[f-nsp] Netiron 5.6 feedbacks

Josh Galvez josh at zevlag.com
Fri Aug 15 16:26:20 EDT 2014


John,

Is this only for particular line cards? Or are you seeing problems from all
cards?

I've not actually done a stare and compare of CLI/SNMP/SFLOW on 5.6.0c, it
just appeared to be right.  (5.6.0b most definitely was not)

-Josh




On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 7:01 PM, John W. O'Brien <obrienjw at upenn.edu> wrote:

> On 8/12/14 4:25 AM, Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Has anyone tried it yet ? I was planning to do so when I come back next
> > week but any early feedbacks will be appreciated.
> >
> > Best regards.
>
> This week we upgraded five MLXe-16 routers in our core from 5.4.00d* to
> 5.6.00d. It looks like there is an sFlow export regression in this code
> that we didn't pick up during our lab validation. At least one obvious
> problem I've identified so far by looking at raw sFlow data is that the
> input and output packet counters are lower by about a factor of 3 than
> the corresponding counters in the CLI and in the SNMP ifXTable (which
> agree with each other). We've contacted Brocade and I would be glad to
> follow up here when we resolve the issue.
>
> I'm really hoping we can solve it without another hit-full code change.
>
> * Actually a CVR with a work-around for DEFECT000508412---the main
> reason we chose to upgrade---which is fixed in 5.6.00d.
>
> > Le 1 août 2014 à 02:09, James Braunegg <james.braunegg at micron21.com
> > <mailto:james.braunegg at micron21.com>> a écrit :
> >
> >> Who wants to test it….
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Kindest Regards
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> *James Braunegg
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> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >> *From:*foundry-nsp [mailto:foundry-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] *On
> >> Behalf Of *Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr
> >> *Sent:* Friday, August 01, 2014 5:14 AM
> >> *To:* Skylar MacMinn
> >> *Cc:* foundry-nsp at puck.nether.net <mailto:foundry-nsp at puck.nether.net>
> >> *Subject:* Re: [f-nsp] Netiron 5.6 feedbacks
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> 560d is out :-)
> >>
> >> Y.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 2014-07-18 15:47 GMT+02:00 Skylar MacMinn <skylar at crissic.net
> >> <mailto:skylar at crissic.net>>:
> >>
> >> Thanks for that update J
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> We updated to 5.6.0.c and have been fine with sflow since. Thanks
> >> again to everyone who helped point out the issue J
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Cordially Yours,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Skylar MacMinn
> >>
> >> www.crissic.net <http://www.crissic.net>
> >> Crissic Solutions, LLC
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> *From:*foundry-nsp [mailto:foundry-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
> >> <mailto:foundry-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net>] *On Behalf Of *Youssef
> >> Bengelloun-Zahr
> >> *Sent:* Friday, July 18, 2014 8:43 AM
> >> *To:* Josh Galvez
> >>
> >>
> >> *Cc:* foundry-nsp at puck.nether.net <mailto:foundry-nsp at puck.nether.net>
> >> *Subject:* Re: [f-nsp] Netiron 5.6 feedbacks
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Little update as 56d GA was postponed until July 31st.
> >>
> >> Best regards.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 2014-06-20 21:29 GMT+02:00 Josh Galvez <josh at zevlag.com
> >> <mailto:josh at zevlag.com>>:
> >>
> >>     Just an FYI, I've ran in to two rather annoying bugs it the 5.6
> >>     line of code, this on the XMR.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     in 5.6b (but fixed in 5.6c):
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     Defect ID: DEFECT000502305
> >>
> >>     Technical Severity: Medium Probability: High
> >>
> >>     Product: Multi-Service IronWare Technology: Management
> >>
> >>     Reported In Release: NI 05.6.00 Technology Area: SFLOW
> >>
> >>     Closed In Release(s): NI 05.6.00c(Fixed)
> >>
> >>     Symptom: An incorrect raw packet header length in the sFlow
> >>     protocol is observed.
> >>
> >>     Condition: Issue is seen while running L3 traffic along while
> >>     enabling sFlow on an interface. sFlow enabled
> >>
> >>     interfaces send sFlow data packets to an sFlow collector. At the
> >>     collector the raw packet header
> >>
> >>     length is less than what was originally sent.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     In 5.6c (not in 5.6b, no fix yet):
> >>
> >>     Defect 505978
> >>     BGPv6 neighborship not coming up over loopback interfaces as the
> >>     ipv6 TCP cpnnection is in SYN-SENT state.
> >>     It will occur if you peer using loopback address with /128 mask.
> >>     It will be fixed in 5.6d which is not released yet.
> >>     Current workaround would be to not use /128 mask or to downgrade
> >>     your code.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 7:48 AM, James Braunegg
> >>     <james.braunegg at micron21.com <mailto:james.braunegg at micron21.com>>
> >>     wrote:
> >>
> >>         Will be interesting to hear your feedback in a few months !!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>         Was about to upgrade to 5.5 but maybe it’s worth the wait to
