From robhass at gmail.com  Thu Apr  2 10:54:20 2020
From: robhass at gmail.com (Robert Hass)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 16:54:20 +0200
Subject: [f-nsp] SLX 9640 experiences
In-Reply-To: <B3FBFC44-33FD-44E5-971F-E267BE517D93@init7.net>
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Hi Fredy
Hope you are well. How about your deployment of new SLX'es in Init7 network
? Probably in March as in every network your traffic increased a lot :)
Hearing some experiences from You :)

Cheers
Rob

On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 7:55 AM Fredy Kuenzler <kuenzler at init7.net> wrote:

> Hi Robert,
>
> Thanks for asking again. 2nd round of tests succeeded, we after a very
> long evaluation phase decided to buy the SLX 9640 and dumped the Cisco
> NCS-55A2. Apparently we?re in good company if one wants to believe from
> hearsay.
>
> The first batch got delivered this week (see pic), we plan to power up a
> few in the lab anytime soon.
>
> Can?t say much more yet except they look nice with the violet front bezel
> ?
>
> Meanwhile we launched a project to automate configuration. At the same
> time physical deployment in the many pops will take place. The goal is to
> have payload in Q1 on them and get rid off the MLXe and XMR by Q2 2020.
>
> [image: image1.jpeg]
>
> --
> Fredy K?nzler
>
> Init7 (Switzerland) Ltd.
> Technoparkstrasse 5
> CH-8406 Winterthur
> https://www.init7.net/
>
> Am 05.12.2019 um 15:52 schrieb Robert Hass <robhass at gmail.com>:
>
> Hi Fredy
> I'm curious how it's going with SLX after 2-3 months ? :)
> Please share your thoughts.
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 8:54 PM Fredy Kuenzler <kuenzler at init7.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi Robert,
>>
>> I?m not too much into the details of the test. While Arista was out quite
>> soon (lack of MPLS) we focused on Cisco NCS-55A2 which fulfilled our needs.
>>
>> However when it came to pricing the offer of Cisco was +1 on the seventh
>> digit compared to Extreme SLX-9640 (we need to buy ~80 devices) so we
>> started to reconsider the SLX, despite the first tests were not too
>> promising. Maybe there is new software out which fixes the most annoying
>> issues.
>>
>> The Ciscos simply exceed our budget, but I asked for a better deal which
>> is still pending.
>>
>> We?re probably go to buy two or three SLX and bring them into real
>> production and when they fail we sell them 2nd hand. At least we would have
>> a better feeling before spending the money.
>>
>> Ask me again for an update in about 8 weeks.
>>
>> --
>> Fredy Kuenzler
>> Init7 (Switzerland) Ltd.
>> Technoparkstrasse 5
>> CH-8406 Winterthur
>> Switzerland
>>
>> http://www.init7.net/
>>
>>
>> Am 24.08.2019 um 13:22 schrieb Robert Hass <robhass at gmail.com>:
>>
>> Hi Fredy
>> Did you finished your testing of SLX 9640 ? Any feedback comparing to
>> tested Arista or NCS ?
>>
>> Thank a lot
>> Rob
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 1:06 PM Fredy Kuenzler <kuenzler at init7.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> We are exactly doing an extensive evaluation of the three devices
>>> mentioned. Not there yet, unfortunately.
>>>
>>> https://twitter.com/init7/status/1126450891920375809
>>>
>>> --
>>> Fredy Kuenzler
>>>
>>> Init7 (Switzerland) Ltd.
>>> AS13030
>>> Technoparkstrasse 5
>>> CH-8406 Winterthur
>>> Twitter: @init7 / @kuenzler
>>> http://www.init7.net/
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 03.06.19 um 12:50 schrieb Robert Hass:
>>> > Hi
>>> > I'm looking for users of new SLX 9640. We consider that platform as
>>> > MLXe replacement in Internet (full DFZ) Edge/Core segments. Any
>>> > problems / comments ?
>>> >
>>> > BTW. Did anyone compared SLX 9640 versus Arista 7280 or NCS 5501-SE
>>> > ? I'm also happy to hear feedback.
>>> >
>>> > Rob
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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From kuenzler at init7.net  Wed Apr 29 09:42:07 2020
From: kuenzler at init7.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Fredy_K=c3=bcnzler?=)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 15:42:07 +0200
Subject: [f-nsp] SLX 9640 experiences
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Message-ID: <fc02e9dd-f3ab-8634-6542-1bf632c84959@init7.net>

