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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The CER has significantly more CAM and can take up to 512,000 IPv4 routes. The CES can only carry 32,000 IPv4 routes in its FIB.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>-Ryan<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> foundry-nsp-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:foundry-nsp-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Vladimir Litovka<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 01, 2010 12:28 AM<br><b>To:</b> Brian Stadtmiller; foundry-nsp@puck.nether.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [f-nsp] difference between NI-CES & CER devices?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#330099'>Brian hi,<br><br>as datasheet says, CES supports two software licenses kits:<br><br>1) ME_PREM supports rich set of Ethernet capabilities: PB, PBB, EOAM; from MPLS side only VPLS/VLL supported and subset of L3 (no BGP)<br>2) L3_PREM is just pure L3 switch (BASE + full L3 incl. Multi-VRF)<br><br>On the other hand, CER supports everything above and full MPLS suite in ADV_SVC_PREM. Looks like they are similar in hardware, difference just in positioning, exactly like for Cisco's 6500 (switching platform) and 7600 (routing platform).<br><br>Any comments on this?</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 1 June 2010 04:16, Brian Stadtmiller <<a href="mailto:brian@terabitsystems.net">brian@terabitsystems.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Good question, because I have the NI-CES-2024C-MEPREM-AC in stock which has the “metro edge prem” license on it,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>So is this the same as a base CER? Typically “S” is for switch aka L2 and “R” is for router aka L3 in the foundry world,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>But PREM is also L3 and then metro-edge prem(?), now I am getting a little confused.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Here is from the price list CES portion:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>“</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt'>The NetIron CES 2000 Series of switches is a family of 1 RU fixed form factor Layer 3 edge/aggregation switches that is purpose built for advanced Carrier Ethernet, metro edge/aggregation and high-end data center applications. These switches deliver wire-speed 24-port and 48-port 10/100/1000 Mbps or 100/1000</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:8.0pt'>SFP to 10GbE aggregation in a compact, fixed-configuration 1 RU form factor. With support for upto 2 optional 10GbE ports, the NetIron CES 2000 Series of</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:8.0pt'>switches provide a smooth migration from Gigabit Ethernet to 10-Gigabit Ethernet.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:8.0pt'>The NetIron CES 2000 series switches are MEF certified and designed to deliver an optimized set of Layer 2, IPv4 and Advanced Layer 2 services based on</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:8.0pt'>Provider Bridging (PB) and Provider Backbone Bridging (PBB). The NetIron CES 2000 Series switches are powered by Foundry's proven Multi-Service IronWare</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:8.0pt'>operating system software.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:8.0pt'>The BASE software package in the NetIron CES 2000 Series comes with the classic Layer 2 capabilities, ACLs, basic Layer 3 capabilities (static routing, RIP</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:8.0pt'>v1/v2, VRRP, VRRP-E), QoS capabilities and management support. Upgrade packages are available for:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:8.0pt'>- Layer 3 Premium software package (including OSPFv2, BGPv4, IS-IS) in addition to the capabilities in the BASE software package and</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:8.0pt'>- Metro Edge Premium software package (including PB, PBB, 802.1ag CFM, Ethernet Service Instance ESI framework)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:8.0pt'>All units ship with a console cable and US power cord unless otherwise specified at time of order. All orders include one (1) integral power supply, manual on</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:8.0pt'>CD-ROM, and rack ears affixed to the unit. These switches are upgradeable with one redundant, hot-swappable power supply.”</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>brian</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-color:-moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <a href="mailto:foundry-nsp-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">foundry-nsp-bounces@puck.nether.net</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:foundry-nsp-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">foundry-nsp-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Vladimir Litovka<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 31, 2010 2:26 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:foundry-nsp@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">foundry-nsp@puck.nether.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [f-nsp] difference between NI-CES & CER devices?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#330099'>Colleagues hi<br><br>looking in datasheets of NI-CES and -CER devices and see the only notable difference between them which is software capabilities - looks like CES is more oriented on L2 applications (incl. VPLS), while CER is "CES + fully functional MPLS edge". Right? Any other differences?<br><br>Thank you.<br clear=all></span><br>-- <br>/doka<br><br>/*-- <a href="http://doka-ua.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">http://doka-ua.blogspot.com/</a> --*/<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>No virus found in this incoming message.<br>Checked by AVG - <a href="http://www.avg.com" target="_blank">www.avg.com</a><br>Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2893 - Release Date: 05/31/10 06:25:00</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br clear=all><br>-- <br>/doka<br><br>/*-- <a href="http://doka-ua.blogspot.com/">http://doka-ua.blogspot.com/</a> --*/<o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>