From Yardleyite at AOL.COM  Sun Dec  1 12:31:24 2002
From: Yardleyite at AOL.COM (Joe Cro N3IBX)
Date: Sun Dec 01 10:31:24 2002 MST
Subject: NC-270
Message-ID: <mailman.13122.1294703099.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


In a message dated 12/1/02 9:04:38 AM Pacific Standard Time,
brianmwood at DIRECWAY.COM writes:


> I thought I'd ask if anyone on the list has an NC-270 and could tell me
> if they have noticeable hum when the audio gain is turned down. I also have
> a fair amount of microphonics from the two audio stages (6T8 and 6CW5). A
> three-prong cord helped a little, but not enough.


Brian - I own a National NC-270 and it does not exhibit the problem with hum
that you mentioned. Did you go through all of the audio stages and check
tubes, connections, etc? What about power supply electrolytics?
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From rayfri at NETWORLD.COM  Sun Dec  1 14:08:53 2002
From: rayfri at NETWORLD.COM (rayfri)
Date: Sun Dec 01 12:08:53 2002 MST
Subject: NC-270
Message-ID: <mailman.13123.1294703099.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Noticable hum in the audio, especially when the volume control is turned down
or all the way down, is usually a sign of a leaky or bad filter capacitor in
the power supply.
It's not filtering out the AC component left after rectification....
I'd start checking there first...     bridge the filter caps with a known good
one..
if the hum decreases or disappears,  you've found your culprit...



Brian Wood wrote:

> Thanks to everyone who helped me figure out what the problem was with the
> DX-100 grid current flicker. Turned out to be the 47 pf loading cap on the
> final grids. Bob, W3CD gets the prize for that one.
>
> I'm now working on my National NC-270. The receiver has a lot of hum in the
> audio. I don't know if this is normal for a boatanchor receiver, since hum
> was something we just lived with when using ac filament power, if I recall.
> But I thought I'd ask if anyone on the list has an NC-270 and could tell me
> if they have noticeable hum when the audio gain is turned down. I also have
> a fair amount of microphonics from the two audio stages (6T8 and 6CW5). A
> three-prong cord helped a little, but not enough. I also added 3 big filter
> caps to the supply, and that had no effect. Would appreciate any ideas. AS
> this is off-topic, please reply off-list.
>
> 73,
>
> Brian, W0DZ
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From jbkking at BELLSOUTH.NET  Sun Dec  1 16:24:16 2002
From: jbkking at BELLSOUTH.NET (john w. king)
Date: Sun Dec 01 14:24:16 2002 MST
Subject: Heath SB221 to 10 meters?
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I just acquired a Heath SB 221 and haven't opened it up to take a look. I
notice that the bandswitch is only marked 80 meters through 15 meters. Can
the SB 221 be put on 10 meters with minor additions and modifications? I
guess my question is whether the SB 221 bandswitch is only a 4 position
switch or is it a 5 position with a "stop" than can be removed and the
appropriate coils and caps added.

Your input will be greatly appreciated. Thanks and 73, John, K5PGW

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From OTAKEBI at AOL.COM  Sun Dec  1 17:13:41 2002
From: OTAKEBI at AOL.COM (Dan Pividal N4VET)
Date: Sun Dec 01 15:13:41 2002 MST
Subject: SB401 Problem Help Please
Message-ID: <mailman.13125.1294703099.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Have an SB401 that has an intermittent problem.
The problem seems to take place if the SB401 is not used every day.
If I use the rig everyday it will not malfunction.
If I do not use the rig for two or three weeks problem gets very bad.
Seems that I get only the RF output that the final bias of 50ma would give
me.
I get no grid and only 50ma on the meter.
I can hear the relay kick in but I hear no load on the transformer.
The only way I can get RF output is to tap ever so gently on the carrier
generator board or the mixer-bandpass board.
And, when I say it only takes a gentle tap I mean it.
Once I get radio to work it puts out full power and no more problems.
If it sits for more than a day I have to do the tap again or if no longer
than a day the pushing of the mike several times to activate vibrations from
the relay causes the unit to come to life.
If I turn up the driver control all the way when I click the mike on and off
makes this fix work faster.
I do not think this could be a resistor or capacitor problem since the
symptoms go away completely once the unit works.
I have checked for bad solder joints and have found non.
I have replaced tubes and problem pops up again.
Can anyone come up with any ideas?
Thanks,
Dan

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From rfb100 at CUISP.COM  Sun Dec  1 17:19:45 2002
From: rfb100 at CUISP.COM (Richard Bidwell)
Date: Sun Dec 01 15:19:45 2002 MST
Subject: Request for Info
Message-ID: <mailman.13126.1294703099.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Hi  --  I have a request that maybe someone can answer, although it isn't technical.  My first Heathkit that I built  was in 1956, and it was a "hi-fi" unit with a separate speaker.  I can't recall much about the unit except that the output tubes were Mullard KT66s (?).  I believe the tuner and amplifier were in a single unit and, of course, mono only.  The  speaker case was white birch veneer and weighed a ton.  What I would like is a copy of the pertinent part of the 1956 catalog that would have this stuff in it, or a hint as to where I might find the info or at least a positive ident of the model so I can look for one.  Any advice would be most appreciated.  Cheers, Dick B.

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From johnph3 at JUNO.COM  Sun Dec  1 14:24:09 2002
From: johnph3 at JUNO.COM (John Q. Doe)
Date: Sun Dec 01 12:24:09 2002 MST
Subject: Heath SB-310
Message-ID: <mailman.13127.1294703099.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Hello Everyone: I'm new to the group. Was wondering if anyone had
an e-mailable copy of a manual for the Heath SB-310 receiver.
I also need one for an Hammarlund HQ-100A.
Thanks in advance. John

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From ke1fr at GIS.NET  Sun Dec  1 15:48:33 2002
From: ke1fr at GIS.NET (Robert Bertrand)
Date: Sun Dec 01 13:48:33 2002 MST
Subject: for sale
Message-ID: <mailman.13128.1294703099.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Hello All,
I recently moved to a new location and I no longer have much room.
So, I must part with some projects...
Here is what i have found so far...but more will follow.

Manuals....

1)  Heathkit Transistor Receiver.
Model XR-2P and Model XR-2L..original ,good shape,does have Check marks and writing..... 
asking  $3.00  Shipped...

2) Heathkit IG-42 sig-gen Photo copy   asking $5.00 Shipped...

3) Heath HW-12  
 80 mtr ssb Transceiver....not original but a nice copy.. asking $7.00 shipped...

4) Heathkit HM - 102 Rf Power meter. original copy,Fair shape
asking $3.00 shipped...

5) Heathkit Q multiplier.model QF-1 Photocopy ...
$5.00 shipped

6) Heathkit HR-10b 
new copy from the Manual man exc cond..
$10.00 Shipped

Parts equipment....

I got this in a trade and have not had the time or place to work on it ,
so I will sell these as Parts... 

I have a Heath pwr supply..model 2036-3 ..
I also have the
 Heathkit 2036-a 2 mtr Fm Tranceiver...(no Case) 
has the Mike (no PLug)
with the original Manual...
this Rig is in Pieces,the fellow I got it from.never found the time to resurect it..
Neither do I..
asking $30.00 shipped for the Two...

More will follow as soon as i have a chance to unpack them.......

thank you,
Robert Bertrand - Ke1fr
 

 

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From Milanbagel at CS.COM  Sun Dec  1 16:28:39 2002
From: Milanbagel at CS.COM (Milan Bagel K9HDX)
Date: Sun Dec 01 14:28:39 2002 MST
Subject: HO-10
Message-ID: <mailman.13129.1294703099.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Hi Folks,

I've been restoring these old monitors for several years and have accumulated
a lot of component parts.  No transformers or CRT's but many controls and
switches.  Drop me an e-mail if you need something.  Prices are reasonable.
Sorry but I don't have an inventory list... If you ask, I'll look!

Also, if you have a HO-10 sitting around that you never got restored, I'd be
interested in buying it or possibly repairing it for you.

73,

Milan  K9HDX

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From gzook at YAHOO.COM  Sun Dec  1 18:41:30 2002
From: gzook at YAHOO.COM (Glen Zook)
Date: Sun Dec 01 16:41:30 2002 MST
Subject: SB401 Problem Help Please
In-Reply-To: <25.31b61082.2b1be395@aol.com>
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Clean the relay contacts.  You can use plain "ole"
typing paper cut into small strips.

Also loosen and then retighten ALL of the screws that
hold the circuit boards to the chassis.  This will
make sure that the grounding is proper between them
and the rest of the transmitter.

In fact, it doesn't hurt to slightly loosen and then
retighten all of the hardware every couple of years
just to remove the corrosion that sometimes builds up.
 This also works to eliminate all sorts of problems on
other "boat anchor" equipment that use things like
tube sockets connected by screws to the chassis, etc.
Loose grounds can cause all sorts of problems.

Also, the solder connections can look good, but it
would not hurt to take a soldering iron and "hit" each
of them with a "spot" of new solder.  It is possible
that there is an internal problem with the solder
joint that does not "show up" by just looking.

Glen, K9STH


--- Dan Pividal N4VET <OTAKEBI at AOL.COM> wrote:

The only way I can get RF output is to tap ever so
gently on the carrier generator board or the
mixer-bandpass board. I have checked for bad solder
joints and have found non.

=====
Glen, K9STH

Web sites

http://home.attbi.com/~k9sth
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From gzook at YAHOO.COM  Sun Dec  1 18:48:24 2002
From: gzook at YAHOO.COM (Glen Zook)
Date: Sun Dec 01 16:48:24 2002 MST
Subject: Heath SB-310
In-Reply-To: <20021201.132409.300.0.johnph3@juno.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.13131.1294703099.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


The SB-310 is basically the same receiver as the
SB-300 or SB-301 (don't remember which right now, but
think it was the SB-300). The manuals for those
receivers can be found on BAMA

( http://bama.sbc.edu/ ).

Also, the manual for the HQ-100 (unfortunately not the
HQ-100A) can be found on that site as well.

Glen, K9STH


--- "John Q. Doe" <johnph3 at JUNO.COM> wrote:

Was wondering if anyone had an e-mailable copy of a
manual for the Heath SB-310 receiver. I also need one
for an Hammarlund HQ-100A.

=====
Glen, K9STH

Web sites

http://home.attbi.com/~k9sth
http://home.attbi.com/~zcomco

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From gzook at YAHOO.COM  Sun Dec  1 18:57:34 2002
From: gzook at YAHOO.COM (Glen Zook)
Date: Sun Dec 01 16:57:34 2002 MST
Subject: Cheyenne / Comanche dials
Message-ID: <mailman.13132.1294703099.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


A fellow amateur is sending me a Cheyenne transmitter
(I already have a Comanche receiver) so that I can go
about getting the artwork done for new dials for these
pieces of equipment.  Overlays and complete dials
should be available in a couple of weeks.  It looks
like the PVC "tail pipe" pieces that work for the
Apache and Mohawk dials will also work for the
Cheyenne and Comanche.

The new dials will be opaque, rather than translucent,
due to the material used for the dial itself.
However, PVC will not crack under normal
circumstances.

The product will be available both as a self-adhesive
overlay so that one will be able to make their own
dial and as a complete assembly for those who don't
want to go through all that trouble (at a "price", of
course!).

I will let everyone know when the artwork is complete
and I start printing the overlays.  These will be
described on http://home.attbi.com/~zcomco along with
the overlays / replacement dials for the Apache,
Mohawk, DX-100 series, and VF-1 which have been
available for a while.

If anyone has any questions, please feel free to ask.

Glen, K9STH

=====
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From wb8jkr at JUNO.COM  Sun Dec  1 19:11:41 2002
From: wb8jkr at JUNO.COM (Mark Graalman WB8JKR)
Date: Sun Dec 01 17:11:41 2002 MST
Subject: SB401 Problem Help Please
Message-ID: <mailman.13133.1294703099.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


I'd clean the relay contacts on both relays and make sure
the tube sockets are gripping the tube pins properly. Also
check and tighten the circuitboard to chassis hold down
screws.

Mark  WB8JKR


On Sun, 1 Dec 2002 17:13:41 EST Dan Pividal N4VET <OTAKEBI at AOL.COM>
writes:
> Have an SB401 that has an intermittent problem.
> The problem seems to take place if the SB401 is not used every day.
> If I use the rig everyday it will not malfunction.
> If I do not use the rig for two or three weeks problem gets very
> bad.
> Seems that I get only the RF output that the final bias of 50ma
> would give
> me.
> I get no grid and only 50ma on the meter.
> I can hear the relay kick in but I hear no load on the transformer.
> The only way I can get RF output is to tap ever so gently on the
> carrier
> generator board or the mixer-bandpass board.
> And, when I say it only takes a gentle tap I mean it.
> Once I get radio to work it puts out full power and no more
> problems.
> If it sits for more than a day I have to do the tap again or if no
> longer
> than a day the pushing of the mike several times to activate
> vibrations from
> the relay causes the unit to come to life.
> If I turn up the driver control all the way when I click the mike on
> and off
> makes this fix work faster.
> I do not think this could be a resistor or capacitor problem since
> the
> symptoms go away completely once the unit works.
> I have checked for bad solder joints and have found non.
> I have replaced tubes and problem pops up again.
> Can anyone come up with any ideas?
> Thanks,
> Dan
>
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From brianmwood at EMAIL.MSN.COM  Sun Dec  1 19:12:09 2002
From: brianmwood at EMAIL.MSN.COM (Brian Wood)
Date: Sun Dec 01 17:12:09 2002 MST
Subject: Request for Info
In-Reply-To: <001201c29987$c15c94e0$9ebaf043@richardb>
Message-ID: <mailman.13134.1294703099.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


I don't have a '56 catalog, but my '57 catalog shows a "Legato" Speaker
system kit for $325 ("Contemporary" model, HH-1-C - 231 lbs) or $345
("Traditional" model, HH-1-T, 246 lbs). Man, what a beast!

There were several amps and tuners you could have used. If you'd like, I'll
scan in a few pages and email them to you.

73,

Brian, W0DZ

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[mailto:HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV]On Behalf Of Richard Bidwell
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 3:20 PM
To: HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV
Subject: Request for Info


Hi  --  I have a request that maybe someone can answer, although it isn't
technical.  My first Heathkit that I built  was in 1956, and it was a
"hi-fi" unit with a separate speaker.  I can't recall much about the unit
except that the output tubes were Mullard KT66s (?).  I believe the tuner
and amplifier were in a single unit and, of course, mono only.  The  speaker
case was white birch veneer and weighed a ton.  What I would like is a copy
of the pertinent part of the 1956 catalog that would have this stuff in it,
or a hint as to where I might find the info or at least a positive ident of
the model so I can look for one.  Any advice would be most appreciated.
Cheers, Dick B.

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From ke1fr at GIS.NET  Sun Dec  1 22:30:59 2002
From: ke1fr at GIS.NET (Robert Bertrand)
Date: Sun Dec 01 20:30:59 2002 MST
Subject: wanted
Message-ID: <mailman.13135.1294703099.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


thanks for all the interest in my earlier for sale..
i will add more later..

I am in need though  of a dial for an HW-8 and an 80 meter
tuning slug for it.. 
thank you

Robert Bertrand - Ke1fr
P.O.Box 259
Charlemont,Ma 01339

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From ke1fr at GIS.NET  Sun Dec  1 22:36:46 2002
From: ke1fr at GIS.NET (Robert Bertrand)
Date: Sun Dec 01 20:36:46 2002 MST
Subject: wanted
Message-ID: <mailman.13136.1294703099.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


well again it seems like I may have Goofed..
sorry fellows,Having some difficulty with my Isp connection.
I am in the need of a dial for an HW-8 also an 80 Mtr tuning slug..
thank you 

Robert Bertrand - Ke1fr
P.O.Box 259
Charlemont,Ma 01339

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From wittfa19 at EARTHLINK.NET  Sun Dec  1 22:56:33 2002
From: wittfa19 at EARTHLINK.NET (Fred Wittman)
Date: Sun Dec 01 20:56:33 2002 MST
Subject: NC-270
Message-ID: <mailman.13137.1294703099.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


You might want to check for a leaking bypass cap on any of the cathode bias
resistors.  Just a guess, but I seem to remember a similar problem years ago
with an old Zenith table radio.

73,

Fred W.  --  KG6NYK
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Wood" <brianmwood at DIRECWAY.COM>
To: <HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV>
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 8:41 PM
Subject: NC-270


> Thanks to everyone who helped me figure out what the problem was with the
> DX-100 grid current flicker. Turned out to be the 47 pf loading cap on the
> final grids. Bob, W3CD gets the prize for that one.
>
> I'm now working on my National NC-270. The receiver has a lot of hum in
the
> audio. I don't know if this is normal for a boatanchor receiver, since hum
> was something we just lived with when using ac filament power, if I
recall.
> But I thought I'd ask if anyone on the list has an NC-270 and could tell
me
> if they have noticeable hum when the audio gain is turned down. I also
have
> a fair amount of microphonics from the two audio stages (6T8 and 6CW5). A
> three-prong cord helped a little, but not enough. I also added 3 big
filter
> caps to the supply, and that had no effect. Would appreciate any ideas. AS
> this is off-topic, please reply off-list.
>
> 73,
>
> Brian, W0DZ
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From wittfa19 at EARTHLINK.NET  Sun Dec  1 22:59:18 2002
From: wittfa19 at EARTHLINK.NET (Fred Wittman)
Date: Sun Dec 01 20:59:18 2002 MST
Subject: SB401 Problem Help Please
Message-ID: <mailman.13138.1294703099.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Are the relay contacts possibly oxydized?

Fred W.  --  KG6NYK
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Pividal N4VET" <OTAKEBI at AOL.COM>
To: <HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV>
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 2:13 PM
Subject: SB401 Problem Help Please


> Have an SB401 that has an intermittent problem.
> The problem seems to take place if the SB401 is not used every day.
> If I use the rig everyday it will not malfunction.
> If I do not use the rig for two or three weeks problem gets very bad.
> Seems that I get only the RF output that the final bias of 50ma would give
> me.
> I get no grid and only 50ma on the meter.
> I can hear the relay kick in but I hear no load on the transformer.
> The only way I can get RF output is to tap ever so gently on the carrier
> generator board or the mixer-bandpass board.
> And, when I say it only takes a gentle tap I mean it.
> Once I get radio to work it puts out full power and no more problems.
> If it sits for more than a day I have to do the tap again or if no longer
> than a day the pushing of the mike several times to activate vibrations
from
> the relay causes the unit to come to life.
> If I turn up the driver control all the way when I click the mike on and
off
> makes this fix work faster.
> I do not think this could be a resistor or capacitor problem since the
> symptoms go away completely once the unit works.
> I have checked for bad solder joints and have found non.
> I have replaced tubes and problem pops up again.
> Can anyone come up with any ideas?
> Thanks,
> Dan
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From OTAKEBI at AOL.COM  Mon Dec  2 01:14:02 2002
From: OTAKEBI at AOL.COM (Dan Pividal N4VET)
Date: Sun Dec 01 23:14:02 2002 MST
Subject: More Help Needed on SB401
Message-ID: <mailman.13139.1294703099.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


I have now noticed that the grid fluctuates on the meter as I tap on the
boards.
The plate does not show any movement when I tap.
I have checked all tubes and tube pins.
I have cleaned relays.
I have sprayed contact cleaner on all controls.
And, I have checked ground on the boards.
I added additional ground wires to the trace on the boards and connected them
to ground.
I have subed all tubes.
What is causing this problem must be the size of a hair.
And, must be a part that vibrates at the slightest of taps and it controls
grid cur.
This is a real mystery.
Dan

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From tlee at WCOIL.COM  Mon Dec  2 06:46:52 2002
From: tlee at WCOIL.COM (Ted Lee)
Date: Mon Dec 02 04:46:52 2002 MST
Subject: WTB: SB-101 Escutcheon Face Plate
Message-ID: <mailman.13140.1294703099.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Looking  for an SB-101 Escutcheon Face Plate with SB-101 logo on it.
Send asking price with shipping to Ohio zip 45810

73  Ted  N8GPQ

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From w1id at FCGNETWORKS.NET  Mon Dec  2 08:16:13 2002
From: w1id at FCGNETWORKS.NET (Gerald C. Lemay)
Date: Mon Dec 02 06:16:13 2002 MST
Subject: SB401 Problem Help Please
In-Reply-To: <20021201234130.84817.qmail@web40207.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.13141.1294703099.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


As Glen says, retightening of the screws will improve grounding. Heathkit
had a habit of using the edges of pc boards coming in contact with the
chassis for ground connections. Unfortunately with time the contact area
oxidizes. I would even remove all the screws and clean the contact areas
between the boards and chassis. I've used Q tips soaked with contact
cleaner. I've seen a lot of rusted hardware in my old Heathkits. I believe
the hardware they used was 3-48 screws which are not widely available
nowadays. Sometimes you can substitute 4-40 or even 2-56 hardware. Loose
hardware is not only a Heathkit problem, it applies to most old radios as
well. Just finished working on a very early Drake T-4XC with similar
problems!