Dear James, dear all,

due to COVID19 we are delayed but I can share some experience:

- we have two 9640SLX with actual payload.

- we have 20+ 9640SLX physically deployed but not yet with payload.
Working on configuration automation, soon (hopefully)

Config CLI is even closer to Cisco than on MLXe/XMR.

Power consumption and efficiency is very good. And, I know it doesn't
matter, but nevertheless, the SLX is actually good looking.

Some issues:

- no RPKI filtering yet

- issues with 3rd party optics (Flexoptix) acceptance on the version 20
tree (18.b is ok)

- "dhcp ztp cancel" is the command you want to execute immediately after
plugging the OOB cable...

So far we don't regret buying SLX9640 yet.

I expect within the next two months to have most of the XMR and MLXe
retired, with the SLXes as primary workhorses within AS13030.

Best regards,

Fredy / Init7



On 29.04.20 14:36, James Braunegg wrote:
> Dear Fredy
> 
> 
> 
> Just wondering if you can share how the SLX 9640 deployment is
> going?and also how much of a discount where you able to get with
> Extreme ?
> 
> 
> 
> We have a bunch of MLXe routers which we want to replace so keen on 
> understanding how things are going?
> 
> 
> 
> Kindest Regards
> 
> 
> ?
> 
> *James Braunegg*
> 
> 	
> 
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> 
> 	
> 
> 1300 769 972 <tel:1300%20769%20972>?/ 0488 997 207 <tel:1300%20769%20972>
> 
> _james at micron21.com <mailto:james at micron21.com>_
> 
> www.micron21.com/ <http://www.micron21.com/>
> 
> 	
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> cid:image002.png at 01D280A4.01865B60 <http://www.micron21.com/>
> 
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> 
> 	
> 
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> 
> 	
> ?
> 
> *From:*foundry-nsp <foundry-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net> *On Behalf Of
> *Robert Hass
> *Sent:* Friday, 3 April 2020 1:54 AM
> *To:* Fredy Kuenzler <kuenzler at init7.net>
> *Cc:* foundry-nsp <foundry-nsp at puck.nether.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [f-nsp] SLX 9640 experiences
> 
> ?
> 
> Hi Fredy
> 
> Hope you are well. How about your deployment of new SLX'es in Init7 
> network ? Probably in March as in every network your traffic
> increased a lot :)
> 
> Hearing some experiences from You :)
> 
> ?
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Rob
> 
> ?
> 
> On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 7:55 AM Fredy Kuenzler <kuenzler at init7.net
> <mailto:kuenzler at init7.net>> wrote:
> 
> Hi Robert,
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks for asking again. 2nd round of tests succeeded, we after a 
> very long evaluation phase decided to buy the SLX 9640 and dumped the
> Cisco NCS-55A2. Apparently we?re in good company if one wants to 
> believe from hearsay.
> 
> 
> 
> The first batch got delivered this week (see pic), we plan to power 
> up a few in the lab anytime soon.
> 
> 
> 
> Can?t say much more yet except they look nice with the violet front 
> bezel ?
> 
> 
> 
> Meanwhile we launched a project to automate configuration. At the 
> same time physical deployment in the many pops will take place. The 
> goal is to have payload in Q1 on them and get rid off the MLXe and 
> XMR by Q2 2020.
> 
>     ?
> 
>     image1.jpeg
> 
>     ?
> 
>     --
> 
>     Fredy K?nzler
> 
>     ?
> 
>     Init7 (Switzerland) Ltd.
> 
>     Technoparkstrasse 5
> 
>     CH-8406 Winterthur
> 
>     https://www.init7.net/
> 
> 
>     Am 05.12.2019 um 15:52 schrieb Robert Hass <robhass at gmail.com
>     <mailto:robhass at gmail.com>>:
> 
>         Hi Fredy
> 
>         I'm curious how it's going with SLX after 2-3 months ? :)
