<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Sorry,</div><div><br></div><div>I can't as my clients end feed points are tagged.</div><div><br></div><div>Just want to know if what I'm proposing is right ?</div><div><br></div><div>Best regards.<br><br><br></div><div><br>Le 2 oct. 2014 à 20:35, "<a href="http://i3D.net">i3D.net</a> - Martijn Schmidt" <<a href="mailto:martijnschmidt@i3d.net">martijnschmidt@i3d.net</a>> a écrit :<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
  
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    Youssef,<br>
    <br>
    Can't you specify an untagged VPLS end-point for the customer-facing
    port, and then supplement it with the tag-type 9100? This is the way
    you'd do it on a VLL, it makes sense to have it work that way on
    VPLS too. Copying from the manual:<br>
    <br>
    <big><big>Specifying an untagged endpoint</big></big><br>
    <br>
    To specify an untagged endpoint for a VPLS instance, enter commands
    such as the following.<br>
    <br>
    <font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">Brocade(config-mpls)#
      vpls v1 40000<br>
      Brocade(config-mpls-vpls-v1)# vlan 100<br>
      Brocade(config-mpls-vpls-v1-vlan-100)# untagged ethernet 2/1</font><br>
    <br>
    <b>Syntax: [no] untagged [ethernet] portnum</b><br>
    <br>
    NOTE<br>
    Foundry Discovery Protocol (FDP) must not be enabled on an untagged
    VPLS or VLL endpoint.<br>
    <br>
    Best regards,<br>
    Martijn<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/02/2014 08:23 PM, Youssef
      Bengelloun-Zahr wrote:<br>
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            <div>Dear Martijn,<br>
              <br>
            </div>
            Thank you for your feedback but I'm trying to achieve the
            other way around ie strip Provider's outer VLAN.<br>
            <br>
            We do agree on the fact that provider-facing port has to be
            declared as expecting QinQ frames :<br>
            <br>
            tag-type 9100 ethe X/Y.<br>
            <br>
          </div>
          Then, I have to "strip out" outer-VLAN and declare my end
          clients 802.1Q VLANs in their VPLS instances :<br>
          <br>
          <div><a moz-do-not-send="true" name="148cb2da0b402206_1084050">Brocade(config-mpls)#vpls
              test 10</a></div>
          <div><a moz-do-not-send="true" name="148cb2da0b402206_1084054">Brocade(config-mpls-vpls-test10)#vlan
              X inner-vlan Y</a></div>
          <div><a moz-do-not-send="true" name="148cb2da0b402206_1084058">Brocade(config-mpls-vpls-test_10-vlan-X-inner-vlan-Y)#tagged
              Ethernet 2/1</a></div>
          <br>
          X being SP transport VLAN (outer VLAN) and Y being clustomer
          VLAN (inner VLAN).<br>
          <br>
        </div>
        I am correct ?<br>
        <br>
        Thanks.<br>
        <div>
          <div><br>
            <br>
            <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
              <div class="gmail_quote">2014-10-02 18:32 GMT+02:00
                <a href="http://i3D.net">i3D.net</a> - Martijn Schmidt <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:martijnschmidt@i3d.net" target="_blank">martijnschmidt@i3d.net</a>></span>:<br>
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                  <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Hello Youssef,<br>
                    <br>
                    It looks something like the below for MPLS VLL, I
                    haven't experimented with VPLS yet but suspect you'd
                    have to terminate as untagged as well:<br>
                    <br>
                    tag-type 9100 ethe 7/2<br>
                    <br>
                     vll MODERATED 3003<br>
                      vll-peer A.B.C.D<br>
                      untag e 7/2<br>
                    <br>
                    SSH@MODERATED#show vlan e 7/2<br>
                    VLL name                           MODERATED, VLL
                    ID:              3003, VLAN:    1  Untagged<br>
                    <br>
                    Best regards,<br>
                    Martijn
                    <div>
                      <div class="h5"><br>
                        <br>
                        <div>On 10/02/2014 05:37 PM, Youssef
                          Bengelloun-Zahr wrote:<br>
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                              <div>Hello Martijn,<br>
                                <br>
                              </div>
                              Would care to share some configuration
                              example please ?<br>
                              <br>
                            </div>
                            Best regards.<br>
                            <br>
                            <br>
                          </div>
                          <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                            <div class="gmail_quote">2014-10-02 17:25
                              GMT+02:00 <a href="http://i3D.net">i3D.net</a> - Martijn Schmidt <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:martijnschmidt@i3d.net" target="_blank">martijnschmidt@i3d.net</a>></span>:<br>
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                                <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
                                  Youssef,<br>
                                  <br>
                                  In our experience with QinQ over MPLS
                                  VLL, not VPLS, you'll want to make the
                                  customer-facing MPLS port untagged.<br>
                                  <br>
                                  QinQ will then encapsulate the whole
                                  thing, dump it into the VLL as a
                                  single "instance/VLAN", and <random
                                  device> on the other side of the
                                  line can unpack it again.<br>
                                  <br>
                                  Best regards,<br>
                                  Martijn
                                  <div>
                                    <div><br>
                                      <br>
                                      <div>On 10/02/2014 05:15 PM,
                                        Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr wrote:<br>
                                      </div>
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                                    <div>
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                                          <div>Hello,<br>
                                            <br>
                                            Anyone ?<br>
                                            <br>
                                          </div>
                                          Y.<br>
                                          <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                            <br>
                                            <br>
                                            <div class="gmail_quote">2014-10-01
                                              12:07 GMT+02:00 Youssef
                                              Bengelloun-Zahr <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:youssef@720.fr" target="_blank">youssef@720.fr</a>></span>:<br>
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                                                        <div>
                                                          <div>Dear
                                                          Community,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          A provider of
                                                          ours is
                                                          handing off
                                                          clients VLANs
                                                          over a fiber
                                                          interco using
                                                          QinQ (outer
                                                          VLAN is for
                                                          transport on
                                                          their network
                                                          and inner VLAN
                                                          is our end
                                                          client).<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        We actually
                                                        terminate this
                                                        on a Cisco ME
                                                        but would like
                                                        to move that to
                                                        an MLXe action
                                                        as MPLS PE and
                                                        map VLANs into
                                                        different MPLS
                                                        instances.<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      I wanted to
                                                      confirm the exact
                                                      stanza based on
                                                      what I found in
                                                      NI5.4 config guide
                                                      :<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    1/ Activate QinQ on
                                                    the provider facing
                                                    port :<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    tag-type 9100 ethe
                                                    X/Y.<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>I found this
                                                    section in the guide
                                                    related to this :<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <div><a moz-do-not-send="true" name="148d1b487366bf18_148d17677fb5b28d_148cb2da0b402206_1084042">"<i>Special