> Clean the relay contacts.  You can use plain "ole"
> typing paper cut into small strips.
>
> Also loosen and then retighten ALL of the screws that
> hold the circuit boards to the chassis.  This will
> make sure that the grounding is proper between them
> and the rest of the transmitter.
>
> In fact, it doesn't hurt to slightly loosen and then
> retighten all of the hardware every couple of years
> just to remove the corrosion that sometimes builds up.
>  This also works to eliminate all sorts of problems on
> other "boat anchor" equipment that use things like
> tube sockets connected by screws to the chassis, etc.
> Loose grounds can cause all sorts of problems.
>
> Also, the solder connections can look good, but it
> would not hurt to take a soldering iron and "hit" each
> of them with a "spot" of new solder.  It is possible
> that there is an internal problem with the solder
> joint that does not "show up" by just looking.
>
> Glen, K9STH
>
>
> --- Dan Pividal N4VET <OTAKEBI at AOL.COM> wrote:
>
> The only way I can get RF output is to tap ever so
> gently on the carrier generator board or the
> mixer-bandpass board. I have checked for bad solder
> joints and have found non.
>
> =====
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>
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From mkx at SYMPATICO.CA  Mon Dec  2 09:38:22 2002
From: mkx at SYMPATICO.CA (M. Kassay)
Date: Mon Dec 02 07:38:22 2002 MST
Subject: Dial wanted
Message-ID: <mailman.13142.1294703099.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


>
>
> I am in need though  of a dial for an HW-8 and an 80 meter
> tuning slug for it..
> thank you
>
>

     If you cant find a replacement dial, you can always have a ham scan a
'good dial'  in on a computer.  Then print the scan on a full size Avery
sticky label, then place it over the worn dial. Trim it to size.

 If you have a good printer, you would never notice the difference !

Just a last resort idea !
--
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VE3MKX / VA3HKT

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From ebjr at I-55.COM  Mon Dec  2 11:07:22 2002
From: ebjr at I-55.COM (Sandy, W5TVW)
Date: Mon Dec 02 09:07:22 2002 MST
Subject: BA/GB Gatherings....
Message-ID: <mailman.13143.1294703099.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Hello All,
    Winter is rapidly coming down on us.  The Boatanchor/Glowbug Net has been holding
forth irregularly on 3546.5 Khz. on around 0300Z nightly.  Everyone is invited to
join us.
If we are sending too fast, don't be bashful to ask us to QRS!  I am guessing the
activity
will be increasing with the winter months.  During daylight, you may find activity on
7050 or 10120 Khz.  There is an informal get-together at 1800Z on 10120.  W7ZFB,
K5DOA, W7QQQ, W5FRS, W5TVW and others check in.  (Mostly the "retired" bunch!)
    There has also been activity here lately on 1815 Khz on top band.  Don't let 160
meters
scare you off.  I have routinelt been contacting '5 watters' there in the past two
weeks.
Looks like a good season on 160 this winter!
    We'd love to have you disturb the 'ether' there with us.  Fire up that tube gear
and
tap your key!
    We all look forward to hearing from you all who can get the gear on the air.

73,
Sandy W5TVW
Pumpkin Center, LA

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From tlee at WCOIL.COM  Mon Dec  2 11:35:09 2002
From: tlee at WCOIL.COM (Ted Lee)
Date: Mon Dec 02 09:35:09 2002 MST
Subject: WTB: SB-230 meter
Message-ID: <mailman.13144.1294703099.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


I am looking for a replacement meter for my SB-230 amplifier(Heath Part
No. 407-185).  Send asking price with shipping to Ohio zip 45810 or I
have a meter for the SB-104 series I would trade for it.

73 Ted  N8GPQ

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From tlee at WCOIL.COM  Mon Dec  2 11:38:13 2002
From: tlee at WCOIL.COM (Ted Lee)
Date: Mon Dec 02 09:38:13 2002 MST
Subject: WTB: SB-200/SB201 filament choke
Message-ID: <mailman.13145.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Looking for the RF filament choke for the SB-200/201 amp.  Send asking
price with shipping to Ohio zip 45810.

73  Ted  N8GPQ

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From e.j.forwood at JUNO.COM  Mon Dec  2 12:27:47 2002
From: e.j.forwood at JUNO.COM (E. Jerold Forwood)
Date: Mon Dec 02 10:27:47 2002 MST
Subject: More Help Needed on SB-401
Message-ID: <mailman.13146.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


I have the same problem with my SB-401.  You can tap anywhere on the rig
and get it to the grid current reading to fluctuate.  You can also get it
to move by keying and un-keying.  You can also get it to change by
changing the meter switch.  I have determined that it is most probably
the meter switch.  I just watch the scope on my SB-614 and the output
meter on my SA-2060 antenna tuner and don't worry about it. I Guess it
depends on how paranoid you are.  TUNE FOR MAXIMUM SMOKE!!  Hi! Hi!
73's de Jerry K?EJF

On Mon, 2 Dec 2002 01:14:02 EST Dan Pividal N4VET <OTAKEBI at AOL.COM>
writes:
> I have now noticed that the grid fluctuates on the meter as I tap on
> the
> boards.
> The plate does not show any movement when I tap.
> I have checked all tubes and tube pins.
> I have cleaned relays.
> I have sprayed contact cleaner on all controls.
> And, I have checked ground on the boards.
> I added additional ground wires to the trace on the boards and
> connected them
> to ground.
> I have subed all tubes.
> What is causing this problem must be the size of a hair.
> And, must be a part that vibrates at the slightest of taps and it
> controls
> grid cur.
> This is a real mystery.
> Dan
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From wn3vaw at FYI.NET  Mon Dec  2 13:09:43 2002
From: wn3vaw at FYI.NET (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Mon Dec 02 11:09:43 2002 MST
Subject: Micoder II
Message-ID: <mailman.13147.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Thanks to all who responded to me about the Micoder II.

Special thanks to Dale K8PEO who came up with one for me; it arrived earlier
today.  It's in much better shape than my original one, so instead of
disecting it for the PTT switch, I'm planning to use it instead!

Still looking for a used tone encoder board for the Micoder and/or
HW-2036/2036A, should someone come across one in a junque boxe somewhere.
No rush.

73, ron wn3vaw

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From kc8jx at YAHOO.COM  Mon Dec  2 13:36:56 2002
From: kc8jx at YAHOO.COM (Larry Knapp)
Date: Mon Dec 02 11:36:56 2002 MST
Subject: BA/GB Gatherings....
In-Reply-To: <000401c29a1d$0a8ae8c0$a79ccdd1@ebjr>
Message-ID: <mailman.13148.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Sandy - This is great...Thanks for sharing these frequencies with the group.  I
hope to join in the fray one of these days & perhaps permanent...on CW of
course.  7050 for sure (DX-20/2NT)...maybe 10120 with my Drake pair....and even
perhaps 3546.  Thanks again........73, Larry KC8JX

--- "Sandy, W5TVW" <ebjr at I-55.COM> wrote:
> Hello All,
>     Winter is rapidly coming down on us.  The Boatanchor/Glowbug Net has been
> holding forth irregularly on 3546.5 Khz. on around 0300Z nightly.  Everyone
is
> invited to join us.  If we are sending too fast, don't be bashful to ask us
to QRS!  I am guessing the activity will be increasing with the winter months.
During daylight, you may find activity on 7050 or 10120 Khz.  There is an
informal get-together at 1800Z on 10120.  W7ZFB, K5DOA, W7QQQ, W5FRS, W5TVW and
others check in.  (Mostly the "retired" bunch!)
>     There has also been activity here lately on 1815 Khz on top band.  Don't
> let 160 meters scare you off.  I have routinelt been contacting '5 watters'
there in the past two weeks.  Looks like a good season on 160 this winter!
>     We'd love to have you disturb the 'ether' there with us.  Fire up that
> tube gear and tap your key!
>     We all look forward to hearing from you all who can get the gear on the
> air.
>
> 73,
> Sandy W5TVW
> Pumpkin Center, LA


=====
May your days be full of sunshine and good thoughts fill your head.
From: Larry Knapp, KC8JX, St. Joseph, Mi  49085
  Best 73's

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From docmickey at OUTDRS.NET  Mon Dec  2 14:26:49 2002
From: docmickey at OUTDRS.NET (Michael E. Rees)
Date: Mon Dec 02 12:26:49 2002 MST
Subject: Need Part
Message-ID: <mailman.13149.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Do anyone have or know where I can get a spring switch, part number
266-986?  This is for a HWA-5401 - A.C. Power Supply/Speaker/Digital
Clock.



KD7CVJ

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From tazzie at LOCALNET.COM  Mon Dec  2 18:23:55 2002
From: tazzie at LOCALNET.COM (Joseph W. Lutz)
Date: Mon Dec 02 16:23:55 2002 MST
Subject: COPIES OF MANUALS - ANY INTEREST??
Message-ID: <mailman.13150.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Hi,

   I continue to clean out the files and I have come up with the
following which is absolutely no use to me:

[1] MR-1 "Comanche" Mobile Receiver.  Copy contains Original schematic.

[1] MT-1 "Cheyenne" Mobile Transmitter. Cannot find page 30.
    Large copies of the Pictorials.

[1] Correspondence between Heathkit [C.A.Plummer K8CJI] & owner of
    MR/MT 'twins'.  Correspondence contains a number of "Special
    Notices" detailing changes and modifications to the twins that
    include modification to the MR-1 that will greatly improve the
    sensitivity of the set; one other change that may be necessary
    if you  have oscillations when the gain is turned wide open with
    the new injection.  Also included is the Special Notice on the
    connecting cable construction for the MR/MT units.

80+ pages on the MR-1 & 60+ pages on the MT-1.  Quality is good to
VG.   Will ship via USPS for $5.00.

[1] HD-20 Crystal Calibrator.

[1] HW-12A [75M SSB Xcvr] - Copy quality good to VG - No schematic.

Each of the above $4.00 shipped priority mail for each - unless the
same person wants both and then $4.00 for them both.

Let me know - will hold till next Monday - then they go to the burn
barrel.
73,
Joe

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From peterhiers at NETEZE.COM  Mon Dec  2 16:59:42 2002
From: peterhiers at NETEZE.COM (Peter Hiers)
Date: Mon Dec 02 14:59:42 2002 MST
Subject: Heath Kits etc found in Grandma's house
Message-ID: <mailman.13151.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


My family is in the process of clearing out my grandmother's house in eastern Pennsylvania.  We have unearthed a surprising collection of Heath Kit items, including I believe 7 unopened and unassembled original heath kits.  There is also a variety of parts, amps, assembled radios, and a wide variety of tubes, manuals, meters, and such which my uncle had as a main hobby.  I can barely lift one amp.  The collection fills nearly half a room. 

We would love to have someone who appreciates electronics and heath kits and tube-radios to look over what we have.  We are looking to sell it all off for a reasonable price, and help it all find a new home with someone who wants it. 

If you have any ideas on who we should contact, either in the greater area of eastern Pennsylvania, or anywhere, please let me know.  We have a narrow window of time to take care of this.  Please contact me asap.

Thanks for any help you might provide.  Best Holiday Wishes.

Peter Hiers

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From prosolar at SSSNET.COM  Mon Dec  2 21:08:17 2002
From: prosolar at SSSNET.COM (mike bryce)
Date: Mon Dec 02 19:08:17 2002 MST
Subject: ampkeyer ready!
Message-ID: <mailman.13152.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


boys and girls....

the AmpKeyer is shipping!

a trickle of cases have just come in. The PC boards were installed, and the
first run will ship this week. For more information, check out the web site

http://www.theheathkitshop.com/ampkeyer.html

The AmpKeyer is a solid state optical interface to marry our new radios to
an old amplifier. Works great with the Heathkit SB220 and SB200 amplifiers.

Those that have placed an order with me will get there units shipped out
this week. Again, only a trickle of cases have come in so far, but expect
more this coming week.



Mike Bryce WB8VGE
SunLight Energy Systems

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http://www.theheathkitshop.com

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From tazzie at LOCALNET.COM  Mon Dec  2 23:25:05 2002
From: tazzie at LOCALNET.COM (Joseph W. Lutz)
Date: Mon Dec 02 21:25:05 2002 MST
Subject: COPIES OF MANUALS - ANY INTEREST??
Message-ID: <mailman.13153.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


WOW!!

   The MR/MT package has been spoken for.  Perhaps the party that got
the package will make the information available to the Heath Gang.  I
am sorry I did not have more .



Hi,

   I continue to clean out the files and I have come up with the
following which is absolutely no use to me:

[1] MR-1 "Comanche" Mobile Receiver.  Copy contains Original
schematic.   *********GONE***********

[1] MT-1 "Cheyenne" Mobile Transmitter. Cannot find page 30.
    Large copies of the Pictorials.   **********GONE**********

[1] Correspondence between Heathkit [C.A.Plummer K8CJI] & owner of
    MR/MT 'twins'.  Correspondence contains a number of "Special
    Notices" detailing changes and modifications to the twins that
    include modification to the MR-1 that will greatly improve the
    sensitivity of the set; one other change that may be necessary
    if you  have oscillations when the gain is turned wide open with
    the new injection.  Also included is the Special Notice on the
    connecting cable construction for the MR/MT units.
                ***************GONE*************
80+ pages on the MR-1 & 60+ pages on the MT-1.  Quality is good to
VG.   Will ship via USPS for $5.00.

[1] HD-20 Crystal Calibrator.

[1] HW-12A [75M SSB Xcvr] - Copy quality good to VG - No schematic.

Each of the above $4.00 shipped priority mail for each - unless the
same person wants both and then $4.00 for them both.

Let me know - will hold till next Monday - then they go to the burn
barrel.
73,
Joe

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From w7prv at TELEPORT.COM  Mon Dec  2 23:35:41 2002
From: w7prv at TELEPORT.COM (FRED HOLNAGEL)
Date: Mon Dec 02 21:35:41 2002 MST
Subject: SB Parts
Message-ID: <mailman.13154.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Following for sale. Prices plus mailing. 

QTY                                      ITEM                                                           PRICE    
   3          Driver grid boards 85-133-2                                                  $5.00ea.
   3          Driver plate boards 85-133xxx                                               $5.00ea.    
   2          0-5 scales, clean plastic w/black strip and dial pointer.   $7.00ea
   2          Dial pointer drive arm with nylon follower.                            $5.00ea
Boards are fully populated

    1          Power transformer 54-807 from SB-401, PS, and HP        $ 15.00


     1         Astatic JT200 mike wih single contact connector. All brown finish, in good shape. Has JT40 cartridge. $30.00

All plus shipping from 98661
Thanks! 

Thanks for the view. W7PRV

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From Fobdul at AOL.COM  Mon Dec  2 21:12:59 2002
From: Fobdul at AOL.COM (John Q. Doe)
Date: Mon Dec 02 19:12:59 2002 MST
Subject: Unbuilt Heathkits for sale
Message-ID: <mailman.13155.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Hello - I am currently running 5 auctions on eBay (Dec1 thru Dec8, 8:00pm 
EST), for unbuilt, still in box Heathkit 'Blue Box' units.? I have one each 
of IB-5281 RLC Bridge, IG-5280 RF Gen, IG-5282 Audio Gen, IT-5283 Signal 
Tracer, and accessory IPA-5280 which supplies +/- 9V power for the units.? If 
anyone is interested in bidding, please find my auctions at:? <A HREF="http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=pomer13107&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=25">
http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=pomer13107&
include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=25</A>

I have a few more kits I may be interested in selling or trading, so please 
contact me if you're interested.? I'm selling some of my kits to pay for 
building a few choice ones.? I would dearly love to trade for an unbuilt 
scope, or GR-54, or ?? 

Thanks - DP

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From brianmwood at DIRECWAY.COM  Mon Dec  2 22:53:30 2002
From: brianmwood at DIRECWAY.COM (Brian Wood)
Date: Mon Dec 02 20:53:30 2002 MST
Subject: A couple of interesting tidbits
Message-ID: <mailman.13156.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Had to pass this along to the list. After I restored the DX-100 that you've
all read about ad infinitum here, I tracked down the owner whose name
appeared in the manual. He's 87, a former Collins tech named Jim. He told me
that he did not assemble it, but that he bought it from a local ham who did
not use it much. That ham's name was Don, but he said he could not remember
his call and that Don was no longer a ham. Well, Jim just sent me a letter
with Don's address. I looked in a 1971 Callbook in the vicinity of Jim's
call and found the guy. Guess what his call was back then...W0DCZ. Mine is
W0DZ. Is that spooky or what? Sent a chill up my spine, I'll tell ya.

Also, since someone on the list recently asked for something out of the '56
Heath catalog, I got to perusing my '57 catalog tonight and noticed that the
AG-8 audio oscillator looked strikingly familiar. You see, I work at
Agilent, once a part of Hewlett-Packard, and by a strange coincidence I was
just today looking at Bill Hewlett's patent for the 200A oscillator that
started HP. The patent was applied for in 1938 and granted in 1942. So, here
15 years later is the spittin' image of the patented 200A circuit in the
Heathkit catalog, complete with the lamp from the cathode to ground that
stabilized the oscillator. How long were patents good for back then? Wonder
if HP noticed, or even cared at that point!

73,

Brian, W0DZ

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From keith.hunt at SFCC.EDU  Tue Dec  3 07:31:18 2002
From: keith.hunt at SFCC.EDU (Hunt, Keith)
Date: Tue Dec 03 05:31:18 2002 MST
Subject: Cap voltage
Message-ID: <mailman.13157.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Does anyone know the voltage spec's of the Heath part#  21-57-   .005ufd
Disk Cap....
And  21-31-- .02ufd Cap? None of the markings have the voltage rating
and I sure don't want to underrate the voltage..
Thanks in advance..
Keith

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From apo at KOTINET.COM  Tue Dec  3 08:17:13 2002
From: apo at KOTINET.COM (oh8jep)
Date: Tue Dec 03 06:17:13 2002 MST
Subject: Good Linear Amplifier Calc software
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Hello!

Just an info for listmembers,here can be find very good software for linears amplifier designing.I am using it,and found it really very useful

73 de Aatos OH8JEP

http://www.lug.no/yl2qm/Developer.htm

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From angerli at ATTBI.COM  Tue Dec  3 22:14:08 2002
From: angerli at ATTBI.COM (Sandy Gerli, AC1Y/G5CPJ)
Date: Tue Dec 03 20:14:08 2002 MST
Subject: HW5400 w/PS or 9000 w/PS WANTED
Message-ID: <mailman.13159.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Hi, gang,

Looking for either of these rigs in working shape.

Thanks es 73,

Sandy

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From mgrandy at TELUS.NET  Wed Dec  4 00:02:18 2002
From: mgrandy at TELUS.NET (Murray Grandy)
Date: Tue Dec 03 22:02:18 2002 MST
Subject: hd-1234
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I wonder if someone would send me a scanned copy of pages 7, 8, 9 and 10 of
HD-1234  Coax Switch manual. Page 9 and 10 has been torn from mine. Also, I
have the stick on label for SB-401 and IOA-4510-1. These are labels that
were never put on for some reason. Anyone want these?
Murray
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From tlee at WCOIL.COM  Wed Dec  4 12:01:13 2002
From: tlee at WCOIL.COM (Ted Lee)
Date: Wed Dec 04 10:01:13 2002 MST
Subject: FS: SB-104 parts
Message-ID: <mailman.13161.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Parting out an SB-104 transceiver.  I can't guarantee any of the parts
or boards as radio was not working.  Here is what has been used by me or
sold so far:

VFO unit, PA board, ALC board, Display board.