> 
>         Please share your thoughts.
> 
>         ?
> 
>         Thanks!
> 
>         ?
> 
>         On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 8:54 PM Fredy Kuenzler
>         <kuenzler at init7.net <mailto:kuenzler at init7.net>> wrote:
> 
>             Hi Robert,
> 
>             ?
> 
>             I?m not too much into the details of the test. While Arista
>             was out quite soon (lack of MPLS) we focused on Cisco
>             NCS-55A2 which fulfilled our needs.
> 
>             ?
> 
>             However when it came to pricing the offer of Cisco was +1 on
>             the seventh digit compared to Extreme SLX-9640 (we need to
>             buy ~80 devices) so we started to reconsider the SLX,
>             despite the first tests were not too promising. Maybe there
>             is new software out which fixes the most annoying issues.?
> 
>             ?
> 
>             The Ciscos simply exceed our budget, but I asked for a
>             better deal which is still pending.
> 
>             ?
> 
>             We?re probably go to buy two or three SLX and bring them
>             into real production and when they fail we sell them 2nd
>             hand. At least we would have a better feeling before
>             spending the money.
> 
>             ?
> 
>             Ask me again for an update in about 8 weeks.
> 
>             --
> 
>             Fredy Kuenzler
> 
>             Init7 (Switzerland) Ltd.
> 
>             Technoparkstrasse 5
> 
>             CH-8406 Winterthur
> 
>             Switzerland
> 
>             ?
> 
>             http://www.init7.net/
> 
>             ?
> 
> 
>             Am 24.08.2019 um 13:22 schrieb Robert Hass
>             <robhass at gmail.com <mailto:robhass at gmail.com>>:
> 
>                 Hi Fredy
> 
>                 Did you finished your testing of SLX 9640 ? Any feedback
>                 comparing to tested Arista or NCS ?
> 
>                 ?
> 
>                 Thank a lot
> 
>                 Rob
> 
>                 ?
> 
>                 On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 1:06 PM Fredy Kuenzler
>                 <kuenzler at init7.net <mailto:kuenzler at init7.net>> wrote:
> 
> 
>                     We are exactly doing an extensive evaluation of the
>                     three devices
>                     mentioned. Not there yet, unfortunately.
> 
>                     https://twitter.com/init7/status/1126450891920375809
> 
>                     -- 
>                     Fredy Kuenzler
> 
>                     Init7 (Switzerland) Ltd.
>                     AS13030
>                     Technoparkstrasse 5
>                     CH-8406 Winterthur
>                     Twitter: @init7 / @kuenzler
>                     http://www.init7.net/
> 
> 
>                     Am 03.06.19 um 12:50 schrieb Robert Hass:
>                     > Hi
>                     > I'm looking for users of new SLX 9640. We consider
>                     that platform as
>                     > MLXe replacement in Internet (full DFZ) Edge/Core
>                     segments. Any
>                     > problems / comments ?
>                     >
>                     > BTW. Did anyone compared SLX 9640 versus Arista
>                     7280 or NCS 5501-SE
>                     > ? I'm also happy to hear feedback.
>                     >
>                     > Rob
>                     >
>                     >
>                     >
>                     > _______________________________________________
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Fredy K?nzler

Init7 (Switzerland) Ltd.
Technoparkstrasse 5
CH-8406 Winterthur
https://www.init7.net/