<font color="#330099"><font size="2"><font face="comic sans ms,sans-serif">Brian hi,<br><br>as datasheet says, CES supports two software licenses kits:<br><br>1) ME_PREM supports rich set of Ethernet capabilities: PB, PBB, EOAM; from MPLS side only VPLS/VLL supported and subset of L3 (no BGP)<br>
2) L3_PREM is just pure L3 switch (BASE + full L3 incl. Multi-VRF)<br><br>On the other hand, CER supports everything above and full MPLS suite in ADV_SVC_PREM. Looks like they are similar in hardware, difference just in positioning, exactly like for Cisco's 6500 (switching platform) and 7600 (routing platform).<br>
<br>Any comments on this?<br></font></font></font><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 1 June 2010 04:16, Brian Stadtmiller <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:brian@terabitsystems.net">brian@terabitsystems.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Good question, because I have the NI-CES-2024C-MEPREM-AC in
stock which has the “metro edge prem” license on it,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">So is this the same as a base CER? Typically “S” is for switch
aka L2 and “R” is for router aka L3 in the foundry world,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">But PREM is also L3 and then metro-edge prem(?), now I am
getting a little confused.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Here is from the price list CES portion:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">“</span><span style="font-size: 8pt;">The NetIron CES 2000 Series of switches is a family of
1 RU fixed form factor Layer 3 edge/aggregation switches that is purpose built
for advanced Carrier Ethernet, metro edge/aggregation and high-end data center
applications. These switches deliver wire-speed 24-port and 48-port 10/100/1000
Mbps or 100/1000</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 8pt;">SFP
to 10GbE aggregation in a compact, fixed-configuration 1 RU form factor. With
support for upto 2 optional 10GbE ports, the NetIron CES 2000 Series of</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 8pt;">switches
provide a smooth migration from Gigabit Ethernet to 10-Gigabit Ethernet.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 8pt;">The
NetIron CES 2000 series switches are MEF certified and designed to deliver an
optimized set of Layer 2, IPv4 and Advanced Layer 2 services based on</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 8pt;">Provider
Bridging (PB) and Provider Backbone Bridging (PBB). The NetIron CES 2000 Series
switches are powered by Foundry's proven Multi-Service IronWare</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 8pt;">operating
system software.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 8pt;">The
BASE software package in the NetIron CES 2000 Series comes with the classic
Layer 2 capabilities, ACLs, basic Layer 3 capabilities (static routing, RIP</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 8pt;">v1/v2,
VRRP, VRRP-E), QoS capabilities and management support. Upgrade packages are
available for:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 8pt;">-
Layer 3 Premium software package (including OSPFv2, BGPv4, IS-IS) in addition
to the capabilities in the BASE software package and</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 8pt;">-
Metro Edge Premium software package (including PB, PBB, 802.1ag CFM, Ethernet
Service Instance ESI framework)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 8pt;">All
units ship with a console cable and US power cord unless otherwise specified at
time of order. All orders include one (1) integral power supply, manual on</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 8pt;">CD-ROM, and rack ears affixed
to the unit. These switches are upgradeable with one redundant, hot-swappable power
supply.”</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">brian</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> <a href="mailto:foundry-nsp-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">foundry-nsp-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:foundry-nsp-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">foundry-nsp-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Vladimir
Litovka<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 31, 2010 2:26 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:foundry-nsp@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">foundry-nsp@puck.nether.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [f-nsp] difference between NI-CES & CER devices?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Comic Sans MS"; color: rgb(51, 0, 153);">Colleagues hi<br>
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looking in datasheets of NI-CES and -CER devices and see the only notable
difference between them which is software capabilities - looks like CES is more
oriented on L2 applications (incl. VPLS), while CER is "CES + fully
functional MPLS edge". Right? Any other differences?<br>
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