Everything else is here.  Knob set is in poor shape.  Will quote price
on anything else that is left.  Just send an email.  May even do some
trading.

73  Ted  N8GPQ

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From w7prv at TELEPORT.COM  Wed Dec  4 12:21:25 2002
From: w7prv at TELEPORT.COM (FRED HOLNAGEL)
Date: Wed Dec 04 10:21:25 2002 MST
Subject: Off topic request
Message-ID: <mailman.13162.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Don't do this often but will convert to a boatanchor/Heath after repairing this item and selling it!  Looking for dead or alive battery for an Icom DJ-100T. Thanks

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From Ed.Goss at JHUAPL.EDU  Wed Dec  4 13:37:05 2002
From: Ed.Goss at JHUAPL.EDU (Goss, Ed)
Date: Wed Dec 04 11:37:05 2002 MST
Subject: Looking for Heath Stuff...
Message-ID: <mailman.13163.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Hello,
     I'm still trying to track down some Heath gear/parts:

HA-201a 2-meter amplifier
Plate/Grid (full clear plastic) meter for DX-60a (and some DX-60b models)
Dark green tuning knob for HG-10b VFO (also used on HR-10b receiver main
tuning and some other Heath gear)

Thanks for any help.
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From n4ocb at KENSHO.2Y.NET  Wed Dec  4 17:33:46 2002
From: n4ocb at KENSHO.2Y.NET (Brad Baker)
Date: Wed Dec 04 15:33:46 2002 MST
Subject: Wanted: SB-610 pwr transformer
Message-ID: <mailman.13164.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Looking for a SB-610 station monitor power transformer. Part number
available if needed.

--
Brad Baker, n4ocb

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From tazzie at LOCALNET.COM  Wed Dec  4 18:13:52 2002
From: tazzie at LOCALNET.COM (Joseph W. Lutz)
Date: Wed Dec 04 16:13:52 2002 MST
Subject: FS:  HOT WATER HANDBOOK 1ST & 2ND ED [COPIES]
Message-ID: <mailman.13165.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Hi all,

  Found some more goodies taking up space in the file cabinets.

ITEM 1:  The Hot Water Handbook - a collection of articles on the
         Heath HW8 QRP CW transceiver.  Very Good copies of both
         First Edition 1985 & Second Edition 1986.  Included is a
         schematic of the HW-8.   $5.00 Shipped Priority Mail/Conus.

ITEM 2:  Several copies of SB-201 10 Meter Conversion.  Those that
         wish a copy send me a SASE business size envelope and I will
         see that you get one.  [I am good in QRZ - + others]

73,
Joe W7LPF

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From tazzie at LOCALNET.COM  Wed Dec  4 22:59:34 2002
From: tazzie at LOCALNET.COM (Joseph W. Lutz)
Date: Wed Dec 04 20:59:34 2002 MST
Subject: FS:  HOT WATER HANDBOOK 1ST & 2ND ED [COPIES]]
Message-ID: <mailman.13166.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


*************************UPDATE******************************

Item 1 has been spoken for.  If it falls through I will repost.
Thanks
73,
Joe W7LPF

Hi all,

  Found some more goodies taking up space in the file cabinets.

ITEM 1:  The Hot Water Handbook - a collection of articles on the
         Heath HW8 QRP CW transceiver.  Very Good copies of both
         First Edition 1985 & Second Edition 1986.  Included is a
         schematic of the HW-8.   $5.00 Shipped Priority Mail/Conus.

ITEM 2:  Several copies of SB-201 10 Meter Conversion.  Those that
         wish a copy send me a SASE business size envelope and I will
         see that you get one.  [I am good in QRZ - + others]

73,
Joe W7LPF
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From tazzie at LOCALNET.COM  Wed Dec  4 23:22:01 2002
From: tazzie at LOCALNET.COM (Joseph W. Lutz)
Date: Wed Dec 04 21:22:01 2002 MST
Subject: FS: MISC HEATHKIT ITEMS
Message-ID: <mailman.13167.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Following items available:

[1] Heathkit HS-24 [Mobile Speaker] - Original Manual.
    $25.00 shipped/Conus

[2] Heathkit HP-13A [Mobile Power Supply] with connecting power
    cable.  Have Original HP-13 Manual.
    $30.00 plus shipping from 15905

 73,
Joe W7LPF

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From WB7TNE at ATTBI.COM  Thu Dec  5 14:18:20 2002
From: WB7TNE at ATTBI.COM (Daryle Brooks/Wb7Tne)
Date: Thu Dec 05 12:18:20 2002 MST
Subject: OFF TOPIC PARTS....HW-8?
Message-ID: <mailman.13168.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


HELLO ALL.JUST A NOTE FORWARDING AN EMAIL ADDRESS THAT MIGHT BE OF USE TO ALL
THE GREEN MACHINE OWNERS OUT THERE.HTTP://WWW.MASTERBOND.COM. HAS ALOT OF
EPOXIES FOR ELECTRONICS.HAVEN'T USED THEIR PRODUCTS AS YET AND DON'T ENDORSE
ANY.ALSO NEED A METER FOR AN HW-8.ANY AVAILABLE?TNX!

FYI
DARYLE BROOKS
WB7TNE

73

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From gdguy21 at YAHOO.COM  Thu Dec  5 14:22:20 2002
From: gdguy21 at YAHOO.COM (H. Sawyer)
Date: Thu Dec 05 12:22:20 2002 MST
Subject: HW-100 with intermittent noise on receive
Message-ID: <mailman.13169.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


This problem has plagued me for many years. The noise sounds like heavy rainfall on a window pane. Somewhat like static crashes. The noise does vary with changing  the volume control of the AF gain.

When it is there, it seems as if rapidly turning the AF gain control clears it temporarily. I have achieved temporary relief by using a spraying a cleaner into the AF pot.

I have replaced V14, no help.

The noise seems to be independent from the RF gain control.

Green team, your help, please.

Thanks, in advance.

Howard

KO6WL



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From tazzie at LOCALNET.COM  Thu Dec  5 15:04:28 2002
From: tazzie at LOCALNET.COM (Joseph W. Lutz)
Date: Thu Dec 05 13:04:28 2002 MST
Subject: FS: MISC HEATHKIT ITEMS *****UPDATE*****
Message-ID: <mailman.13170.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Item [2] has a new owner - thanks for the interest from all.
73,
Joe W7LPF

"Joseph W. Lutz" wrote:
>
> Following items available:
>
> [1] Heathkit HS-24 [Mobile Speaker] - Original Manual.
>     $25.00 shipped/Conus
>
> [2] Heathkit HP-13A [Mobile Power Supply] with connecting power
>     cable.  Have Original HP-13 Manual.
>     $30.00 plus shipping from 15905
>
>  73,
> Joe W7LPF
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From w7prv at TELEPORT.COM  Thu Dec  5 17:29:19 2002
From: w7prv at TELEPORT.COM (FRED HOLNAGEL)
Date: Thu Dec 05 15:29:19 2002 MST
Subject: DX-60B Problem
Message-ID: <mailman.13171.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Here's the dummy of the day award winner. I picked up the DX-60B at a swap meet a year or so ago.Absolutely mint!!!! Today I put it on the bench, variaced it up to voltage. Went into the tune up procedure.....nothing. Pulled all the tubes and checked them..... nada, zip. Removed the bottom cover and behold, found a plastic bag with a new driver coil and switch wafer in it. Guess what????The old coil ass'y. was missing! Duh! Fred W7PRV

P.S. Next time your car won't start...................................

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From murray at MULTI-VOLTI.COM  Thu Dec  5 17:55:59 2002
From: murray at MULTI-VOLTI.COM (Multi-Volti)
Date: Thu Dec 05 15:55:59 2002 MST
Subject: OFF TOPIC PARTS....HW-8?
Message-ID: <mailman.13172.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


I worked with them industrially, and suspect they don't supply small
quantities. Their specialty is custom, but maybe they have 'clone' products.

The stuff we used was a special potting epoxy resistant to gasoline and the
nearly 100 different secret additives used in fuel formulation...the stuff
was about $200/gallon.

Murray

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To: <HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV>
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 2:18 PM
Subject: OFF TOPIC PARTS....HW-8?


> HELLO ALL.JUST A NOTE FORWARDING AN EMAIL ADDRESS THAT MIGHT BE OF USE TO
ALL
> THE GREEN MACHINE OWNERS OUT THERE.HTTP://WWW.MASTERBOND.COM. HAS ALOT OF
> EPOXIES FOR ELECTRONICS.HAVEN'T USED THEIR PRODUCTS AS YET AND DON'T
ENDORSE
> ANY.ALSO NEED A METER FOR AN HW-8.ANY AVAILABLE?TNX!
>
> FYI
> DARYLE BROOKS
> WB7TNE
>
> 73
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From johnph3 at JUNO.COM  Thu Dec  5 18:43:14 2002
From: johnph3 at JUNO.COM (John Phillips)
Date: Thu Dec 05 16:43:14 2002 MST
Subject: Heath parts:
Message-ID: <mailman.13173.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Hello:
Anyone have a AM filter for SB-310 part # 404-314. Also need a crystal
22.895.
and a original or copy of a manual. Buy or trade Have quite a lot of
parts.
Thanks John

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From bernard.murphy at SYMPATICO.CA  Thu Dec  5 19:46:18 2002
From: bernard.murphy at SYMPATICO.CA (Bernie Murphy)
Date: Thu Dec 05 17:46:18 2002 MST
Subject: HW-100 with intermittent noise on receive
Message-ID: <mailman.13174.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Howard:

If you have not already done so, clean the relay contacts.

You can pry the lids off the relays without breaking the plastic covers  (if
you patient and careful).

Cut some heavy white bond paper into thin strips and run these strips back
and forth over the relay contacts.  You should see "gunk" on the paper.
There is a whole  "religious cult" on how to clean relay contacts so I won't
go there.

Next,  tighten down all the hardware holding down the boards.  One
suggestion was to even undo the screws, lift the boards carefully and make
sure that there is a nice clean ground for the boards. Tighten everything
down snug once you are done.  Floating ground points can drive you around
the bend!

Let us know if the above suggestions help solving your problem.

73, Bernie



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From: "H. Sawyer" <gdguy21 at YAHOO.COM>
To: <HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV>
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 2:22 PM
Subject: HW-100 with intermittent noise on receive


> This problem has plagued me for many years. The noise sounds like heavy
rainfall on a window pane. Somewhat like static crashes. The noise does vary
with changing  the volume control of the AF gain.
>
> When it is there, it seems as if rapidly turning the AF gain control
clears it temporarily. I have achieved temporary relief by using a spraying
a cleaner into the AF pot.
>
> I have replaced V14, no help.
>
> The noise seems to be independent from the RF gain control.
>
> Green team, your help, please.
>
> Thanks, in advance.
>
> Howard
>
> KO6WL
>
>
>
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From Greg at BOWSER.COM  Thu Dec  5 20:27:01 2002
From: Greg at BOWSER.COM (Greg@Bowser.com)
Date: Thu Dec 05 18:27:01 2002 MST
Subject: HW-8 Meter
Message-ID: <mailman.13175.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


I just read a message that someone was looking for an replacement meter for
the HW-8 but in going through my old messages, I must have erased
it.  Anyway, just was wondering if the meter in the HD-1426 Field Strength
Meter would be the same?  Perhaps, someone could verify the Heath part
number for this meter with that used in the HW-8?  And if I remember right,
didn't the HW-202 and 2036 have the same meter?

I would think that a HD-1426 could be had for around 10 bucks or an junk
HW-202 for about 20.

Greg W8NGA

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From eric_pierce at SYMPATICO.CA  Thu Dec  5 20:37:01 2002
From: eric_pierce at SYMPATICO.CA (Eric Pierce)
Date: Thu Dec 05 18:37:01 2002 MST
Subject: IG-18 Signal Generator - need identity of Q5, 417-201 / D1 & D2,
              57-65
In-Reply-To: <004801c29cb1$7aa87500$3c04a3d0@4373gtj2>
Message-ID: <mailman.13176.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


I am restoring an IG-18 Signal Generator, and need regular transistor
equivalent number of Q5, (heath part 417-201) and the diode equivalent
of D1 & D2 (heath part 57-65)

I found a heathkit parts list at

        http://members.tripod.com/~NRWILLIAMSON/index-2.html

but it only does not go high enough for either (must be old)

In fact, if anyone has the manual for the IG-18, I would be very
interested in paying for copy/mail of the calibration, parts list and
schematic (all I have is a rather fuzzy schematic from the net).



Thanks

Eric VA3EP
www.thirdpla.net

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From wb8jkr at JUNO.COM  Thu Dec  5 21:29:52 2002
From: wb8jkr at JUNO.COM (Mark Graalman WB8JKR)
Date: Thu Dec 05 19:29:52 2002 MST
Subject: IG-18 Signal Generator - need identity of Q5,
              417-201 / D1 & D2, 57-65
Message-ID: <mailman.13177.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


   Hi Eric,

  The 417-201 is a 2N3906  and 57-65 in my IG-18 manual
are listed as 57-29 and they are 100 piv 100 ma diodes my guess
is that 1N914's would probably work.

73,  Mark  WB8JKR

On Thu, 5 Dec 2002 20:37:01 -0500 Eric Pierce <eric_pierce at SYMPATICO.CA>
writes:
> I am restoring an IG-18 Signal Generator, and need regular
> transistor
> equivalent number of Q5, (heath part 417-201) and the diode
> equivalent
> of D1 & D2 (heath part 57-65)
>
> I found a heathkit parts list at
>
>         http://members.tripod.com/~NRWILLIAMSON/index-2.html
>
> but it only does not go high enough for either (must be old)
>
> In fact, if anyone has the manual for the IG-18, I would be very
> interested in paying for copy/mail of the calibration, parts list
> and
> schematic (all I have is a rather fuzzy schematic from the net).
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Eric VA3EP
> www.thirdpla.net
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From jfarr at LIVINGSTON.NET  Thu Dec  5 22:38:54 2002
From: jfarr at LIVINGSTON.NET (John Farrington)
Date: Thu Dec 05 20:38:54 2002 MST
Subject: HW-8 Meter
Message-ID: <mailman.13178.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


At 08:27 PM 12/05/2002 W8NGA wrote on the Heath list:

>I just read a message that someone was looking for an replacement meter for
>the HW-8 but in going through my old messages, I must have erased
>it.  Anyway, just was wondering if the meter in the HD-1426 Field Strength
>Meter would be the same?  Perhaps, someone could verify the Heath part
>number for this meter with that used in the HW-8?  And if I remember right,
>didn't the HW-202 and 2036 have the same meter?



They're the same in the field strength meter and the HW-8, part #407-167.

The manual says it's 150 uA full scale, and it cost $9.40 on the original
Heath replacement parts list.

73

John   KE5ZB

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From eric_pierce at SYMPATICO.CA  Fri Dec  6 07:21:26 2002
From: eric_pierce at SYMPATICO.CA (Eric Pierce)
Date: Fri Dec 06 05:21:26 2002 MST
Subject: IG-18 Signal Generator - need identity of Q5,
              417-201 / D1  & D2, 57-65
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021205211305.00a33d90@pop.mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.13179.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Thanks to all that replied. I will share this info to the list, as there
are sources here I was not aware of (and the www.google.com ) did not
find:


The 417-201 is shown as a 2N2906 at:
        http://www.d8apro.com/heath3.htm
The 57-65 is shown as a 1N4002 at:
        http://home.adelphia.net/~mfergy/SemiRef.htm
There is a partial manual on BAMA at:
        http://bama.sbc.edu/
There is a schematic at:
        http://www.circuitarchive.co.uk/heath.htm



Eric VA3EP

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From BobbyTrip at AOL.COM  Fri Dec  6 13:39:28 2002
From: BobbyTrip at AOL.COM (Bob, WB2UJD)
Date: Fri Dec 06 11:39:28 2002 MST
Subject: HW-100 with intermittent noise on receive
Message-ID: <mailman.13180.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


This may or may not be your issue, but I had a similar issue with a HW-101.
The problem was motorboating which got worse as the unti warmed up and
eventually obscured RX audio.  The problem was one of the vertically mounted
electrolytic capacitors.  C304 on the HW-101, which sits nearby V14.  Being
located near V14 is what makes it go bad, due to heat from V14.  The other
one of these caps is still good today in my unit.  Check this out for a
possible cause.

Bob, WB2UJD

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From k4oah at MINDSPRING.COM  Fri Dec  6 14:44:49 2002
From: k4oah at MINDSPRING.COM (Garey Barrell)
Date: Fri Dec 06 12:44:49 2002 MST
Subject: IG-18 Signal Generator - need identity of Q5,
              417-201 / D1 & D2, 57-65
In-Reply-To: <000001c29d21$ffa748b0$c400a8c0@w2kserver>
Message-ID: <mailman.13181.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Eric -

I thought I had posted those to the list, but guess not.

Anyway, the 417-201 is a 2N(3)906, a generic PNP transistor.

Sorry for the error.

73, Garey - K4OAH
Atlanta

At 07:21 AM 12/6/2002, Eric Pierce wrote:
>Thanks to all that replied. I will share this info to the list, as there
>are sources here I was not aware of (and the www.google.com ) did not
>find:
>
>
>The 417-201 is shown as a 2N2906 at:
>         http://www.d8apro.com/heath3.htm
>The 57-65 is shown as a 1N4002 at:
>         http://home.adelphia.net/~mfergy/SemiRef.htm
>There is a partial manual on BAMA at:
>         http://bama.sbc.edu/
>There is a schematic at:
>         http://www.circuitarchive.co.uk/heath.htm
>
>
>
>Eric VA3EP
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From mayormike at CI.QUARTZSITE.AZ.US  Fri Dec  6 13:11:58 2002
From: mayormike at CI.QUARTZSITE.AZ.US (Mayor Verlyn Michel)
Date: Fri Dec 06 11:11:58 2002 MST
Subject: Off subject
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Does anyone have copy of the manuel for the Kenwood TS520se or information on tuning up the transmitter. Please help if possible. mayormike @ci.quartzsite.az.us

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From kd2e at COMCAST.NET  Fri Dec  6 17:14:11 2002
From: kd2e at COMCAST.NET (Dave Edwards)
Date: Fri Dec 06 15:14:11 2002 MST
Subject: Off subject
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The transmitter??? Tune for max output..thats' all
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Does anyone have copy of the manuel for the Kenwood TS520se or information
on tuning up the transmitter. Please help if possible. mayormike
@ci.quartzsite.az.us

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From rayfri at NETWORLD.COM  Fri Dec  6 19:21:28 2002
From: rayfri at NETWORLD.COM (rayfri)
Date: Fri Dec 06 17:21:28 2002 MST
Subject: Off subject
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i can scan the tuning instructions and send them if you want.  I have a 520....
wa7itz


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From nb9m at RELIABLE-NET.NET  Fri Dec  6 19:59:11 2002
From: nb9m at RELIABLE-NET.NET (Bradley Stone)
Date: Fri Dec 06 17:59:11 2002 MST
Subject: Electric Radio Forum Up
Message-ID: <mailman.13185.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Heathkit Folks:

The Electric Radio Forum is up.  There are topics for vintage AM, SSB,
receivers, transmitters and transceivers.  You can also upload pictures of
your shack for us all to enjoy.  The URL is: www.ermag.com/forum/index.cfm

Have Fun!
-Brad, NB9M

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deserve neither liberty nor safety."
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From apo at KOTINET.COM  Sat Dec  7 06:00:25 2002
From: apo at KOTINET.COM (oh8jep)
Date: Sat Dec 07 04:00:25 2002 MST
Subject: Off subject
Message-ID: <mailman.13186.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Hello!

Here can be find a lotts of schematics and manuals for many equipments,also for TS520.

http://garaje.ya.com/webea8zq/tecnica/tecnica.htm

This site is homepage of EA8ZQ so it is in spanish but translated to english con be find here: 

http://216.239.35.120/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&langpair=es%7Cen&u=http://garaje.ya.com/webea8zq/tecnica/tecnica.htm&prev=/language_tools

I hope that helps!

