[f-nsp] NetIron CER 2000 as a metro switch

Mark Tees marktees at gmail.com
Wed Aug 28 21:43:00 EDT 2013


If you want to do L3/PE services for customers and want to keep costs down
it might be feasible to use CES at access points then ship traffic using
VLL's to a couple of strategically placed PE L3 devices that could be CER
or larger?


On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr <youssef at 720.fr>wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I would advise you to take a close look to the data sheets for both
> product lines with your SE.
>
> My personal opinion, I'd get a CER because it can pretty much do anything
> a CES does and much more if needed in a later futur. But that's me ;-)
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Y.
>
>
>
> Le 29 août 2013 à 01:16, "Eric Louie" <elouie at yahoo.com> a écrit :
>
> Ok****
>
> ** **
>
> It’s being used as a base switch.  Each GigE port may be servicing up to
> 10 customers over a trunked interface, though port bandwidth utilization
> will rarely exceed 150 Mbps.  Most of those connections will be simple
> point-to-point IP connections via individual VLANs.  24 ports is the most
> we’ll need at any site, and the switches are interconnected via backhaul
> WAN circuits to form a ring or partial mesh as the backhaul topology
> allows.  IP is routed within the backbone using OSPF.  We have a
> combination of public (customer assigned) and private (internal use) IP
> addresses within the backbone.****
>
> ** **
>
> Part of our growth path will be to offer MPLS via VRF circuits between
> switches, regionally and locally.  Customers with multiple locations in our
> regional area will have the ability to interconnect their offices using
> VRFs.  We will also offer IPv6 to our customers as these new switches are
> installed.  ****
>
> ** **
>
> much appreciated,****
>
> Eric Louie****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr [mailto:youssef at 720.fr <youssef at 720.fr>]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 28, 2013 4:01 PM
> *To:* Eric Louie
> *Cc:* foundry-nsp
> *Subject:* Re: [f-nsp] NetIron CER 2000 as a metro switch****
>
> ** **
>
> Well,****
>
> ** **
>
> First of all, one is a switch who can do a little routing with small RIB
> capacity while the other is a router who can do a little switching whit
> high RIB capacity.****
>
> ** **
>
> Again, if you don't state your needs/requirements/sizing, it's going to be
> difficult to help.****
>
> ** **
>
> Y.
>
> ****
>
>
> Le 29 août 2013 à 00:54, "Eric Louie" <elouie at yahoo.com> a écrit :****
>
> What’s the difference between the CER and the CES?  From the local Systems
> Engineer, he says “L3 VPNs on the CER, L2 VPNs on the CES”.  Any other
> notable differences?****
>
>  ****
>
> much appreciated,****
>
> Eric Louie****
>
>  ****
>
> *From:* Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr [mailto:youssef at 720.fr <youssef at 720.fr>]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 28, 2013 3:45 PM
> *To:* Eric Louie
> *Cc:* foundry-nsp
> *Subject:* Re: [f-nsp] NetIron CER 2000 as a metro switch****
>
>  ****
>
> Hello Eric,****
>
>  ****
>
> I have been running CER-RT as route reflectors and MPLS PEs for our
> "small" POPs just fine.****
>
>  ****
>
> Now, if you are looking for metro switchs as a replacement for Cisco
> ME3600, you should probably take a look at the CES switchs destined for
> that typical use case.****
>
>  ****
>
> Again, it all depends on your requirements/needs/sizing which you didn't
> specify.****
>
>  ****
>
> HTH.****
>
>  ****
>
>
> Le 29 août 2013 à 00:31, "Eric Louie" <elouie at yahoo.com> a écrit :****
>
> I’m considering using the CER 2000 as a mpls PE switch.  I have been told
> that the CER-RT can also be used as an Internet edge switch (will hold
> multiple BGP tables)****
>
>  ****
>
> I’m interested in your experiences in configuration and operation in
> either application.  What are you using for CE devices?  (Brocade doesn’t
> seem to have a branch office router)****
>
>  ****
>
> (Currently using Cisco ME3600-X for PE and c871 for CE)****
>
>  ****
>
> much appreciated,****
>
> Eric Louie****
>
>  ****
>
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