn't
>     understand how
>      > STPD works, I've tried to create and add some vlans to it, but many
>      > errors have appeared, as such: Error: Please configure a stpd
>     dot1q tag
>      > first, or you can't add this VLAN or port to SPTD and so on. And as a
>      > matter of fact, once I have configured a new SPTD on my BD8810
>     and on my
>      > Summit 200, the problem is that each one has itself as the root
>     bridge,
>      > although the trunk port was working and the Summit has full
>     connection
>      > to the network. At this stage, I want to my Old BD8810 be the root
>      > bridge for all VLANs.
>
>     Once you have the VLANs spanning from the core to the edge, create the
>     STP instance.  I usually assign the STP instance a mode of dot1w, with a
>     default encapsulation of pvst-plus.  (We have a mixed environment & this
>     is the common denominator.)  You need to first add the VLAN to the STP
>     with the ports:
>
>     create stpd LS-I-32-STP
>     configure stpd LS-I-32-STP mode dot1w
>     configure stpd LS-I-32-STP default-encapsulation pvst-plus
>     configure stpd LS-I-32-STP add vlan LS-I-32 ports 1:6 pvst-plus
>     configure stpd LS-I-32-STP add vlan LS-I-32 ports 1:7 pvst-plus
>     configure stpd LS-I-32-STP add vlan LS-I-32 ports 1:8 pvst-plus
>     configure stpd LS-I-32-STP add vlan LS-I-32 ports 1:9 pvst-plus
>
>     You can then modify the STP instance with things like link-type:
>
>     configure stpd LS-I-32-STP ports link-type point-to-point 1:6
>
>      > So, how could I configure on a switch a new STPD (With a new one,
>     I am
>      > expecting not to made a mess on my network), with a new Carrier VLAN
>      > (I think this is a sort of Native vlan, right?)  and add new vlans to
>      > it, and also old vlans that it belongs to a other STPD (e.g. s0),
>     inside
>      > a trunk port.
>
>     Once you've assigned a VLAN + ports to the the STP instance, then you
>     can configure the tag & enable the STP:
>
>     configure stpd LS-I-32-STP tag 32
>     enable stpd LS-I-32-STP
>
>     Assigning a priority of 0 on the core switch will make it the root:
>
>     configure stpd LS-I-32-STP priority 0
>
>     When you're finished with this on the core switch, you can add many of
>     the same settings to the edge switches, making the link-type for the
>     uplink point-to-point & the other untagged ports "edge".
>
>     HTH
>
>              -John
>
>     --
>     John Center
>     Villanova University
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