73 de Aatos OH8JEP

http://www.qsl.net/oh8jep



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Does anyone have copy of the manuel for the Kenwood TS520se or information on tuning up the transmitter. Please help if possible. mayormike @ci.quartzsite.az.us

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From apo at KOTINET.COM  Sat Dec  7 06:47:52 2002
From: apo at KOTINET.COM (oh8jep)
Date: Sat Dec 07 04:47:52 2002 MST
Subject: Some info general
Message-ID: <mailman.13187.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Hello again!

This site is useful I think for everyone,who is searching some kind on shematic for HAM equipment.
Download via this Slovakian site is coming from:  ftp://ftp.qrz.ru/pub/hamradio/
where can be find a lots of useful informations for many brands of equipments.

http://elektronika.host.sk/schemy/HAM.htm

Best 73 de Aatos OH8JEP

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From murray at MULTI-VOLTI.COM  Fri Dec  6 20:14:43 2002
From: murray at MULTI-VOLTI.COM (Multi-Volti)
Date: Fri Dec 06 18:14:43 2002 MST
Subject: IG-18 Signal Generator - need identity of Q5,
              417-201 / D1  & D2, 57-65
Message-ID: <mailman.13188.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


I thought 417-201 had a weird part number, like the complement 417-801. Both
were supposed to be industry standard common types of transistors but I
don't have a clue where Heath came up with them, and I sure can't remember
the number for the '801 it was so weird.

Murray

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Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 7:21 AM
Subject: Re: IG-18 Signal Generator - need identity of Q5, 417-201 / D1 &
D2, 57-65


> Thanks to all that replied. I will share this info to the list, as there
> are sources here I was not aware of (and the www.google.com ) did not
> find:
>
>
> The 417-201 is shown as a 2N2906 at:
>         http://www.d8apro.com/heath3.htm
> The 57-65 is shown as a 1N4002 at:
>         http://home.adelphia.net/~mfergy/SemiRef.htm
> There is a partial manual on BAMA at:
>         http://bama.sbc.edu/
> There is a schematic at:
>         http://www.circuitarchive.co.uk/heath.htm
>
>
>
> Eric VA3EP
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From murray at MULTI-VOLTI.COM  Fri Dec  6 21:01:54 2002
From: murray at MULTI-VOLTI.COM (Multi-Volti)
Date: Fri Dec 06 19:01:54 2002 MST
Subject: Off subject
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> The transmitter??? Tune for max output..thats' all


Nah - that only works if you have a fluorescent lamp to stick in the final
cage as an output indicator. (W3GM trick)

Assuming you mean operating tune-up, not alignment, similar to HW-101,
SB-102, etc, usually you give a wee bit of drive (watch grid current...might
be 2.5 mA max per tube?), then watch the plate current, and 'dip' the plate
current, that is, tune the variable plate cap to where the plate current
reaches a minimum, helps to watch output power also, which should peak very
close to or exactly (many variables) where the current drops a bit (dips).

grid current will peak when plate current dips.

This may not be enough ...when you find some manual reading material,
hoepfully it will make the manual make sense.

"Tune" switch on that rig might possibly be reduced power so you don't
stress everything.

Oh, yeah, you're supposed to do this on a dummy load, not 75m SSB.



Murray


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From kd2e at COMCAST.NET  Fri Dec  6 21:10:59 2002
From: kd2e at COMCAST.NET (Dave Edwards)
Date: Fri Dec 06 19:10:59 2002 MST
Subject: Off subject
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Also same as near everything before 1975 or so...just tune for maximum
output.
Of course, common sense would dictate that something is wrong if maximum
output occurs with the plate knob pointing far from the correct band.
...Dave

Multi-Volti wrote:

>
>
>>The transmitter??? Tune for max output..thats' all
>>
>>
>
>
>Nah - that only works if you have a fluorescent lamp to stick in the final
>cage as an output indicator. (W3GM trick)
>
>Assuming you mean operating tune-up, not alignment, similar to HW-101,
>SB-102, etc, usually you give a wee bit of drive (watch grid current...might
>be 2.5 mA max per tube?), then watch the plate current, and 'dip' the plate
>current, that is, tune the variable plate cap to where the plate current
>reaches a minimum, helps to watch output power also, which should peak very
>close to or exactly (many variables) where the current drops a bit (dips).
>
>grid current will peak when plate current dips.
>
>This may not be enough ...when you find some manual reading material,
>hoepfully it will make the manual make sense.
>
>"Tune" switch on that rig might possibly be reduced power so you don't
>stress everything.
>
>Oh, yeah, you're supposed to do this on a dummy load, not 75m SSB.
>
>
>
>Murray
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From gzook at YAHOO.COM  Sat Dec  7 11:39:04 2002
From: gzook at YAHOO.COM (Glen Zook)
Date: Sat Dec 07 09:39:04 2002 MST
Subject: Off subject
In-Reply-To: <3DF158B3.200@comcast.net>
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If you want to fry your final tubes, tune this way!

The proper method for tuning tube type equipment is
the old advance the antenna loading and then "dipping"
the plate current using the plate tuning capacitor.
You do this until the input to the final amplifier is
a whatever power level that is recommended by the
manufacturer, or, less if you want to run less power.

The grid current for a pair of 6146 tubes is a maximum
of 6 mA (3 mA per tube), but they will last much
longer if you don't run more than 5 mA (2.5 mA per
tube).

It is possible to overload the final tubes and get
more power output than what they are rated for.  Also,
if the neutralization is not "right on", maximum
output and minimum plate current will not be at the
same point, resulting in more power being dissipated
by the plates of the tubes, which can result in things
from shortened tube life to immediate destruction!

A pair of 6146/6146A/8298 tubes has a maximum input on
CW of 180 watts, on SSB 170 watts per RCA
specifications.  On AM phone 135 watts input is the
maximum.  The 6146B/8298A have approximately 33
percent more power input.  However, in most equipment
designed for the 6146/6146A/8298 substitution of the
6146B/8298A results in problems.  You can see the
article in Electric Radio a couple of years ago or
else go to http://home.attbi.com/~k9sth or
http://home.attbi.com/~zcomco to read this article for
free.

The same thing with other final amplifier tubes.  Each
has a maximum power input rating and a maximum plate
dissipation rating.  For best tube life, you do not
want to exceed between 80 and 90 percent of this.  You
can go to 100 percent, even more, and many amateurs
who use the old "boat anchor" equipment like the
Apache, DX-100, etc., think that running 180 watts
input on AM phone is great.  However, the difference
in power output and the signal quality received on the
other end is, for all practical purposes, nil between
180 watts input and 130 watts input (which puts the
6146 tubes back in the proper operating parameters for
AM operation).  The life of the tubes will be between
5 and 10 times as long with the lower power.

What you have to do is to multiply the plate current
on the meter by the plate voltage.  However, most, but
not all, of the commercial boat anchor transmitters do
NOT actually read plate current, but read cathode
current.  This includes the screen current which must
be subtracted from the cathode current to get the
plate current.  In the case of a pair of 6146 tubes
this is normally between 20 and 25 mA.  You need to
look at the schematic of your transmitter to see if it
reads plate or cathode current.

For example, if a DX-100 transmitter running a pair of
6146 tubes is properly "dipped" at 225 mA and the
plate voltage is 750 volts, then you subtract 25 mA
from the reading.  This gives a "true" plate current
of 200 mA.  Multiplying this by 750 volts (0.2 X 750)
give a power input (not output!) of 150 watts.
considering the normal efficiency of a pair of 6146
tubes, this will result in a power output of about 85
to 90 watts on 80 meters and drop to about 70 to 75
watts on 10 meters.  Sometimes, with a good pair of
new tubes, you will get 5 to 10 watts more power.
But, remember that the guy on the other end won't be
able to discern if you are running 85 watts out or 95
watts out.

Yes, you can load the transmitter to get 110 watts out
on 80 meters.  But, if you look at the plate input
power you will definitely be beyond the recommended
power input for the tube.  It will work, for a while!
Then, depending on the individual tube(s), they will
go "soft" in from a matter of minutes to weeks.  It
just depends.

There are a few transmitters (the Hallicrafters HT-37
comes to mind) that you do tune for maximum output
(there is no provision on the meter to read plate
current).  However, the voltages in the rig are lower
than many other rigs and thus you can't exceed the
maximum power input for the tubes.  But, these rigs
are a very small percentage of the boat anchors out
there.  If there is a plate meter, you "dip" the final
to tune it properly.  If maximum power does not occur
with minimum plate current, then the finals need to be
neutralized.  However, you still tune for minimum
plate current if you don't want to "fry" your tubes.

Glen, K9STH

--- Dave Edwards <kd2e at COMCAST.NET> wrote:

Also same as near everything before 1975 or so...just
tune for maximum output.


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From w7prv at TELEPORT.COM  Sat Dec  7 12:35:39 2002
From: w7prv at TELEPORT.COM (FRED HOLNAGEL)
Date: Sat Dec 07 10:35:39 2002 MST
Subject: DX-60 part wanted
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Well, it seems the "new" part I had was in fact the old damaged part. I need the driver coil and switch or just the single wafer switch that is part of the assembly. The part is the same for both 60 and 60B. Thanks for any help! Fred W7PRV

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From gzook at YAHOO.COM  Sat Dec  7 13:47:21 2002
From: gzook at YAHOO.COM (Glen Zook)
Date: Sat Dec 07 11:47:21 2002 MST
Subject: Off subject
In-Reply-To: <001501c29e1c$671816a0$0601a8c0@home>
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However, the comment that I replied to was that you
tune ALL of the pre-1975 equipment, not just the
TS-520, for maximum output which is definitely wrong!
I did point out that the manuals for some equipment do
tell you to tune for "maximum smoke", although those
transmitters are in a very definite minority.

It has been a while since I have had my hands on a
TS-520 and the manual (I did own a TS-520 for a short
time that I traded off since I am not a big fan of
transceivers, prefer the separate transmitter /
receiver combination that allows you to transceive if
you need to), so I can't say what the "proper" manual
tuning procedure for the TS-520 is.  But, to say that
you tune all of the boat anchor transmitters for
maximum power output will get you into trouble in a
hurry!

It is possible to over load the finals of almost any
tube-type transmitter that is tuned for "maximum
smoke" and not for power input within the
specifications of the tubes.

For me, I definitely tune for input power since I
don't like having to "fork over" for replacement
amplifier tubes on a regular basis.  Other people do
like to go for the maximum power output no matter what
the effects on their final amplifier tubes.

As such, I stand on my previous comments about the
proper way to tune tube type transmitters.

Glen, K9STH


--- Dave Edwards <kd2e at comcast.net> wrote:

The original post asked about tuning his TS520.

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From kd2e at COMCAST.NET  Sat Dec  7 13:13:54 2002
From: kd2e at COMCAST.NET (Dave Edwards)
Date: Sat Dec 07 11:13:54 2002 MST
Subject: Off subject
Message-ID: <mailman.13194.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Edwards" <kd2e at comcast.net>
To: "Glen Zook" <gzook at yahoo.com>; <HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV>
Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: Off subject


> Nope, not quite.
> The original post asked about tuning his TS520.
> True, an old DX100 or even Ranger will allow you to overdrive the finals,
or
> even tune for maximum spur.
> But, per the TS820 manual (same as 520)...
> "Turn the MODE swith to CW, turn the METER switch to RF, and set the
> stand-by switch to the SEND position. Quickly adjust the PLATE control and
> then the LOAD control alternately to peak (maximum meter deflection) the
> power output."
> So, as I said... peak for maximum output.
> ...Dave

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From kd2e at COMCAST.NET  Sat Dec  7 13:53:27 2002
From: kd2e at COMCAST.NET (Dave Edwards)
Date: Sat Dec 07 11:53:27 2002 MST
Subject: Off subject
Message-ID: <mailman.13195.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


To the original poster on how to tune your TS520....
Go by the book, and tune for maximum output.
...Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glen Zook" <gzook at yahoo.com>
To: "Dave Edwards" <kd2e at comcast.net>; <HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV>
Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: Off subject


> However, the comment that I replied to was that you
> tune ALL of the pre-1975 equipment, not just the
> TS-520, for maximum output which is definitely wrong!
> I did point out that the manuals for some equipment do
> tell you to tune for "maximum smoke", although those
> transmitters are in a very definite minority.
>
> It has been a while since I have had my hands on a
> TS-520 and the manual (I did own a TS-520 for a short
> time that I traded off since I am not a big fan of
> transceivers, prefer the separate transmitter /
> receiver combination that allows you to transceive if
> you need to), so I can't say what the "proper" manual
> tuning procedure for the TS-520 is.  But, to say that
> you tune all of the boat anchor transmitters for
> maximum power output will get you into trouble in a
> hurry!
>
> It is possible to over load the finals of almost any
> tube-type transmitter that is tuned for "maximum
> smoke" and not for power input within the
> specifications of the tubes.
>
> For me, I definitely tune for input power since I
> don't like having to "fork over" for replacement
> amplifier tubes on a regular basis.  Other people do
> like to go for the maximum power output no matter what
> the effects on their final amplifier tubes.
>
> As such, I stand on my previous comments about the
> proper way to tune tube type transmitters.
>
> Glen, K9STH
>
>
> --- Dave Edwards <kd2e at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> The original post asked about tuning his TS520.
>
> =====
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>
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>
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From radiorepair at MINDSPRING.COM  Sat Dec  7 17:27:23 2002
From: radiorepair at MINDSPRING.COM (Malcolm Leonard)
Date: Sat Dec 07 15:27:23 2002 MST
Subject: Need 100 KHZ crystal for HD20
Message-ID: <mailman.13196.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


A member of this list kindly sent me a crystal for the HD 20,but it arrived  via USPS in a completely destroyed,flat as a pancake condition.
So,my search is on again.Anybody got one for the HD 20 that they can bear to part with?
Thanks,
Malcolm Leonard

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From hk165 at YAHOO.COM  Sat Dec  7 15:45:54 2002
From: hk165 at YAHOO.COM (BILL CALL)
Date: Sat Dec 07 13:45:54 2002 MST
Subject: Off Topic
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Does anyone have a need for an New 500 watt Variac.  Its on Ebay.  Item # 1943046944.  Here is a link.   http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1943046944

Good luck,  Bill kf6wxj



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From k4oah at MINDSPRING.COM  Sat Dec  7 16:16:46 2002
From: k4oah at MINDSPRING.COM (Garey Barrell)
Date: Sat Dec 07 14:16:46 2002 MST
Subject: Off subject
In-Reply-To: <20021207184721.2620.qmail@web40208.mail.yahoo.com>
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No-one has mentioned the downside of "lightly loaded" pentode or beam power
stages.

The screen current will increase, even to destruction.

Drake also says to "tune for maximum output", and running at reduced
loading will melt screens in 6JB6's.

The correct way to reduce the power output to increase tube life is to tune
for maximum (or tube specifications if less) and then reduce drive to lower
the output.

73, Garey - K4OAH
Atlanta

At 01:47 PM 12/7/2002, Glen Zook wrote:
>However, the comment that I replied to was that you
>tune ALL of the pre-1975 equipment, not just the
>TS-520, for maximum output which is definitely wrong!
>I did point out that the manuals for some equipment do
>tell you to tune for "maximum smoke", although those
>transmitters are in a very definite minority.

snip >>><<<

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From rjett1 at EARTHLINK.NET  Sat Dec  7 15:21:28 2002
From: rjett1 at EARTHLINK.NET (Robert H. Jett)
Date: Sat Dec 07 13:21:28 2002 MST
Subject: HW-101
Message-ID: <mailman.13199.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Hello All,
I have just purchased an HW-101 transceiver and I need to find a manual
and a schematic for it, copied off bama site but still need a complete manual
or a copy of one.
If one or a copy of one is for sale please email me direct and quote me the
price. Thanks in advance.
73's 
Robert H. Jett
K?YBN
k0ybn at earthlink.net
2:20 PM
Saturday, December 07, 2002

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From KenMar at DOT1WEB.COM  Sat Dec  7 16:45:16 2002
From: KenMar at DOT1WEB.COM (Ken Simpson, W8EK)
Date: Sat Dec 07 14:45:16 2002 MST
Subject: Heath HD-15 phone patch in original box, plus Heath Manuals FS
Message-ID: <mailman.13200.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


For Sale:

Heath HD-15 phone patch, with original box.
This is the unit with the VU meter on the left and 3 knobs
that match the SB series to the middle and right.  Low or
high Z output to the transmitter.  In its original box, in
good shape.  Includes paper work for $ 40.


ORIGINAL Heath manuals.  These are the manuals
only.  They are all originals, and not copies.

HM-102 RF Power meter (HF wattmeter) - 1970 -
Check marks in about half of the book. Schematic
is part of book.  $ 13

HM-2102 VHF Wattmeter - 1972
A few check marks, but book looks almost new.
Schematic in book.  $ 15

SA-1480 - coax switch - 1979
Pictorials only   $ 3

HW-12 A, 75 m SSB transceiver - 1966
Some check marks, schematic part of
manual.  $ 15

These are original manuals only.

Prices do not include shipping from Florida.

Thanks.

73,

Ken, W8EK

Ken Simpson
E-mail to W8EK at fdt.net or W8EK at arrl.net
Voice Phone  (352) 732-8400

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From w0qni at JUNO.COM  Sat Dec  7 22:24:23 2002
From: w0qni at JUNO.COM (The Heathkit Junkie)
Date: Sat Dec 07 20:24:23 2002 MST
Subject: SB-1000
Message-ID: <mailman.13201.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Happy Heath Holidays to all:

A fellow ham WB7OYL, Eric has a problem. He has a basket case SB-1000. He
is looking for the band switch or waffers for the switch. Can anyone
help??

His e-mail is ebourlet at gte.net.

Thanks, and a great holiday to all.
    (o)  (o)
00ooo---ooo00
      ~~~~~~
73 - BILL - W?QNI
"THE HEATHKIT JUNKIE"

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From gzook at YAHOO.COM  Sun Dec  8 01:19:04 2002
From: gzook at YAHOO.COM (Glen Zook)
Date: Sat Dec 07 23:19:04 2002 MST
Subject: HG-10 VFO dial drums
Message-ID: <mailman.13202.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


I have had several requests for the Heath HG-10 VFO
dials in addition to the ones for the Apache and
Mohawk which I already have available and for the
Cheyenne and Comanche which are now in process.

Therefore, if someone has a relatively complete (but
cracked, etc.) dial drum for the HG-10 series who
would be willing to send it to me for the purposes of
preparing the artwork, I will return the dial drum
along with a new drum for the privilege of using
yours for the model.

It may take a couple of weeks, or so, before I can get
the artwork done.  However, since I have been able to
do the other dials, I don't see any problems with the
HG-10.

Also, if there are any other similar dials that people
need, and if I can reproduce the artwork, let me know
and I'll see if I can do the work.  However, I
definitely will need an original dial to work from.

Glen, K9STH

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From bcarling at CFL.RR.COM  Sun Dec  8 05:39:33 2002
From: bcarling at CFL.RR.COM (Brian Carling)
Date: Sun Dec 08 03:39:33 2002 MST
Subject: New RF Mica Capacitors 2500 volts
Message-ID: <mailman.13203.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


New Sangamo postage stamp style mica capacitors.
Brown with round solder terminals.
Two types available:

0.001 uF = 1000 pF at 2500 Volts DC.

0.00033 uF = 330 pF at 2500 Volts DC.
Excellent.

$2.50 each or 10 for $20.00 plus postage.
E-mail me to arrange purchase

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From w7prv at TELEPORT.COM  Sun Dec  8 10:46:39 2002
From: w7prv at TELEPORT.COM (FRED HOLNAGEL)
Date: Sun Dec 08 08:46:39 2002 MST
Subject: HG-10 VFO
Message-ID: <mailman.13204.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


HG-10 VFO for sale ebay item 1942943217

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From neilsmorr at HOTMAIL.COM  Sun Dec  8 12:15:43 2002
From: neilsmorr at HOTMAIL.COM (Neil Morrison)
Date: Sun Dec 08 10:15:43 2002 MST
Subject: [heathkit] Heathkit lists {01}
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heath at listserv.tempe.gov
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: wayne 
  To: heathkit List Member 
  Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 5:39 AM
  Subject: [heathkit] Heathkit lists {01}


  Hello,

  Does anyone know of any active Heathkit users lists?