                                                          considerations
                                                          for
                                                          dual-tagged
                                                          endpoints</i></a></div>
                                                    <i> </i>
                                                    <div><i><a moz-do-not-send="true" name="148d1b487366bf18_148d17677fb5b28d_148cb2da0b402206_1084043">Before
                                                          configuring a
                                                          dual-tagged
                                                          VPLS endpoint,
                                                          consider the
                                                          following:</a></i></div>
                                                    <i> </i>
                                                    <div style="margin-left:0pt">
                                                      <table summary="" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
                                                        <tbody>
                                                          <tr style="vertical-align:baseline">
                                                          <td>
                                                          <div style="width:18pt;white-space:nowrap">
                                                          <i><span>• </span></i>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </td>
                                                          <td width="100%">
                                                          <div><i><a moz-do-not-send="true" name="148d1b487366bf18_148d17677fb5b28d_148cb2da0b402206_1084044">The
                                                          tag protocol
                                                          identifier
                                                          (TPID) of the
                                                          inner VLAN tag
                                                          must be 0x8100
                                                          be classified
                                                          as dual-tagged
                                                          and recognized
                                                          by dual-tagged
                                                          endpoints. If
                                                          the TPID is
                                                          not 0x8100,
                                                          the packet
                                                          will be
                                                          classified as
                                                          a
                                                          single-tagged
                                                          packet.</a></i></div>
                                                          </td>
                                                          </tr>
                                                        </tbody>
                                                      </table>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <i> </i><i> </i>
                                                    <table summary="" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
                                                      <tbody>
                                                        <tr style="vertical-align:baseline">
                                                          <td>
                                                          <div style="width:18pt;white-space:nowrap">
                                                          <i><span>• </span></i>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </td>
                                                          <td width="100%"><i>
                                                          </i>
                                                          <div><a moz-do-not-send="true" name="148d1b487366bf18_148d17677fb5b28d_148cb2da0b402206_1084045"><i>The
                                                          TPI</i>D of
                                                          the outer VLAN
                                                          tag must be
                                                          the port’s
                                                          configured tag
                                                          type (the
                                                          default tag
                                                          type is
                                                          0x8100)."</a></div>
                                                          </td>
                                                        </tr>
                                                      </tbody>
                                                    </table>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  2/ Map client VLAN
                                                  into the different
                                                  VPLS instances :<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  <div><a moz-do-not-send="true" name="148d1b487366bf18_148d17677fb5b28d_148cb2da0b402206_1084050">Brocade(config-mpls)#vpls


                                                      test 10</a></div>
                                                  <div><a moz-do-not-send="true" name="148d1b487366bf18_148d17677fb5b28d_148cb2da0b402206_1084054">Brocade(config-mpls-vpls-test10)#vlan


                                                      X inner-vlan Y</a></div>
                                                  <div><a moz-do-not-send="true" name="148d1b487366bf18_148d17677fb5b28d_148cb2da0b402206_1084058">Brocade(config-mpls-vpls-test_10-vlan-X-inner-vlan-Y)#tagged


                                                      Ethernet 2/1</a></div>
                                                  <br>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>X being
                                                          SP transport
                                                          VLAN (outer
                                                          VLAN) and Y
                                                          being
                                                          clustomer VLAN
                                                          (inner VLAN).<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Does that
                                                          sound about
                                                          right to you ?<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Thanks
                                                          for the
                                                          feedbacks.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Best
                                                          regards.<span><font color="#888888"><br clear="all">
                                                          </font></span></div>
                                                          <span><font color="#888888">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          -- <br>
                                                          Youssef
                                                          BENGELLOUN-ZAHR<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </font></span></div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                        </div>
                                                      </div>
                                                    </div>
                                                  </div>
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                                            </div>
                                            <br>
                                            <br clear="all">
                                            <br>
                                            -- <br>
                                            Youssef BENGELLOUN-ZAHR<br>
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                                  <font face="arial">Best regards,<br>
                                    <br>
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                            <br>
                            -- <br>
                            Youssef BENGELLOUN-ZAHR<br>
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                        <br>
                        <br>
                        <br>
                        <font face="arial">Best regards,<br>
                          <br>
                          Martijn Schmidt<br>
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                          Technology Fast 500 EMEA as one of the fastest
                          growing technology companies. <br>
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                  </div>
                </blockquote>
              </div>
              <br>
              <br clear="all">
              <br>
              -- <br>
              Youssef BENGELLOUN-ZAHR<br>
            </div>
          </div>
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    <br>
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<br>
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