> >>         see how 5.6d is !!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>         Kindest Regards
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>         *James Braunegg
> >>         **P:*  1300 769 972  |  *M:*  0488 997 207 |  *D:*  (03) 9751
> 7616
> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >>         *From:*foundry-nsp [mailto:foundry-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
> >>         <mailto:foundry-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net>] *On Behalf Of
> >>         *Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr
> >>         *Sent:* Monday, May 26, 2014 6:48 PM
> >>
> >>
> >>         *To:* Wouter de Jong
> >>         *Cc:* <foundry-nsp at puck.nether.net
> >>         <mailto:foundry-nsp at puck.nether.net>>
> >>         *Subject:* Re: [f-nsp] Netiron 5.6 feedbacks
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>         Hi,
> >>
> >>         I hope this one will be more mature and stable :-)
> >>
> >>         Y.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>         2014-05-26 10:26 GMT+02:00 Wouter de Jong <wouter at widexs.nl
> >>         <mailto:wouter at widexs.nl>>:
> >>
> >>         Hi Youssef,
> >>
> >>         OK, that is the same date I received :)
> >>
> >>         Regards,
> >>
> >>         Wouter
> >>
> >>
> >>         > -----Original Message-----
> >>         > From: Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr [mailto:youssef at 720.fr
> >>         <mailto:youssef at 720.fr>]
> >>
> >>         > Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 22:16
> >>         > To: Wouter de Jong
> >>         > Cc: <foundry-nsp at puck.nether.net
> >>         <mailto:foundry-nsp at puck.nether.net>>
> >>         > Subject: Re: [f-nsp] Netiron 5.6 feedbacks
> >>         >
> >>
> >>         > Hi,
> >>         >
> >>         > Answering my own post. Just heard from my SE, 56d GA is
> >>         targeted for
> >>         > July 16th.
> >>         >
> >>         > Best regards.
> >>         >
> >>         >
> >>         >
> >>         > > Le 25 mai 2014 Ã  20:34, Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr
> >>         <youssef at 720.fr <mailto:youssef at 720.fr>> a écrit
> >>         > :
> >>         > >
> >>         > > Hi,
> >>         > >
> >>         > > Interesting... Did TAC give you 56d GA release date ?
> >>         > >
> >>         > > Y.
> >>         > >
> >>         > >
> >>         > >
> >>         > >> Le 25 mai 2014 Ã  12:57, Wouter de Jong <wouter at widexs.nl
> >>         <mailto:wouter at widexs.nl>> a écrit :
> >>         > >>
> >>         > >> Hi,
> >>         > >>
> >>         > >> (Apologies for not quoting, etc as I don't have the
> >>         original email in my
> >>         > >> mailbox)
> >>         > >>
> >>         > >> Too bad that 5.6 seems 'buggy' ... some of it's new
> >>         features look nice,
> >>         > and
> >>         > >> I was planning to put it on a new box...
> >>         > >> now I'm not so sure about that any longer...
> >>         > >>
> >>         > >>
> >>         > >> Also interesting that you seem to run 5.5d without
> >>         problems, as we
> >>         > came
> >>         > >> across a bug in 5.5 with regards
> >>         > >> to the IPv6 route cache - DEFECT000500944
> >>         > >>
> >>         > >> Due to it's characteristics, my guess would be that we
> >>         really can't be
> >>         > the
> >>         > >> only one that faced that problem ? :)
> >>         > >>
> >>         > >> The issue is that after a link between 2 MLXe's fails and
> >>         the IGP selects a
> >>         > >> different path ... it fails to update the IPv6 cache.
> >>         > >> However, it updates the RIB, etc correctly .... so IPv6
> >>         traffic transiting
> >>         > >> through the router appears to keep working without issue
> and
> >>         > >> everything _seems_ correctly (even from looking at CAM),
> >>         only traffic
> >>         > >> originated from the router itself (eg. loopback) is still
> >>         pointing
> >>         > >> to the wrong interface, which for example affected IPv6
> >>         iBGP sessions
> >>         > in our
> >>         > >> case.
> >>         > >>
> >>         > >> The provided method to resolve it is to manually clear
> >>         the IPv6 cache
> >>         > by
> >>         > >> running "clear ipv6 cache"
> >>         > >> (Note that 'cache' is hidden in the outout from "clear
> >>         ipv6 ?" ...
> >>         > >> DEFECT000503937)
> >>         > >>
> >>         > >>
> >>         > >> According to TAC, this issue occurs in both 5.5.x and
> >>         5.6.x ... and both
> >>         > >> with IS-IS and OSPF.
> >>         > >> In our case, this was on MLXe-4's with 4x10G X-blades,
> >>         running IS-IS, with
> >>         > >> v5.5d and v5.5e
> >>         > >> Fix should come in 5.6d .. not sure in what version 5.5
> >>         will be fixed.
> >>         > >>
> >>         > >>
> >>         > >> Just wondering if anyone else faced this as well ?
> >>         > >>
> >>         > >>
> >>         > >> Best regards,
> >>         > >>
> >>         > >> Wouter
> >>         > >>
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> >>
> >>
> >>         --
> >>         Youssef BENGELLOUN-ZAHR
> >>
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