  Wayne, NM3B

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From gdguy21 at YAHOO.COM  Sun Dec  8 12:47:53 2002
From: gdguy21 at YAHOO.COM (H. Sawyer)
Date: Sun Dec 08 10:47:53 2002 MST
Subject: HW-100 with intermittent noise on receive
Message-ID: <mailman.13206.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Thanks to everyone for their thoughtful replies. I
replaced the AF gain pot and all is quiet.

Seasons greetings to all.

Howard

KO6WL

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From bugmarx at EV1.NET  Sun Dec  8 12:52:28 2002
From: bugmarx at EV1.NET (Carl C. Miller)
Date: Sun Dec 08 10:52:28 2002 MST
Subject: Reciever Alignment
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Hello All,

I've noticed on some older receivers after alignment that the ends of the bands will be dead on, such as the BC band 550 and 1650 will be correct, but when tuning to the middle of the bands, the frequencies will be off maybe a few kcs high or low. What causes this and what could one do to correct it?

Thanks,
Carl KA5KAB

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From bugmarx at EV1.NET  Sun Dec  8 13:21:45 2002
From: bugmarx at EV1.NET (Carl C. Miller)
Date: Sun Dec 08 11:21:45 2002 MST
Subject: HW- 101 VFO Problem Resolved
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Hello All,

Back some time ago I posted on the list concerning a problem with the VFO in my HW- 101. The problem was sudden frequency jumps after warm up. I finally got around to pulling the VFO and began trying to find the problem. After reading over the Heath service bulletins I found that on some units the VFO trimmers located on the side of the variable capacitor were being unscrewed in the normal alignment process to the point that insufficient pressure was being exerted on the plates of the trimmer so that they would shift easily and cause frequency hopping. Sure enough, the trimmers on mine were unscrewed quite a bit, and all I had to do was barely touch them and the VFO would jump frequencies. The fix was removing C-947 and replacing it with a 47pf NPO cap. The original was a 56pf NPO. After substituting the cap and re-alignment of the VFO the trimmers screws keep better pressure on the trimmer plates and don't allow them to shift so easily. So far this has cleared up the problem. Thanks to everyone who offered their advice.

73's,
Carl KA5KAB 

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From rayfri at NETWORLD.COM  Sun Dec  8 13:31:35 2002
From: rayfri at NETWORLD.COM (rayfri)
Date: Sun Dec 08 11:31:35 2002 MST
Subject: Off subject
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Repeat:    If the person looking for tuning instructions for the ts 520 is still
looking,
let me know... I run a ts 520.  I have the manual... and it's a great rig.
wa7itz


Multi-Volti wrote:

> > The transmitter??? Tune for max output..thats' all
>
> Nah - that only works if you have a fluorescent lamp to stick in the final
> cage as an output indicator. (W3GM trick)
>
> Assuming you mean operating tune-up, not alignment, similar to HW-101,
> SB-102, etc, usually you give a wee bit of drive (watch grid current...might
> be 2.5 mA max per tube?), then watch the plate current, and 'dip' the plate
> current, that is, tune the variable plate cap to where the plate current
> reaches a minimum, helps to watch output power also, which should peak very
> close to or exactly (many variables) where the current drops a bit (dips).
>
> grid current will peak when plate current dips.
>
> This may not be enough ...when you find some manual reading material,
> hoepfully it will make the manual make sense.
>
> "Tune" switch on that rig might possibly be reduced power so you don't
> stress everything.
>
> Oh, yeah, you're supposed to do this on a dummy load, not 75m SSB.
>
> Murray
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From ggammon at BCGROUP.NET  Sat Dec  7 21:58:32 2002
From: ggammon at BCGROUP.NET (Gareth Gammon)
Date: Sat Dec 07 19:58:32 2002 MST
Subject: Off topic tuning TS-520
Message-ID: <mailman.13210.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


I bought my 520 in '75 and it is still my main rig. What follows is the by the book method. Don't forget the dummy load

1. Set  band switch to desired band
2. Set mode switch to tune
3. Set meter switch to ALC
4. Set Plate control to somewhere close to band switch setting
5. Move the Send /Rec switch to Send and adjust Drive control for max meter reading.
6. Set meter switch to IP
7. Again move Send/rec to Send and adjust Plate control for max DIP in plate current.
8. Set Mode switch to CW and Meter switch to RF.
9. If you have key plugged in be sure the VOX/MAN switch is in the VOX position. 
10. Either use whatever provisions your key or keyer has for tuning or move the SEND/REC switch to SEND and alternately adjust the LOAD and PLATE control for max output on the meter.  Note that the SEND/REC switch will not work if you have a key plugged in and the mode switch is set for CW. 
11. Move the meter switch back to IP, key the xmtr and check that the plate current is 200ma.

This is Kenwood's method and it has  worked well for me. I have never replaced the finals and I still qet 100 or so watts out.

73
This 

Gareth Gammon
Fort St. James, B.C.
VE7CGG

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From k4oah at MINDSPRING.COM  Sat Dec  7 22:02:06 2002
From: k4oah at MINDSPRING.COM (Garey Barrell)
Date: Sat Dec 07 20:02:06 2002 MST
Subject: Off subject
In-Reply-To: <MBBBLKACBGIACCBPPAGCMEAHCBAA.w1id@fcgnetworks.net>
Message-ID: <mailman.13211.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


I guess we're into a matter of semantics now...

I don't see the difference between -

"Adjust PLATE for plate current dip and adjust LOAD for maximum power
out.  Do this alternately until there is no further increase in power output."

- AND -

"tune for maximum output" assuming RF TUNE, PLATE and TUNE are the
operative controls, and the final is properly neutralized.

Actually, Drake later issued a change saying to keep final plate current to
a maximum of 340 mA, presumably to comply with FCC regulations regarding
purity of emissions.

Certainly a small fan to exhaust the hot air away from the final
compartment will go a long way to increase the life of final tubes, regardless.

None of which has anything to do with my original statement that running a
final at reduced plate loading results in increased screen current which
applies to both 6JB6's and 6146's!

73, Garey - K4OAH
Atlanta

At 06:12 PM 12/7/2002, Gerald C. Lemay wrote:
>I'm looking at the T-4XC manual. On page 3-1 and continuing on page 3-5 the
>proper tuning procedure is described. Adjust PLATE for plate current dip and
>adjust LOAD for maximum power out. Do this alternately until there is no
>further increase in power output. It doesn't simply state to adjust both
>PLATE and LOAD for maximum power out. Doing so will exceed the plate power
>dissipation of the 6JB6A's. Sure it's possible to much more than 120 watts
>out but your finals won't last too long at that rate. The plate dissipation
>rating of those tubes is only 17.5 watts. I don't know about 6146's but I
>suspect they could probably take much more of a beating because they're
>transmitting tubes.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Heathkit Owners and Collectors List
>[mailto:HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV]On Behalf Of Garey Barrell
>Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 4:17 PM
>To: HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV
>Subject: Re: Off subject
>
>
>No-one has mentioned the downside of "lightly loaded" pentode or beam power
>stages.
>
>The screen current will increase, even to destruction.
>
>Drake also says to "tune for maximum output", and running at reduced
>loading will melt screens in 6JB6's.
>
>The correct way to reduce the power output to increase tube life is to tune
>for maximum (or tube specifications if less) and then reduce drive to lower
>the output.
>
>73, Garey - K4OAH
>Atlanta
>
>At 01:47 PM 12/7/2002, Glen Zook wrote:
> >However, the comment that I replied to was that you
> >tune ALL of the pre-1975 equipment, not just the
> >TS-520, for maximum output which is definitely wrong!
> >I did point out that the manuals for some equipment do
> >tell you to tune for "maximum smoke", although those
> >transmitters are in a very definite minority.
>
>snip >>><<<

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From pmarkavage at JUNO.COM  Sat Dec  7 22:44:16 2002
From: pmarkavage at JUNO.COM (Peter A Markavage)
Date: Sat Dec 07 20:44:16 2002 MST
Subject: tuning a final, dip and load
Message-ID: <mailman.13212.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Unfortunately Dave you failed to mention the some the previous paragraphs
in the manual:

Meter switch to ALC, mode switch to tune, stand-by switch to send, and
peak the ALC reading with the drive control; then turn the meter switch
to IP, leave the mode switch in tune, stand-by switch to send, and
quickly adjust the plate control to dip the plate current (this
adjustment allows for getting the plate tank circuit at resonance without
putting the tubes at risk); then put mode switch to CW (CW position,
final tubes will draw full plate current; Kenwood quote: "Do not transmit
with the tubes out of resonance for more than 10 seconds"), meter switch
to RF, stand-by switch to send, and quickly adjust plate and load....etc.

Tuning these rigs for maximum output, without first bringing the final
tank circuit to resonance, can lead you to premature final tube or
component failure.
Dip and load is always a safe way to tune a transmitter final.

Pete, WA2CWA

On Sat, 7 Dec 2002 13:13:54 -0500 Dave Edwards <kd2e at COMCAST.NET> writes:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Edwards" <kd2e at comcast.net>
> To: "Glen Zook" <gzook at yahoo.com>; <HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV>
> Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 12:17 PM
> Subject: Re: Off subject
>
>
> > Nope, not quite.
> > The original post asked about tuning his TS520.
> > True, an old DX100 or even Ranger will allow you to overdrive the
> finals,
> or
> > even tune for maximum spur.
> > But, per the TS820 manual (same as 520)...
> > "Turn the MODE swith to CW, turn the METER switch to RF, and set
> the
> > stand-by switch to the SEND position. Quickly adjust the PLATE
> control and
> > then the LOAD control alternately to peak (maximum meter
> deflection) the
> > power output."
> > So, as I said... peak for maximum output.
> > ...Dave
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From w1id at FCGNETWORKS.NET  Sat Dec  7 18:12:04 2002
From: w1id at FCGNETWORKS.NET (Gerald C. Lemay)
Date: Sat Dec 07 16:12:04 2002 MST
Subject: Off subject
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021207161200.00a36b80@pop.mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.13213.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


I'm looking at the T-4XC manual. On page 3-1 and continuing on page 3-5 the
proper tuning procedure is described. Adjust PLATE for plate current dip and
adjust LOAD for maximum power out. Do this alternately until there is no
further increase in power output. It doesn't simply state to adjust both
PLATE and LOAD for maximum power out. Doing so will exceed the plate power
dissipation of the 6JB6A's. Sure it's possible to much more than 120 watts
out but your finals won't last too long at that rate. The plate dissipation
rating of those tubes is only 17.5 watts. I don't know about 6146's but I
suspect they could probably take much more of a beating because they're
transmitting tubes.

-----Original Message-----
From: Heathkit Owners and Collectors List
[mailto:HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV]On Behalf Of Garey Barrell
Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 4:17 PM
To: HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV
Subject: Re: Off subject


No-one has mentioned the downside of "lightly loaded" pentode or beam power
stages.

The screen current will increase, even to destruction.

Drake also says to "tune for maximum output", and running at reduced
loading will melt screens in 6JB6's.

The correct way to reduce the power output to increase tube life is to tune
for maximum (or tube specifications if less) and then reduce drive to lower
the output.

73, Garey - K4OAH
Atlanta

At 01:47 PM 12/7/2002, Glen Zook wrote:
>However, the comment that I replied to was that you
>tune ALL of the pre-1975 equipment, not just the
>TS-520, for maximum output which is definitely wrong!
>I did point out that the manuals for some equipment do
>tell you to tune for "maximum smoke", although those
>transmitters are in a very definite minority.

snip >>><<<

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From ARDUJENSKI at AOL.COM  Sun Dec  8 12:27:22 2002
From: ARDUJENSKI at AOL.COM (Alan KB7MBI)
Date: Sun Dec 08 10:27:22 2002 MST
Subject: IT-28?
Message-ID: <mailman.13214.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


I am looking for a capacitor checker that will both check the capacitor and
read it's value. Will the IT-28 do a good job on this or do you have another
recommendation? This is for boat anchor servicing (home use only).

Alan KB7MBI in Woodinville, WA
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From maytag at EN-TEL.NET  Sun Dec  8 15:17:01 2002
From: maytag at EN-TEL.NET (W.A. Strong)
Date: Sun Dec 08 13:17:01 2002 MST
Subject: Transistor need /
Message-ID: <mailman.13215.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


 Can any one help in locating a 2cs1308 .. 
 Al I know about it is it  was in a TV  HV circuit. 
 cross ref or supply would be  very helpful. 
 bill 
 maytag at en-tel.net
 


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From k8tp at ATTBI.COM  Sun Dec  8 15:51:16 2002
From: k8tp at ATTBI.COM (Terry Perdue)
Date: Sun Dec 08 13:51:16 2002 MST
Subject: Unbuilt Heathkits - solderability of parts
Message-ID: <mailman.13216.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


I picked up an unbuilt resistance substitution box for a few bucks a while
back, and decided to build it. I was disappointed to find that even though
the components looked fine, nothing wanted to take solder. It was
particularly disappointing, because the manual had you install all of the
resistors and then solder. (I might have been able to scrape the leads and
lugs if I had known beforehand.) Even the heavy bus wire, which looked
shiny, must have had a film on it. The parts dad still been in their
unopened envelopes. I'm curious - have those of you who have given in to
temptation to build an old kit found this to be a common problem?

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From murray at MULTI-VOLTI.COM  Sun Dec  8 13:49:15 2002
From: murray at MULTI-VOLTI.COM (Multi-Volti)
Date: Sun Dec 08 11:49:15 2002 MST
Subject: SB-1000 switch stuff
Message-ID: <mailman.13217.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


The old Ameritron AL-80 (no letter suffix) is the basis for the SB-1000.

Whoever owns Ameritron now can sell you a complete switch (no choice of this
piece or that). I heard it's somewhere around $60-65.

Just say it's for an AL-80. I never heard of them asking for a s/n but if
they di I'd play dumb and say I was calling from work and didn't know I
needed it to order parts.

Don't mention it's for a Heath amp because some mfr's don't appreciate
inventorying parts for other than their intended purpose...they try to
predict how many are needed.

Murray


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From neilsmorr at HOTMAIL.COM  Sun Dec  8 18:00:38 2002
From: neilsmorr at HOTMAIL.COM (Neil Morrison)
Date: Sun Dec 08 16:00:38 2002 MST
Subject: IT-28?
Message-ID: <mailman.13218.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


FWIW, I'd use a digital multimeter for value. Add to that something
like a 100K pot fed from a 500 V DC supply, to reform and check for
voltage ratings. Feed from the tap on the pot to make sure the cap is
OK for voltage.

Neil

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan KB7MBI" <ARDUJENSKI at AOL.COM>


> I am looking for a capacitor checker that will both check the
capacitor and
> read it's value. Will the IT-28 do a good job on this or do you
have another
> recommendation? This is for boat anchor servicing (home use only).
>
> Alan KB7MBI in Woodinville, WA
> FISTS 5702  Proud member of ARRL
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From gswynar at DURHAM.NET  Sun Dec  8 18:45:58 2002
From: gswynar at DURHAM.NET (Eddy Swynar)
Date: Sun Dec 08 16:45:58 2002 MST
Subject: Unbuilt Heathkits - solderability of parts
Message-ID: <mailman.13219.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Terry,

I've found this to be true of any old parts that have tinned wire leads,
especially those big old carbon resistors that LOOK like they're very
"solder ready", but actually aren't---unless you scrape the leads with a
knife first.

I didn't know it before, but I guess tin & lead---as solder---oxidize, too,
over time.

~73~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ




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From: "Terry Perdue" <k8tp at ATTBI.COM>
To: <HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV>
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 3:51 PM
Subject: Unbuilt Heathkits - solderability of parts


> I picked up an unbuilt resistance substitution box for a few bucks a while
> back, and decided to build it. I was disappointed to find that even though
> the components looked fine, nothing wanted to take solder. It was
> particularly disappointing, because the manual had you install all of the
> resistors and then solder. (I might have been able to scrape the leads and
> lugs if I had known beforehand.) Even the heavy bus wire, which looked
> shiny, must have had a film on it. The parts dad still been in their
> unopened envelopes. I'm curious - have those of you who have given in to
> temptation to build an old kit found this to be a common problem?
>
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From gzook at YAHOO.COM  Sun Dec  8 19:20:00 2002
From: gzook at YAHOO.COM (Glen Zook)
Date: Sun Dec 08 17:20:00 2002 MST
Subject: Reciever Alignment
In-Reply-To: <003f01c29ee2$93bc8bc0$f5cbdacf@pavilion>
Message-ID: <mailman.13220.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


There is very little that you can do.  If you were to
adjust the variable capacitor on the oscillator for
one band, then all of the other bands will be affected
as well, not always in the direction that you desire.

The dials of these older receivers were designed for
an "average" of components.  However, with various
tolerances coming into effect, there were definitely
differences.  You need to look at the insides of a
Collins PTO to see what they did to get linearity over
just 1 MHz (in most models, some covered less).  There
are all sorts of mechanical adjustments made to get
the oscillator to track properly.

Especially on the general coverage receivers, they
were not designed to be frequency standards.  You just
got close with the dial and used a secondary standard
(like a 100 KHz calibrator) to make sure that you
stayed within the band.

Glen, K9STH

--- "Carl C. Miller" <bugmarx at EV1.NET> wrote:

I've noticed on some older receivers after alignment
that the ends of the bands will be dead on, such as
the BC band 550 and 1650 will be correct, but when
tuning to the middle of the bands, the frequencies
will be off maybe a few kcs high or low. What causes
this and what could one do to correct it?

=====
Glen, K9STH

Web sites

http://home.attbi.com/~k9sth
http://home.attbi.com/~zcomco

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From neilsmorr at HOTMAIL.COM  Sun Dec  8 20:29:34 2002
From: neilsmorr at HOTMAIL.COM (Neil Morrison)
Date: Sun Dec 08 18:29:34 2002 MST
Subject: Unbuilt Heathkits - solderability of parts
Message-ID: <mailman.13221.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Fine emery cloth for the leads, and some ScotchBrite for the PC
boards is pretty effective.

Neil

----- Original Message -----
From: "Eddy Swynar" <gswynar at DURHAM.NET>


> Terry,
>
> I've found this to be true of any old parts that have tinned wire
leads,
> especially those big old carbon resistors that LOOK like they're
very
> "solder ready", but actually aren't---unless you scrape the leads
with a
> knife first.
>
> I didn't know it before, but I guess tin & lead---as
solder---oxidize, too,
> over time.
>
> ~73~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ

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From radiorepair at MINDSPRING.COM  Mon Dec  9 00:34:03 2002
From: radiorepair at MINDSPRING.COM (Malcolm Leonard)
Date: Sun Dec 08 22:34:03 2002 MST
Subject: Unbuilt Heathkits - solderability of parts
Message-ID: <mailman.13222.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


It can most definitely be a problem in antique radio repair.Of course,not
all solder is created equal.Some Radio Shack solder is not the best,although
I do have some recently purchased .030 that works fine.

I have encountered maddening solderability problems in old radios and test
gear and some sets in particular exhibit such problems everywhere throughout
the set.

