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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=315045123-30112004>Hello my dear
colleagues,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=315045123-30112004>first of all let me
say: yes - I know this is a Cisco-only mailing list but my question is directly
connected to Cisco so please give me a chance.<BR>I'm CCing the foundry-nsp list
here and hope that my cross post doesn't disturb anyone but will help to find
people who have experience with cisco as well as foundry
gear.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=315045123-30112004>We're trying to
increase our redundancy and I'm trying to decide whether it is better to buy a
Foundry Bigiron 8000 in addition to our existing Cisco GSR8/40 or if - maybe - a
second Cisco would be the better choice.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=315045123-30112004><BR>At the moment we
have a GSR8/40 that is full redundant and utilizes 2 GRPs with 256 MB ram
</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=315045123-30112004>and we're using GE-GBIC-SC-B line cards and they
match our requirements which are to handle about 200 megabits of traffic AND to
sustain a hard (d)dos-attack which might be up to a gigabit of fragmented
traffic. I'm talking about ipv4 traffic of course which will be routed in
hardware. I know that ipv6 is a software-only thing on our "old" line cards but
for the moment that's okay.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=315045123-30112004>Regarding the
current discussion of the growing bgp tables: I know that we will sooner or
later run into problems regarding the memory.. but that's not the topic right
now.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=315045123-30112004>In order to increase
our redundancy we'd like to install a second router.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=315045123-30112004>My first thought was
to buy another GSR 8/40 but this time with a GRP-B that has 512MB of ram but in
connection with the required line card(s) this will be pretty
expensive.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=315045123-30112004>A colleague just
showed me his Foundry BigIron that was equipped with a B4GMR4 M4 Management
Module that carries 512MB ram and 4 gigabit ports.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=315045123-30112004>[by the way: with 4
full feeds only about 40% of the memory are in use. Looks like they have a
better software than Cisco]</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=315045123-30112004><SPAN
class=315045123-30112004>From the economic perspective the bigiron
8000 is very interesting: costs only about a third of the Cisco and does
even have 4 Gigabit ports!</SPAN><BR>He told me that the router does "line
speed" and can sustain dos-attacks of more than a gigabit without any problems
but that was all he knew. The datasheets on Foundry's website are more the
marketing like stuff.</SPAN></FONT></DIV><FONT><SPAN class=315045123-30112004>
<DIV><BR><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2>by the way: the <SPAN
class=315045123-30112004>gsr as well as the bigiron can both do VRRP. Will both
implementations work together in one
vrrp-installation?</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=315045123-30112004>==>
</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=315045123-30112004>Does anyone
have a real experience with Foundry Bigiron-gear and know how good/bad it runs
compared to Cisco.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=315045123-30112004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=315045123-30112004>I'm asking myself
right now whether to buy another Cisco which is good since I know how to
administer the gear and you can find a external technician easily. We
could also exchange line cards between both routers. A big CON is that
it is exactly the same gear we have right now and if there's an ios fault
most probably both machines will fail.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=315045123-30112004>What do you
think?<BR>First of all: can the foundry handle the load and second: what's the
better solution in order to increase our redundancy?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=315045123-30112004>Thanks for your help
in advance,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=315045123-30112004>Gunther</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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