My approach to these is to clean the to-be -soldered lugs with denatured
(stronger than medical) alcohol followed by a buffing with fine sandpaper(#
400)wet and dry type should do the trick.
Malcolm Leonard
----- Original Message -----
From: "Terry Perdue" <k8tp at ATTBI.COM>
To: <HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV>
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 12:51 PM
Subject: Unbuilt Heathkits - solderability of parts


> I picked up an unbuilt resistance substitution box for a few bucks a while
> back, and decided to build it. I was disappointed to find that even though
> the components looked fine, nothing wanted to take solder. It was
> particularly disappointing, because the manual had you install all of the
> resistors and then solder. (I might have been able to scrape the leads and
> lugs if I had known beforehand.) Even the heavy bus wire, which looked
> shiny, must have had a film on it. The parts dad still been in their
> unopened envelopes. I'm curious - have those of you who have given in to
> temptation to build an old kit found this to be a common problem?
>
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From wfaris at INEBRASKA.COM  Sun Dec  8 21:34:45 2002
From: wfaris at INEBRASKA.COM (Wayne L. Faris)
Date: Sun Dec 08 19:34:45 2002 MST
Subject: [heathkit] Heathkit lists {01}
Message-ID: <mailman.13223.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Try this one.

http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/heathkit

Wayne L. Faris, KE?BZZ

Neil Morrison wrote:

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>
>   Hello,
>
>   Does anyone know of any active Heathkit users lists?
>
>   Wayne, NM3B
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From ARDUJENSKI at AOL.COM  Mon Dec  9 09:48:51 2002
From: ARDUJENSKI at AOL.COM (Alan KB7MBI)
Date: Mon Dec 09 07:48:51 2002 MST
Subject: C3 vs IT-28
Message-ID: <mailman.13224.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Is one better than the other performance-wise? I was wondering which one I
should be looking for. Not sure the difference betwee the *C* and the *IT*
series

Alan KB7MBI in Woodinville, WA
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From Scott.Freeberg at GUIDANT.COM  Mon Dec  9 09:49:34 2002
From: Scott.Freeberg at GUIDANT.COM (Freeberg, Scott (STP))
Date: Mon Dec 09 07:49:34 2002 MST
Subject: IT-28?
Message-ID: <mailman.13225.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Hi Alan, Yes, the IT-28 will be great for boat anchor servicing.  It does not give a precision capacitance measurement but will be fine for what we are doing.  The little green eye is fine for determining leakage.  The tester will also work out good for cap reforming since you can slowly step the voltage up, and dwell, while watching the green eye.  I have an IT-11 and its been a good performer.  73,  Scott WA9WFA

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From k4oah at MINDSPRING.COM  Mon Dec  9 10:43:05 2002
From: k4oah at MINDSPRING.COM (Garey Barrell)
Date: Mon Dec 09 08:43:05 2002 MST
Subject: Unbuilt Heathkits - solderability of parts
In-Reply-To: <003e01c29f44$9680a140$7e90ba3f@oemcomputer>
Message-ID: <mailman.13226.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Terry -

At NASA in the 60's we had a device that was like small ice tongs, (flat
metal in the shape of a letter "U") with half of a "Pink Pearl" eraser
taped with double-sticky tape to each end.  Wow, harder to describe than I
thought!

Anyway, leads were clamped between the two pieces of eraser and then drawn
out.  Two passes made them clean as new and easily solderable.  A Pink
Pearl was also used to clean the gold plating  _completely off_  of each
pad before soldering.  The gold was not to be soldered to, only to protect
the traces from corrosion.

73, Garey - K4OAH
Atlanta


>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Terry Perdue" <k8tp at ATTBI.COM>
>To: <HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV>
>Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 12:51 PM
>Subject: Unbuilt Heathkits - solderability of parts
>
>
> > I picked up an unbuilt resistance substitution box for a few bucks a while
> > back, and decided to build it. I was disappointed to find that even though
> > the components looked fine, nothing wanted to take solder. It was
> > particularly disappointing, because the manual had you install all of the
> > resistors and then solder. (I might have been able to scrape the leads and
> > lugs if I had known beforehand.) Even the heavy bus wire, which looked
> > shiny, must have had a film on it. The parts dad still been in their
> > unopened envelopes. I'm curious - have those of you who have given in to
> > temptation to build an old kit found this to be a common problem?

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From jfarr at LIVINGSTON.NET  Mon Dec  9 14:30:43 2002
From: jfarr at LIVINGSTON.NET (John Farrington)
Date: Mon Dec 09 12:30:43 2002 MST
Subject: Parts needed: are TCE/RCA SK-series transistors still around?
Message-ID: <mailman.13227.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


For a Heathkit I need a NPN/PNP complimentary transistor pair:

417-926 & 417-956, which are MPSU06 and MPSU56, which cross to a
NTE-188 & NTE-189 pair, or a NTE-49 & NTE-50 pair.

The problem is that NTE has discontinued the NTE-188 and NTE-49, so
half of those complimentary pairs are no longer available. Can
anyone suggest a currently produced substitute NPN/PNP pair?

I haven't looked for RCA's SK series for a while;  now it seems that
while I was asleep the SK line of replacement components was acquired
by Thomson Consumer Electronics, but the only information I can find
is a news item saying:

"TCE has done very little with the SK line since acquiring it, except
  for renaming it the TCE SK Series.  They have never even established
  a website, nor have they produced a recent cross reference book."

Does anyone know if there are online distributors for the SK series,
or parts houses in the Houston-Dallas TX area? The RCA parts
distributor that was here for nearly 50 years has closed, as has the
best independent parts store. I get the feeling that soon there won't
be any individual components available, and would-be tinkerers will
be regarded with suspicion.

Thanks.

John   KE5ZB

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From wb8jkr at JUNO.COM  Mon Dec  9 16:19:06 2002
From: wb8jkr at JUNO.COM (Mark Graalman WB8JKR)
Date: Mon Dec 09 14:19:06 2002 MST
Subject: VTVM probe
Message-ID: <mailman.13228.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


  Still looking for a switchable DC/AC ohms probe for the
Heath IM-18 style VTVM.

Thanks,

Mark  WB8JKR

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From noelg.page at SYMPATICO.CA  Mon Dec  9 16:49:14 2002
From: noelg.page at SYMPATICO.CA (Noel Page)
Date: Mon Dec 09 14:49:14 2002 MST
Subject: Parts needed: are TCE/RCA SK-series transistors still around?
Message-ID: <mailman.13229.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


  I cannot help with SK parts
BUT
This web address lists generic cross references to EGC parts.
http://www.flippers.com/X-Ref-ECG.html

Info. supplied without warranty !
Noel Page

John Farrington wrote:

> For a Heathkit I need a NPN/PNP complimentary transistor pair:
>
> 417-926 & 417-956, which are MPSU06 and MPSU56, which cross to a
> NTE-188 & NTE-189 pair, or a NTE-49 & NTE-50 pair.
>
> The problem is that NTE has discontinued the NTE-188 and NTE-49, so
> half of those complimentary pairs are no longer available. Can
> anyone suggest a currently produced substitute NPN/PNP pair?
>
> I haven't looked for RCA's SK series for a while;  now it seems that
> while I was asleep the SK line of replacement components was acquired
> by Thomson Consumer Electronics, but the only information I can find
> is a news item saying:
>
> "TCE has done very little with the SK line since acquiring it, except
>  for renaming it the TCE SK Series.  They have never even established
>  a website, nor have they produced a recent cross reference book."
>
> Does anyone know if there are online distributors for the SK series,
> or parts houses in the Houston-Dallas TX area? The RCA parts
> distributor that was here for nearly 50 years has closed, as has the
> best independent parts store. I get the feeling that soon there won't
> be any individual components available, and would-be tinkerers will
> be regarded with suspicion.
>
> Thanks.
>
> John   KE5ZB
>
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From eric_pierce at SYMPATICO.CA  Mon Dec  9 17:03:57 2002
From: eric_pierce at SYMPATICO.CA (Eric Pierce)
Date: Mon Dec 09 15:03:57 2002 MST
Subject: I thought that I had seen everything on ebay....
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.1.20021209130556.00a01ec0@mail.livingston.net>
Message-ID: <mailman.13230.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Wonder if someone will actually buy this:

        http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1944367847


:-)



Eric VA3EP

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From BIJ001 at MOTOROLA.COM  Mon Dec  9 16:10:07 2002
From: BIJ001 at MOTOROLA.COM (Jacobi Ilan-BIJ001)
Date: Mon Dec 09 14:10:07 2002 MST
Subject: COLLINS for Sale !
Message-ID: <mailman.13231.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


 COLLINS FOR SALE !

KWM2A TRANSCEIVER.
Ex Israeli Military intelligence Service.
Fair condition.
Works good !
NO PS .

Price: Best offer.

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From BIJ001 at MOTOROLA.COM  Mon Dec  9 16:13:14 2002
From: BIJ001 at MOTOROLA.COM (Jacobi Ilan-BIJ001)
Date: Mon Dec 09 14:13:14 2002 MST
Subject: Excellent general Coverage HF RX for Sale !
Message-ID: <mailman.13232.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


         FOR SALE !


MOTOROLA MICOM1 HF General coverage receiver.
Mint Condition.
Excellent professional Radio !
Price: 600$

Please mail me for more information.

Ilan.

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From BIJ001 at MOTOROLA.COM  Mon Dec  9 16:35:24 2002
From: BIJ001 at MOTOROLA.COM (Jacobi Ilan-BIJ001)
Date: Mon Dec 09 14:35:24 2002 MST
Subject: COLLINS for Sale !
Message-ID: <mailman.13233.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


COLLINS FOR SALE !

KWM2A TRANSCEIVER.
Ex Israeli Military intelligence Service.
Pretty Good condition.
Works  great !

I'm keeping the P.S.

Price: Best offer.

Would love to trade for a 30L-1 amplifier instead.

Ilan, 4X6MU.

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From gzook at YAHOO.COM  Mon Dec  9 17:09:24 2002
From: gzook at YAHOO.COM (Glen Zook)
Date: Mon Dec 09 15:09:24 2002 MST
Subject: I thought that I had seen everything on ebay....
In-Reply-To: <000301c29fce$df381870$c400a8c0@w2kserver>
Message-ID: <mailman.13234.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Probably!

Glen, K9STH


--- Eric Pierce <eric_pierce at SYMPATICO.CA> wrote:

Wonder if someone will actually buy this:


=====
Glen, K9STH

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http://home.attbi.com/~zcomco

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From BIJ001 at MOTOROLA.COM  Mon Dec  9 19:10:35 2002
From: BIJ001 at MOTOROLA.COM (Jacobi Ilan-BIJ001)
Date: Mon Dec 09 17:10:35 2002 MST
Subject: Excellent general Coverage HF RX for Sale !
Message-ID: <mailman.13235.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


I was talking about the MICOM  Motorola Receiver only.
Thanks for the product review.

Ilan, 4X6MU.


-----Original Message-----
From: WA2KBZ at aol.com [mailto:WA2KBZ at aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 1:47 AM
To: BIJ001 at motorola.com; HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV
Subject: Re: Excellent general Coverage HF RX for Sale !


This is a top quality HF transceiver as I recall. Unless it has T setion missing. The MICOM line had superb filters, very high stability beyond any ham set (10 Hz, -20 to +50 C, except first 12 chan ver. MICOM was 20 Hz, -30 to +60 C). MICOM -S is synth. 2-18 MHz and 2-30 MHz versions, Micom -X is free access (program from front panel) 2-30 MHZ. Best MARS/marine/CAP and supplemental Ham radio around. Least expensive ver. sold for $1800, Micom-X for $5000 or so. Anytime you see one (or its Triton-HF clone) for a few hundred its a terrific bargain. Far outclasses KWM-2 and any Kenwood type radio in rcvr desense, intermod, adj chan selectivity, stability, 3 IM, and Xmt is 125 watts but with mild compression has talk power of a normal 250 watt unit. I have seen hams pass them up as they did not know what they were (like sort of like a MOCOM-70 with a dash mount front panel).  Thought I would take this op. to tell fellow GB'ers about this great unit as the Ham Fest season is upon!
 u!
s.

73

Karl
Retired Chief HF Consultant of Motorola

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From pratt.family at VERIZON.NET  Tue Dec 10 00:38:06 2002
From: pratt.family at VERIZON.NET (Jim & Brenda Pratt)
Date: Mon Dec 09 22:38:06 2002 MST
Subject: I thought that I had seen everything on ebay....
In-Reply-To: <000301c29fce$df381870$c400a8c0@w2kserver>
Message-ID: <mailman.13236.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Hahahahahahahahahaha!!! Folks! Now I have seen everything.... I am sure
someone from the shallow end of the gene pool will just have to have this
one..

Cheers!
Jim K7QI

-----Original Message-----
From: Heathkit Owners and Collectors List
[mailto:HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV]On Behalf Of Eric Pierce
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 2:04 PM
To: HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV
Subject: I thought that I had seen everything on ebay....


Wonder if someone will actually buy this:

        http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1944367847


:-)



Eric VA3EP

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From aekjrs at COMCAST.NET  Mon Dec  9 20:08:40 2002
From: aekjrs at COMCAST.NET (Jim S.)
Date: Mon Dec 09 18:08:40 2002 MST
Subject: DX-40 Insignia
Message-ID: <mailman.13237.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Hello,
I'm looking for the plastic Heathkit insignia that's on the DX-40 front
panel. If someone has a junker or parts radio, I'd like to buy that little
chrome plastic piece.

 Thanks de Jim - K4AEK

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From christrask at EARTHLINK.NET  Mon Dec  9 20:25:49 2002
From: christrask at EARTHLINK.NET (Chris Trask)
Date: Mon Dec 09 18:25:49 2002 MST
Subject: I thought that I had seen everything on ebay....
Message-ID: <mailman.13238.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Pierce" <eric_pierce at SYMPATICO.CA>
To: <HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV>
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 3:03 PM
Subject: I thought that I had seen everything on ebay....

> Wonder if someone will actually buy this:
>
>         http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1944367847
>
> :-)
>
> Eric VA3EP
>

    I wonder what sort of shipping container they'll use to mail it. :{b

Chris

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From w0akg at AEROSURF.NET  Tue Dec 10 07:23:11 2002
From: w0akg at AEROSURF.NET (Martin Tippin)
Date: Tue Dec 10 05:23:11 2002 MST
Subject: REF. I've seen everything.
Message-ID: <mailman.13239.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


I have the original carton for a Heatkit SB-220. any takers for $50.00? hi hi
Martin L Tippin W?AKG
140 Monarch Lane
Branson, Mo 65616

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From wb8jpj at ADELPHIA.NET  Tue Dec 10 07:54:47 2002
From: wb8jpj at ADELPHIA.NET (Dwight D. Smith Sr.)
Date: Tue Dec 10 05:54:47 2002 MST
Subject: I thought I had seen everything on ebay......
Message-ID: <mailman.13240.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


I met a man just a few weeks ago and his wife collects empty boxes.  Maybe she will want it!

Dwight

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From wb8jpj at ADELPHIA.NET  Tue Dec 10 08:41:46 2002
From: wb8jpj at ADELPHIA.NET (Dwight D. Smith Sr.)
Date: Tue Dec 10 06:41:46 2002 MST
Subject: Empty Boxes
Message-ID: <mailman.13241.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


How about $75.00 for my empty HW-101 box?  Any takers?  No I think I will hold on to it, who knows, in 10 years it may be worth $750.00.  

Dwight

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From radiorepair at MINDSPRING.COM  Tue Dec 10 13:28:18 2002
From: radiorepair at MINDSPRING.COM (Malcolm Leonard)
Date: Tue Dec 10 11:28:18 2002 MST
Subject: Why are so many people quitting this list?
Message-ID: <mailman.13242.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Seriously speaking,anybody got any ideas as to why we have this sudden flurry of people opting out of this list?This list has been very good to me and I can't find anything seriously wrong with it.
Malcolm Leonard

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From angerli at ATTBI.COM  Tue Dec 10 09:55:36 2002
From: angerli at ATTBI.COM (Sandy Gerli, AC1Y/G5CPJ)
Date: Tue Dec 10 07:55:36 2002 MST
Subject: REF.: I've Seen Everything...
Message-ID: <mailman.13243.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Hi, gang,

You know, years ago (early '80s) while I was working at the ARRL, there
was a thread of Ham-Ads that would occasionally turn up selling
"Original Cartons" for all manner of gear. We got a laugh out of that
then; some poor wags actually bought them!

What comes around, goes around, I guess!

73,

Sandy

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Telephone: 1-860-675-5566
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Restore something...anything...as long as it has tubes!
Sure beats booze, and you can get up afterwards...
IF you stay away from the B-plus...

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From wb9iog at REVEALED.NET  Tue Dec 10 11:44:12 2002
From: wb9iog at REVEALED.NET (MIKE SOUHRADA)
Date: Tue Dec 10 09:44:12 2002 MST
Subject: Why are so many people quitting this list?
Message-ID: <mailman.13244.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Malcolm Leonard wrote:
> Seriously speaking,anybody got any ideas as to why we have this sudden flurry of people opting out of this list?This list has been very good to me and I can't find anything seriously wrong with it.


Malcolm Leonard
How can you tell?
Might be a problem with Tempe.Gov as I was dumped by that server on
the boatanchor list because their server was getting bounced messages
sent to me. Never got a reply back from the manager after my inquiry. At
the same time I WAS receiving the Heath messages from the same site??

Someone had spoofed my name and was sending out a GAY message and I
never figgured out how that was done our how many were sent. I'm using
mailwasher to eliminate spam and it seems that it would be too easy to
block the wrong site the way spam is being distributed today.
Really getting terrible@!
So possibly the tempe.gov site is being used by spammers and then dumped
by users??
Mike
Iowa

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From keith.harvey at SYMPATICO.CA  Tue Dec 10 11:49:23 2002
From: keith.harvey at SYMPATICO.CA (Keith Harvey)
Date: Tue Dec 10 09:49:23 2002 MST
Subject: Malcolms question
Message-ID: <mailman.13245.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Malcolm.. I suspect that at this time of the year many members "unsubscribe" for the time they will be away for the winter. Thats what I have to do so that my e-mail in basket doesn't load up for a couple of months. Retrieving e-mail via celfone while "on the road" can be costly!

73

Keith  VA3KRV

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From keith.hunt at SFCC.EDU  Tue Dec 10 11:51:48 2002
From: keith.hunt at SFCC.EDU (Hunt, Keith)
Date: Tue Dec 10 09:51:48 2002 MST
Subject: Cap Voltage
Message-ID: <mailman.13246.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Got another question for the list,In the HW12A I am rebuilding  has 6
values of mica caps...HK#  20-96, 20-102, 20-112,   20-131,   20- 122,
and   20- 127...
Does anyone know the voltage?
Thanks as always!
Keith

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From ekotkie at EZL.COM  Tue Dec 10 12:25:55 2002
From: ekotkie at EZL.COM (Ed Kotkiewicz)
Date: Tue Dec 10 10:25:55 2002 MST
Subject: Why are so many people quitting this list?
Message-ID: <mailman.13247.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Malcolm Leonard wrote:

> Seriously speaking,anybody got any ideas as to why we have this sudden flurry of people opting out of this list?This list has been very good to me and I can't find anything seriously wrong with it.
> Malcolm Leonard

EK> Malcolm, I think it is a seasonal thing what with the holidays.  I think Dave has seen this over the years so I wouldn't be too alarmed.  It is a great list with a lot of helpful folks.

Ed

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From rayfri at NETWORLD.COM  Tue Dec 10 11:17:46 2002
From: rayfri at NETWORLD.COM (rayfri)
Date: Tue Dec 10 09:17:46 2002 MST
Subject: I thought that I had seen everything on ebay....
Message-ID: <mailman.13248.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Now, I know that P.T. Barnum said that one is born every minute... but even
HE
wouldnt believe that someone would go for this one.....
     However, since I'm a betting man... I'll bet that someone will.  It
seems there
gets to be less and less intelligence all the time.....



Jim & Brenda Pratt wrote:

> Hahahahahahahahahaha!!! Folks! Now I have seen everything.... I am sure
> someone from the shallow end of the gene pool will just have to have this
> one..
>
> Cheers!
> Jim K7QI
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Heathkit Owners and Collectors List
> [mailto:HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV]On Behalf Of Eric Pierce
> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 2:04 PM
> To: HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV
> Subject: I thought that I had seen everything on ebay....
>
> Wonder if someone will actually buy this:
>
>         http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1944367847
>
> :-)
>
> Eric VA3EP
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From rayfri at NETWORLD.COM  Tue Dec 10 11:20:58 2002
From: rayfri at NETWORLD.COM (rayfri)
Date: Tue Dec 10 09:20:58 2002 MST
Subject: REF. I've seen everything.
Message-ID: <mailman.13249.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


I have the original power plug from a heathkit...  not the whole plug and wire...

just the plug that went into the wall outlet...
I also have some of the packing cardboard inserts that went in a heathkit box
to hold the parts steady.       any interest?
(tongue firmly planted in cheek)



Martin Tippin wrote:

> I have the original carton for a Heatkit SB-220. any takers for $50.00? hi hi
> Martin L Tippin W?AKG
> 140 Monarch Lane
> Branson, Mo 65616
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From rayfri at NETWORLD.COM  Tue Dec 10 11:23:58 2002
From: rayfri at NETWORLD.COM (rayfri)
Date: Tue Dec 10 09:23:58 2002 MST
Subject: REF.: I've Seen Everything...
Message-ID: <mailman.13250.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Sandy:
Try selling that to your home insurance company if the house catches fire
and
the boxes are lost...      "But Mr. Agent... they boxes were priceless, I
should get
a huge settlement for some burned up cardboard"



"Sandy Gerli, AC1Y/G5CPJ" wrote:

> Hi, gang,
>
> You know, years ago (early '80s) while I was working at the ARRL, there
> was a thread of Ham-Ads that would occasionally turn up selling
> "Original Cartons" for all manner of gear. We got a laugh out of that
> then; some poor wags actually bought them!
>
> What comes around, goes around, I guess!
>
> 73,
>
> Sandy
>
> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> Sandy Gerli, AC1Y/G5CPJ
> 500 Country Club Road
> Avon, CT  06001-2406  USA
> e-mail: angerli at attbi.com
> Telephone: 1-860-675-5566
> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> Boatanchors are Ham Radio's living heritage!
> Restore something...anything...as long as it has tubes!
> Sure beats booze, and you can get up afterwards...
> IF you stay away from the B-plus...
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From wn2sqc at JUNO.COM  Tue Dec 10 12:01:20 2002
From: wn2sqc at JUNO.COM (Ken Dupuis Wn2Sqc)
Date: Tue Dec 10 10:01:20 2002 MST
Subject: REF.: I've Seen Everything...
Message-ID: <mailman.13251.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


It seems funny to me also but I've received higher prices on ebay with
old radios in original cartons. I have an Ameritron amp listed on QRZ and
one guy who is interested asked that question first, "you got the
original boxes". Remember, they laughed and called it Sewards Folly, and
look what Alaska is worth now, you just never know, Ken

On Tue, 10 Dec 2002 09:55:36 -0500 "Sandy Gerli, AC1Y/G5CPJ"
<angerli at ATTBI.COM> writes:
> Hi, gang,
>
> You know, years ago (early '80s) while I was working at the ARRL,
> there
> was a thread of Ham-Ads that would occasionally turn up selling
> "Original Cartons" for all manner of gear. We got a laugh out of
> that
> then; some poor wags actually bought them!
>
> What comes around, goes around, I guess!
>
> 73,
>
> Sandy
>
> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> Sandy Gerli, AC1Y/G5CPJ
> 500 Country Club Road
> Avon, CT  06001-2406  USA
> e-mail: angerli at attbi.com
> Telephone: 1-860-675-5566
> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> Boatanchors are Ham Radio's living heritage!
> Restore something...anything...as long as it has tubes!
> Sure beats booze, and you can get up afterwards...
> IF you stay away from the B-plus...
>
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From e.j.forwood at JUNO.COM  Tue Dec 10 12:04:43 2002
From: e.j.forwood at JUNO.COM (E. Jerold Forwood)
Date: Tue Dec 10 10:04:43 2002 MST
Subject: I thought that I had seen everything on ebay....
Message-ID: <mailman.13252.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Keep on laughing, but check back in 5 days.  You may be able to watch
someone laugh all the way to the bank!  Just remember what P. T. Barnum
said.  There are 3600 minutes in 5 days!
73's de Jerry, K?EJF

On Mon, 9 Dec 2002 21:38:06 -0800 Jim & Brenda Pratt
<pratt.family at VERIZON.NET> writes:
> Hahahahahahahahahaha!!! Folks! Now I have seen everything.... I am
> sure
> someone from the shallow end of the gene pool will just have to have
> this
> one..
>
> Cheers!
> Jim K7QI
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Heathkit Owners and Collectors List
> [mailto:HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV]On Behalf Of Eric Pierce
> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 2:04 PM
> To: HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV
> Subject: I thought that I had seen everything on ebay....
>
>
> Wonder if someone will actually buy this:
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1944367847
>
>
> :-)
>
>
>
> Eric VA3EP
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From wn3vaw at FYI.NET  Tue Dec 10 13:19:31 2002
From: wn3vaw at FYI.NET (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Dec 10 11:19:31 2002 MST
Subject: REF.: I've Seen Everything...
Message-ID: <mailman.13253.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Well...

In the mid-80's, I worked in a (now defunct) ham store here in Pittsburgh.
Bought a TS-430S we'd taken in on trade (that's a long story in & of
itself).  When I placed the order with Kenwood for the Owners & Service
Manual and some other odds 'n' ends we didn't normally stock, I actually did
order the "factory shipping" box, the styrofoam inserts, even the plastic
cover it normally came with.  At the time, it only cost about $10 or so.
Kenwood put everything inside the box I ordered, then put that inside a
larger box.

Now the Kenwood folks thought I was nutz (I am, which is also another story)
and a lot of people had some fun with it, but let's face it, when you're
packing equipment up to ship or otherwise transport, having this stuff
around is real handy!

73, ron wn3vaw

"You used up all the glue ON PURPOSE!"
In Memory of Shep K2ORS (SK) and 10:15 PM on WOR 710 AM

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sandy Gerli, AC1Y/G5CPJ" <angerli at ATTBI.COM>
To: <HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV>
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 9:55 AM
Subject: REF.: I've Seen Everything...


Hi, gang,

You know, years ago (early '80s) while I was working at the ARRL, there
was a thread of Ham-Ads that would occasionally turn up selling
"Original Cartons" for all manner of gear. We got a laugh out of that
then; some poor wags actually bought them!

What comes around, goes around, I guess!

73,

Sandy

--
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Sandy Gerli, AC1Y/G5CPJ
500 Country Club Road
Avon, CT  06001-2406  USA
e-mail: angerli at attbi.com
Telephone: 1-860-675-5566
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Boatanchors are Ham Radio's living heritage!
Restore something...anything...as long as it has tubes!
Sure beats booze, and you can get up afterwards...
IF you stay away from the B-plus...

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From neilsmorr at HOTMAIL.COM  Tue Dec 10 14:10:02 2002
From: neilsmorr at HOTMAIL.COM (Neil Morrison)
Date: Tue Dec 10 12:10:02 2002 MST
Subject: REF.: I've Seen Everything...
Message-ID: <mailman.13254.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


People actually buy empty Radio Shack Color Computer cartons, so ...!

Neil

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sandy Gerli, AC1Y/G5CPJ" <angerli at ATTBI.COM>


> Hi, gang,
>
> You know, years ago (early '80s) while I was working at the ARRL,
there
> was a thread of Ham-Ads that would occasionally turn up selling
> "Original Cartons" for all manner of gear. We got a laugh out of
that
> then; some poor wags actually bought them!
>
> What comes around, goes around, I guess!
>
> 73,
>
> Sandy

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From soundimp at POBOX.COM  Tue Dec 10 18:28:21 2002
From: soundimp at POBOX.COM (Bob Peters)
Date: Tue Dec 10 16:28:21 2002 MST
Subject: I thought that I had seen everything on ebay....
In-Reply-To: <LFEDJMLFGBLMMMOBAHHCEEOBCNAA.pratt.family@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <mailman.13255.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


I hope it does I have an original Collins 75S1 box with all packing materials
Should  bring big  bucks  if the heath sells....

Bob K1JNN






At 09:38 PM 12/9/02 -0800, Jim & Brenda Pratt wrote:
>Hahahahahahahahahaha!!! Folks! Now I have seen everything.... I am sure
>someone from the shallow end of the gene pool will just have to have this
>one..
>
>Cheers!
>Jim K7QI
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Heathkit Owners and Collectors List
>[mailto:HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV]On Behalf Of Eric Pierce
>Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 2:04 PM
>To: HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV
>Subject: I thought that I had seen everything on ebay....
>
>
>Wonder if someone will actually buy this:
>
>         http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1944367847
>
>
>:-)
>
>
>
>Eric VA3EP
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From crandall at EE.NET  Tue Dec 10 20:45:23 2002
From: crandall at EE.NET (Rob)
Date: Tue Dec 10 18:45:23 2002 MST
Subject: Greetings all and O-5 questions
Message-ID: <mailman.13256.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Hello all
 I am new to the Heathkit group ,lifestyle and ham radio in general.I recently aquired a O-5 oscilliscope. I was wondering if you guys know anything about them. Is it useful for ham stuff or is it strictly a view piece? Any guidance you can help me with would be great. I also have been fascinated by tube rigs for a long time. I just bought(yet to arrive) a HW-101 w/ power supply and speaker. It will be a welcome addition to my shack. Anyhow Hello to all and I hope I can someday contribute to all the knowledge that presides here.
73
 Rob W8CRZ

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From hiddenhills at SURFMORE.NET  Tue Dec 10 22:38:33 2002
From: hiddenhills at SURFMORE.NET (Robert Keeble)
Date: Tue Dec 10 20:38:33 2002 MST
Subject: SB-200 Questions
Message-ID: <mailman.13257.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Hello group,
I recently acquired and SB -200 and it was shipped parcel. Arrived fine but the 572-b s were wrapped and stored on top of the fan and must have taken a lick and bent the blades down and I didn't notice it until I fired it up. Opened it back up to straighten the fan out and discharged the anode clip of the tubes to chassis like the book said. Really got a big pop when I did and an immediate black spot the size of a quarter at the lower side of the glass bulb  and a smaller one on the other tube.
    It seems like it may have damage the 572 tubes because after that incident, I can only load it up to about 250 watts and was able to reach 600 before that.

Also show no plate current at all at idle (exciter at minimum) and the book says the reading should be 90 ma. After adjusting tune and load for max reading out, I can increase exciter to max (100 w) and then retune the drive and load for max.   
 Finally retune the load control to keep plate within 500 ma range.

All the while, the grid reading is way down on the low side of the scale never getting over about a fifth of the way up the white scale.

Also, both of the 572 s plates begin to glow red to orange after  less than a minute!

I see similar results when using my Icom 746 or my SB-401 to excite the amp. (The amp also has the soft key installed)

I am thinking I need to replace the tubes but before I shed a c-note, I thought I would ask for some advice!

Thanks in advance for any wisdom that you all can share. 

Maybe I qualify for the "Stupid Ham Trick" award for ruining my tubes!  

Bob,  KG4NVX

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From cjs004 at ATTBI.COM  Tue Dec 10 22:50:20 2002
From: cjs004 at ATTBI.COM (John Schmitz)
Date: Tue Dec 10 20:50:20 2002 MST
Subject: Discolored Front PAnel
Message-ID: <mailman.13258.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Anybody know how to reverse the discoloration problem that occurs on some
front panels? I have an IG-1275 Lin/Log Gen and an IM-2420 Counter which
have front panels that have yellowed. The font panels are plastic and I
suspect that Ultraviolet light from sun light or something causes them to
yellow but I really don't know what causes this. Any ideas how to reverse
it?


John R. Schmitz

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From gzook at YAHOO.COM  Wed Dec 11 00:27:24 2002
From: gzook at YAHOO.COM (Glen Zook)
Date: Tue Dec 10 22:27:24 2002 MST
Subject: Equipment and cabinets for sale
Message-ID: <mailman.13259.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


To save bandwidth, I have posted some various
equipment including Heath for sale on

http://home.attbi.com/~zcomco

The equipment is the 7th link from the top and there
are some restored cabinets on the 2nd link from the
bottom.

Glen, K9STH

=====
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Web sites

http://home.attbi.com/~k9sth
http://home.attbi.com/~zcomco

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From rkaeding at HEATHKIT.COM  Wed Dec 11 08:40:15 2002
From: rkaeding at HEATHKIT.COM (Randy Kaeding)
Date: Wed Dec 11 06:40:15 2002 MST
Subject: Heathkit in movie
Message-ID: <mailman.13260.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Maybe some others of you have already noticed this, but I just watched the
movie "The Last Stop" that I taped from HBO.

In one scene, plain as day, is a Heathkit DX-100. To the right of it looked
like a National receiver.

Anyone else see this?

Randy, K8TMK
"One of the Hams (still) at Heathkit"

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From cybergeezer74 at HOTMAIL.COM  Wed Dec 11 09:14:57 2002
From: cybergeezer74 at HOTMAIL.COM (CyberGeezer)
Date: Wed Dec 11 07:14:57 2002 MST
Subject: Greetings all and O-5 questions
Message-ID: <mailman.13261.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob" <crandall at EE.NET>

> I am new to the Heathkit group ,lifestyle
> and ham radio in general. ...

Welcome OM!

> I just bought(yet to arrive) a HW-101
> w/ power supply and speaker. ...

I have one in front of me now!!  If you'd like I'll send
you scans of an article that was in CQ Magazine around a
year ago titled "Restoring the HW-101".

73 de W2GERry

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From mkx at SYMPATICO.CA  Wed Dec 11 11:14:46 2002
From: mkx at SYMPATICO.CA (M. Kassay)
Date: Wed Dec 11 09:14:46 2002 MST
Subject: Heathkit wanted !
Message-ID: <mailman.13262.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


WANTED !


Heathkit  Weather Station  ID-4001 or 5001 series  -   working or
not

Heathkit  Rain Gauge  -   working or not

Heathkit brown desk mic  HDP-121 style

If you have anything that might interest me, pls send me an
Email.

73 Mike
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year !

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From hamiller at BTECHDESIGN.COM  Wed Dec 11 12:22:23 2002
From: hamiller at BTECHDESIGN.COM (H.A.Miller)
Date: Wed Dec 11 10:22:23 2002 MST
Subject: sb201 manual
Message-ID: <mailman.13263.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


I have just acquired a SB201 amp. Can anybody furnish one?
H.A.Miller, W5BWA, 5812 Hiawatha Dr., Alexandria, LA 71301

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From k4hca at ALLTEL.NET  Wed Dec 11 16:22:56 2002
From: k4hca at ALLTEL.NET (Harold Hairston)
Date: Wed Dec 11 14:22:56 2002 MST
Subject: Why are so many people quitting this list?
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Just one person's observation; it seems that much of the posts in recent month's have nothing to do with Heath matters.

Harold

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From Wb2fou at AOL.COM  Wed Dec 11 17:56:49 2002
From: Wb2fou at AOL.COM (Marty Wb2Fou)
Date: Wed Dec 11 15:56:49 2002 MST
Subject: item for sale
Message-ID: <mailman.13265.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


heath dolby fm module ad-1504 . 15 plus shipping .

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From wb9hgz at charlottesville.net  Wed Dec 11 18:27:47 2002
From: wb9hgz at charlottesville.net (Paul K. Dean)
Date: Wed Dec 11 16:27:47 2002 MST
Subject: Why are so many people quitting this list?
In-Reply-To: <3DF7ACB0.798922D7@alltel.net>
Message-ID: <mailman.13266.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Harold and list members -

Your observation is correct.  In fact, I have a batch of about 12 "empty
box" messages that I need to release to the list.  Thought I'd hold them a
bit until the activity slowed down some.

Bottom line here is that when I volunteered for the moderator's job, Dave
and I discussed whether we should institute a "Heathkit only" policy.  Dave
felt that it would be good to allow for a more broad subject base.
Therefore, as long as the posts are radio or electronics related and not
offensive, we generally let them through.  (You note that I often construe
that fairly loosely, i.e. the "empty box" thread.)

If you, the list members, are put off by what I will call "chatter", please
feel free to let me know (privately, off list).  If there is a consensus
that the current policies are a bit too lenient in terms of topic coverage,
I'll discuss it with Dave and we could perhaps narrow it a bit.  I
understand that some of the threads do get a bit lengthy and sometimes
offer no real content.

It's a balancing act, indeed!

Thanks, all!


At 04:22 PM 12/11/02 -0500, you wrote:
>Just one person's observation; it seems that much of the posts in recent
month's have nothing to do with Heath matters.
>
>Harold
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From GROSSMANCR at AOL.COM  Wed Dec 11 19:13:15 2002
From: GROSSMANCR at AOL.COM (Chuck Grossman)
Date: Wed Dec 11 17:13:15 2002 MST
Subject: Manuals for sale
Message-ID: <mailman.13267.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


             I have several Heathkit manuals for sale.  Best offer for each.

GC - 1A       Mohican Communications Receiver.

GW - 30       Hand Held Citizen's Band Transceiver

XP - 2           Power Pack for GC - 1A  Receiver

       All are in good condition.

Chuck

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From wb9hgz at charlottesville.net  Wed Dec 11 19:26:51 2002
From: wb9hgz at charlottesville.net (Paul K. Dean)
Date: Wed Dec 11 17:26:51 2002 MST
Subject: Warning - incoming!
Message-ID: <mailman.13268.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Anyone who is tired of the "empty box" thread, just delete the next 11
messages!

Fair warning given.  :)

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From neilsmorr at HOTMAIL.COM  Tue Dec 10 20:23:20 2002
From: neilsmorr at HOTMAIL.COM (Neil Morrison)
Date: Tue Dec 10 18:23:20 2002 MST
Subject: I thought that I had seen everything on ebay....
Message-ID: <mailman.13269.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


All the old junk we got our granny to get rid of now turns up on
"Antiques Road Show". An old Apple I sold for $1100 on eBay. Unbuilt
Heaths in original box sell for $$$$$$. Even the old Heath and Radio
Shack catalos which were free sell for about $10 each. Hell, I paid a
few bucks for an Allied catalogue from the 50's. Don't laugh boys,
lest the laugh be on you.

Neil

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Peters" <soundimp at POBOX.COM>


> I hope it does I have an original Collins 75S1 box with all packing
materials
> Should  bring big  bucks  if the heath sells....
>
> Bob K1JNN

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From neilsmorr at HOTMAIL.COM  Tue Dec 10 20:24:10 2002
From: neilsmorr at HOTMAIL.COM (Neil Morrison)
Date: Tue Dec 10 18:24:10 2002 MST
Subject: I thought that I had seen everything on ebay....
Message-ID: <mailman.13270.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


All the old junk we got our granny to get rid of now turns up on
"Antiques Road Show". An old Apple I sold for $1100 on eBay. Unbuilt
Heaths in original box sell for $$$$$$. Even the old Heath and Radio
Shack catalogs which were free sell for about $10 each. Hell, I paid
a few bucks for an Allied catalogue from the 50's. Don't laugh boys,
lest the laugh be on you.

Neil

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Peters" <soundimp at POBOX.COM>


> I hope it does I have an original Collins 75S1 box with all packing
materials
> Should  bring big  bucks  if the heath sells....
>
> Bob K1JNN

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From milton at FERGUSON.NET  Tue Dec 10 20:43:23 2002
From: milton at FERGUSON.NET (Milton Ferguson)
Date: Tue Dec 10 18:43:23 2002 MST
Subject: REF.: I've Seen Everything...
Message-ID: <mailman.13271.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Re :original packaging:
   I don't understand all the comments deriding interest in original
boxes.  I'm sure most members, and especially collectors, would prefer
an item to be in its original packaging (if available). Within reason,
the packaging enhances the value of the item. Thus, obtaining an (empty)
original box for an item to be sold is understandable.  This is
particularly true for unbuilt kits and "restored" kits.
    73s
   Milt. Ferguson

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From rayfri at NETWORLD.COM  Tue Dec 10 21:06:26 2002
From: rayfri at NETWORLD.COM (rayfri)
Date: Tue Dec 10 19:06:26 2002 MST
Subject: REF.: I've Seen Everything...
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Damn!!  I threw out my color computer box when I took the thing to the local

goodwill store....
If I'd known people were buying the boxes, I'd have put it up for sale and
given
the computer to whoever bought the box....


Neil Morrison wrote:

> People actually buy empty Radio Shack Color Computer cartons, so ...!
>
> Neil
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sandy Gerli, AC1Y/G5CPJ" <angerli at ATTBI.COM>
>
> > Hi, gang,
> >
> > You know, years ago (early '80s) while I was working at the ARRL,
> there
> > was a thread of Ham-Ads that would occasionally turn up selling
> > "Original Cartons" for all manner of gear. We got a laugh out of
> that
> > then; some poor wags actually bought them!
> >
> > What comes around, goes around, I guess!
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Sandy
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From rayfri at NETWORLD.COM  Tue Dec 10 21:07:14 2002
From: rayfri at NETWORLD.COM (rayfri)
Date: Tue Dec 10 19:07:14 2002 MST
Subject: I thought that I had seen everything on ebay....
Message-ID: <mailman.13273.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


bob:
how much for just the styrofoam pieces in the box?   HI HI


Bob Peters wrote:

> I hope it does I have an original Collins 75S1 box with all packing materials
> Should  bring big  bucks  if the heath sells....
>
> Bob K1JNN
>
> At 09:38 PM 12/9/02 -0800, Jim & Brenda Pratt wrote:
> >Hahahahahahahahahaha!!! Folks! Now I have seen everything.... I am sure
> >someone from the shallow end of the gene pool will just have to have this
> >one..
> >
> >Cheers!
> >Jim K7QI
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Heathkit Owners and Collectors List
> >[mailto:HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV]On Behalf Of Eric Pierce
> >Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 2:04 PM
> >To: HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV
> >Subject: I thought that I had seen everything on ebay....
> >
> >
> >Wonder if someone will actually buy this:
> >
> >         http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1944367847
> >
> >
> >:-)
> >
> >
> >
> >Eric VA3EP
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From w7prv at TELEPORT.COM  Tue Dec 10 21:19:49 2002
From: w7prv at TELEPORT.COM (FRED HOLNAGEL)
Date: Tue Dec 10 19:19:49 2002 MST
Subject: Empty Boxes
Message-ID: <mailman.13274.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Re:Empty boxes. Alright you guys.  How many Kenwood, Icom, Yaesu, boxes do you have on shelves or in the attic taking up space. Why are you saving them? I had two identical Coleman lanterns, brand new. I listed them on the same date 10 minutes apart with reference to see other auction. The one with the box brought $55.00 more. I hope someone has the right empty boxes offered soon as I have one more lantern! BTW, ever watch 'Antiques Road Show?"  I'll pay or trade for an empty Kenwood TS 520S box. Fred W7PRV

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From n7rk at COX.NET  Tue Dec 10 21:54:50 2002
From: n7rk at COX.NET (David Hollander)
Date: Tue Dec 10 19:54:50 2002 MST
Subject: I thought that I had seen everything on ebay....
Message-ID: <mailman.13275.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


If you think this is crazy and you want to see big bucks spent on boxes,
look at the Lionel and American Flyer train collectors. Some of them
will pay more for the box than the piece that goes in the box even if
the ends are falling off (provided the ends are still with the box since
that identifies it). Lionel collectors have even gone as far as
reproducing boxes marked for a particular piece. On older trains, they
are worth considerably more when in the original box. Old Star wars
figures are worth a lot if they are unopened. Poor kid-his parents
wouldn't let him play with his toys! same with matchbox cars (how many
kids kept the boxes?)

Although this one is a bit far fetched, stuff goes for more when in the
original boxes or packaging. But as far as an this particular Heathkit
and it's collectability...who cares??

Dave N7RK

--
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Dave  N7RK                    http://members.cox.net/n7rk
Phoenix, Arizona         *DXCC Honor Roll*    *WAZ#23 - 75 Meter SSB*

            ex-XE2/N7RK, N7RK/ZB2, VK2ERK, ZM0AJN, WB6NRK, WN6IWX

Boatanchor Collector Extraordinaire preferring Hallicrafters, National
and what ever else looks interesting!

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From kevin_ward at JUNO.COM  Tue Dec 10 17:55:03 2002
From: kevin_ward at JUNO.COM (Kevin J Ward)
Date: Tue Dec 10 15:55:03 2002 MST
Subject: .  .  .  seen everything.
Message-ID: <mailman.13276.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Hey rayfri -

Is it the large, black plastic, two-prong plug that holds two 3AG fuses?
If yes, I bid two bucks, postpaid.  Nix on the cardboard.

Kevin  N2IE

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From w1id at FCGNETWORKS.NET  Wed Dec 11 12:52:52 2002
From: w1id at FCGNETWORKS.NET (Gerald C. Lemay)
Date: Wed Dec 11 10:52:52 2002 MST
Subject: REF.: I've Seen Everything...
In-Reply-To: <20021210.120121.4364.0.wn2sqc@juno.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.13277.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


That's what I think. Someone is going to buy the box in order to resell it
along with a rig. The listing will then go something "...with original
box!". It sure is funny but when you look at the bid prices, they're
always much higher when the "original" box comes with the item.

> It seems funny to me also but I've received higher prices on ebay with
> old radios in original cartons. I have an Ameritron amp listed on QRZ
> and one guy who is interested asked that question first, "you got the
> original boxes". Remember, they laughed and called it Sewards Folly, and
> look what Alaska is worth now, you just never know, Ken
>
> On Tue, 10 Dec 2002 09:55:36 -0500 "Sandy Gerli, AC1Y/G5CPJ"
> <angerli at ATTBI.COM> writes:
>> Hi, gang,
>>
>> You know, years ago (early '80s) while I was working at the ARRL,
>> there
>> was a thread of Ham-Ads that would occasionally turn up selling
>> "Original Cartons" for all manner of gear. We got a laugh out of that
>> then; some poor wags actually bought them!
>>
>> What comes around, goes around, I guess!
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Sandy
>>
>> --
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> Sandy Gerli, AC1Y/G5CPJ
>> 500 Country Club Road
>> Avon, CT  06001-2406  USA
>> e-mail: angerli at attbi.com
>> Telephone: 1-860-675-5566
>> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>> Boatanchors are Ham Radio's living heritage!
>> Restore something...anything...as long as it has tubes!
>> Sure beats booze, and you can get up afterwards...
>> IF you stay away from the B-plus...
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From e.j.forwood at JUNO.COM  Wed Dec 11 18:29:50 2002
From: e.j.forwood at JUNO.COM (E. Jerold Forwood)
Date: Wed Dec 11 16:29:50 2002 MST
Subject: REF.: I've Seen Everything...
Message-ID: <mailman.13278.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


All you have to do is:   1) take a picture of them.    2) Show, by virtue
of your receipt, that you were stupid enough to pay the price you say you
did.   3) Ask your agent for a quote on the rider to include them.  4) Be
stupid enough to pay for the insurance.  But then you would have had to
be stupid enough to purchase them in the first place! Hi! Hi!
Insurance agents will help you spend you money for anything you want, no
matter how stupid!
73's de Jerry, K?EJF


Tue, 10 Dec 2002 09:23:58 -0700 rayfri <rayfri at NETWORLD.COM> writes:
> Sandy:
> Try selling that to your home insurance company if the house catches
> fire
> and
> the boxes are lost...      "But Mr. Agent... they boxes were
> priceless, I
> should get
> a huge settlement for some burned up cardboard"
>
>
>
> "Sandy Gerli, AC1Y/G5CPJ" wrote:
>
> > Hi, gang,
> >
> > You know, years ago (early '80s) while I was working at the ARRL,
> there
> > was a thread of Ham-Ads that would occasionally turn up selling
> > "Original Cartons" for all manner of gear. We got a laugh out of
> that
> > then; some poor wags actually bought them!
> >
> > What comes around, goes around, I guess!
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Sandy
> >
> > --
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > Sandy Gerli, AC1Y/G5CPJ
> > 500 Country Club Road
> > Avon, CT  06001-2406  USA
> > e-mail: angerli at attbi.com
> > Telephone: 1-860-675-5566
> > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> > Boatanchors are Ham Radio's living heritage!
> > Restore something...anything...as long as it has tubes!
> > Sure beats booze, and you can get up afterwards...
> > IF you stay away from the B-plus...
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From damon161 at ATTBI.COM  Tue Dec 10 20:58:18 2002
From: damon161 at ATTBI.COM (Damon Hill)
Date: Tue Dec 10 18:58:18 2002 MST
Subject: REF.: I've Seen Everything...
Message-ID: <mailman.13279.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


----- Original Message -----
From: "Neil Morrison" <neilsmorr at HOTMAIL.COM>
To: <HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV>
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: REF.: I've Seen Everything...


> People actually buy empty Radio Shack Color Computer cartons, so ...!
>

Really?  I've got two here, and I sure need the money...

--Damon, who has fond memories of his Coco 3 and OS-9 Level II

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From hamiller at BTECHDESIGN.COM  Wed Dec 11 19:32:19 2002
From: hamiller at BTECHDESIGN.COM (H.A.Miller)
Date: Wed Dec 11 17:32:19 2002 MST
Subject: SB201 manual
Message-ID: <mailman.13280.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


I have found a manual for the above sb201. Thanks for your help. W5BWA

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From tlee at WCOIL.COM  Wed Dec 11 19:31:24 2002
From: tlee at WCOIL.COM (tlee)
Date: Wed Dec 11 17:31:24 2002 MST
Subject: FS: SB-104 and SB-101
Message-ID: <mailman.13281.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


FS:  Heathkit SB-104 in good shape.  Unit receives well but has transmit problems.  PA module in it is OK.  I am getting output on 75M through 20M but nothing above that.  May just need realigned.  I will through in an extra good PA module in this deal  $150 plus shipping.

FS:  Heathkit SB-101.  Front of radio says SB-102 but inside is an SB-101.  Never found a front plate to replace this one.  Receives and transmits OK.  May need minor alignment but seems to be pretty accurate.  Had trouble with bias pot when I got it but has been working OK.  $100 plus shipping.

I can send pictures of either one on request.

73  Ted N8GPQ

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From tlee at WCOIL.COM  Wed Dec 11 23:05:48 2002
From: tlee at WCOIL.COM (tlee)
Date: Wed Dec 11 21:05:48 2002 MST
Subject: WTB: SB-230 feedthrough Caps
Message-ID: <mailman.13282.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


I need the two feedthrough caps that are used in the grid circuit of the SB-230 amp.  Their value is .001.  Anyone have a set from a junker or a new set.   73 Ted N8GPQ

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From bcarling at CFL.RR.COM  Thu Dec 12 10:08:38 2002
From: bcarling at CFL.RR.COM (Brian Carling)
Date: Thu Dec 12 08:08:38 2002 MST
Subject: Empty Boxes
In-Reply-To: <001301c2a051$e25c7360$c67ba8c0@hntnwv.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <mailman.13283.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


OK but don't hold your breath waiting for it to reach $750 (grin!)

On 10 Dec 2002 at 8:41, Dwight D. Smith Sr. wrote:

> How about $75.00 for my empty HW-101 box?  Any takers?  No I think I
> will hold on to it, who knows, in 10 years it may be worth $750.00.
>
> Dwight
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From AA5QT at AOL.COM  Thu Dec 12 20:02:49 2002
From: AA5QT at AOL.COM (Gary Youney)
Date: Thu Dec 12 18:02:49 2002 MST
Subject: AT-1 Fix-up Question
Message-ID: <mailman.13284.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


I have a VERY nice AT-1 that I plan to offer up for sale soon.  It's the
grey-knobbed (later) version.  It's been sitting on my shelf for so long that
I've forgotten where I got it.

The other night I turned it on, plugged in a 40 meter crystal, and powered it
up (I know, I should have used a Variac).  Anyway, it came up fine, with
about 8 watts out.

My question is this:  It seems to have the original electrolytics- would the
unit be worth more to someone (at least sentimentally) with the original
caps, or with them replaced?  I'm asking because I could replace them in just
a few minutes, but I don't want to "destroy" a true collectors' piece.  I
know some of the antique radio guys go to great extents to preserve the
original look, but I'm not sure anymore about hams.  Personally, I'd rather
have it working and electrically perfect, even if not original, but what do I
know?

I'm not after maximum return (after all, it's just an AT-1), and I don't plan
to auction it.  I was just wondering about value vs. electrical restoration.

73,  Gary  K5QT

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From gzook at YAHOO.COM  Thu Dec 12 21:10:50 2002
From: gzook at YAHOO.COM (Glen Zook)
Date: Thu Dec 12 19:10:50 2002 MST
Subject: AT-1 Fix-up Question
In-Reply-To: <18.29b2e139.2b2a8bb9@aol.com>
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If the electrolytics are doing their job there is no
need to replace them.  I have a number of receivers
from the 1920s and 1930s in my antique / vintage radio
collection that have their original electrolytics and
are working fine.

Glen, K9STH


--- Gary Youney <AA5QT at AOL.COM> wrote:

It seems to have the original electrolytics- would the
unit be worth more to someone (at least sentimentally)
with the original caps, or with them replaced?

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From radiorepair at MINDSPRING.COM  Fri Dec 13 01:15:58 2002
From: radiorepair at MINDSPRING.COM (Malcolm Leonard)
Date: Thu Dec 12 23:15:58 2002 MST
Subject: AT-1 Fix-up Question
Message-ID: <mailman.13286.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Those of us who rebuild antique a radios replace the caps as a matterr of
course.A shorted cap can do a lot of circuit damage.
Malcolm Leonard
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glen Zook" <gzook at YAHOO.COM>
To: <HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV>
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: AT-1 Fix-up Question


> If the electrolytics are doing their job there is no
> need to replace them.  I have a number of receivers
> from the 1920s and 1930s in my antique / vintage radio
> collection that have their original electrolytics and
> are working fine.
>
> Glen, K9STH
>
>
> --- Gary Youney <AA5QT at AOL.COM> wrote:
>
> It seems to have the original electrolytics- would the
> unit be worth more to someone (at least sentimentally)
> with the original caps, or with them replaced?
>
> =====
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>
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From gzook at YAHOO.COM  Thu Dec 12 23:12:55 2002
From: gzook at YAHOO.COM (Glen Zook)
Date: Thu Dec 12 21:12:55 2002 MST
Subject: Test equipment for sale
Message-ID: <mailman.13287.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


All 3 of our daughters are married and gone and my
wife has let me take over the smallest bedroom for my
test bench (making more room in the garage for amateur
equipment!).  But, I really don't need like 5 audio
generators, 4 power supplies, 4 oscilloscopes, etc.,
these days. So, I have put some of my extra test
equipment for sale on http://home.attbi.com/~zcomco
3rd link from the bottom.

No, I am not getting rid of any of the service
monitors, at least not yet!

Wattmeter, audio oscillators, oscilloscopes, and a 12
volt power supply.

Glen, K9STH

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From wcmoore at IX.NETCOM.COM  Fri Dec 13 06:56:39 2002
From: wcmoore at IX.NETCOM.COM (John Q. Doe)
Date: Fri Dec 13 04:56:39 2002 MST
Subject: SB-230 Feedthru caps
Message-ID: <mailman.13288.1294703100.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


1000 pf (0.001 uF) are still readily available. Measure the dimensions on your
old one and check out  http://www.tusonix.com/filters.html  This firm produces
a lot of the same parts as the Old ERIE firm did in Pa.

Best Wishes

Chuck WD4HXG

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From W8EK at FDT.NET  Fri Dec 13 09:13:38 2002
From: W8EK at FDT.NET (Ken Simpson, W8EK)
Date: Fri Dec 13 07:13:38 2002 MST
Subject: Turner Hand Microphone FS
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For Sale:

Turner 355 C Hand Microphone
This mic is a high impedance ceramic mic.
It is complete with the Amphenol 2 pin connector,
and would be a "plug and play" for the HW-100,
HW-101, SB-100, SB-101, SB-102, SB-400, and
SB-401, and other rigs of that era.

Nice shape for $35 plus shipping from Florida.

Thanks.

73,

Ken, W8EK

Ken Simpson
E-mail to W8EK at fdt.net or W8EK at arrl.net
Voice Phone  (352) 732-8400

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From bcarling at CFL.RR.COM  Fri Dec 13 09:11:44 2002
From: bcarling at CFL.RR.COM (Brian Carling)
Date: Fri Dec 13 07:11:44 2002 MST
Subject: Heath "Remote LMO" For Sale
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FOR SALE:

Heath LMO / Remote VFO accessory for HW-100/101 and SB-100/101 series
transceivers.
Unusual - mounted in a small green case. Great for DXing with HF rig or use for
spare parts.  E-mail me for a picture.
Comes with cables for attachment to radio.
Will sell for $35.00 plus shipping

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From gzook at YAHOO.COM  Fri Dec 13 10:21:49 2002
From: gzook at YAHOO.COM (Glen Zook)
Date: Fri Dec 13 08:21:49 2002 MST
Subject: AT-1 Fix-up Question
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Well, I have well over 100 restored sets mainly from
the 1920s and 1930s and have only had to replace
electrolytics in a very small number!  However, your
mileage may vary!

Glen, K9STH


--- Malcolm Leonard <radiorepair at MINDSPRING.COM>
wrote:

Those of us who rebuild antique a radios replace the
caps as a matterr of course.A shorted cap can do a lot
of circuit damage.


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From wb9hgz at charlottesville.net  Fri Dec 13 10:58:37 2002
From: wb9hgz at charlottesville.net (Paul Dean)
Date: Fri Dec 13 08:58:37 2002 MST
Subject: AT-1 Fix-up Question
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My experience is similar to Glen's.  Just bring 'em up slow, with a
variac or by some other means.  What can I tell you, I'm cheap.  If I
can salvage them and save 50 bucks, what can I say?

Current project is a Heath DX-100, complete rebuild.  Removed the
filter caps and brought them up "manually" using a Heath IP-17 variable
HV supply.  After probably 30 years in some guy's garage, they came up
fine and held a charge.

There was a recent thread on the list discussing using the Heath (or
similar) cap checker to slowly bring up the voltage.  I've done that as
well.

Now, those wax covered paper bypass caps, they are another story!
 Replace 'em!

73,
Paul, wb9hgz

On Fri, 13 Dec 2002 07:21:49 -0800
 Glen Zook <gzook at YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> Well, I have well over 100 restored sets mainly from
> the 1920s and 1930s and have only had to replace
> electrolytics in a very small number!  However, your
> mileage may vary!
>
> Glen, K9STH
>
>
> --- Malcolm Leonard <radiorepair at MINDSPRING.COM>
> wrote:
>
> Those of us who rebuild antique a radios replace the
> caps as a matterr of course.A shorted cap can do a lot
> of circuit damage.
>
>
> =====
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>
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>
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From radiorepair at MINDSPRING.COM  Fri Dec 13 13:58:33 2002
From: radiorepair at MINDSPRING.COM (Malcolm Leonard)
Date: Fri Dec 13 11:58:33 2002 MST
Subject: AT-1 Fix-up Question
Message-ID: <mailman.13293.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


This is not a matter of debate or opinion any more than replacing the tires
on your family vehicle would be.
'Lytics dry out.They short.And when they go they sometimes take the power
transformer with them,not to mention rectifier tubes,reistors,and maybe the
choke for good measure.

You don't let them die first,and think about replacing them only after the
transformer begins to emit smoke.Not unless bungee jumping is your thing,or
you smoke three packs of cigarettes a day.or drive at 90 miles an hour as a
matter of course.
You repalce them as a common sense precautionary measure based on excellent
evidence for doing so,not just in the textbooks but in the real life
expereiences of countless set owners down through the years.

There are a number of restorers on the Antique Radio Forum with sad tales to
tell regarding set damage traced to popped caps.

You have every right to take such a risk,should you chose to do so.But it
would be a disservice to any newbie members of this list to let them think
that recapping is more of a luxury then a necessity.

That would a dangerously cavalier attitude and contrary to the best  advice.
we have to offer and exchange for our mutual benefit.

My experiences regarding caps in old radios is quite different from yours.
Thanks,
Malcolm, Leonard

----- Original Message -----
From: "Glen Zook" <gzook at yahoo.com>
To: "Malcolm Leonard" <radiorepair at MINDSPRING.COM>;
<HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV>
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 7:21 AM
Subject: Re: AT-1 Fix-up Question


> Well, I have well over 100 restored sets mainly from
> the 1920s and 1930s and have only had to replace
> electrolytics in a very small number!  However, your
> mileage may vary!
>
> Glen, K9STH
>
>
> --- Malcolm Leonard <radiorepair at MINDSPRING.COM>
> wrote:
>
> Those of us who rebuild antique a radios replace the
> caps as a matterr of course.A shorted cap can do a lot
> of circuit damage.
>
>
> =====
> Glen, K9STH
>
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>
> http://home.attbi.com/~k9sth
> http://home.attbi.com/~zcomco
>
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From rayfri at NETWORLD.COM  Fri Dec 13 11:19:50 2002
From: rayfri at NETWORLD.COM (rayfri)
Date: Fri Dec 13 09:19:50 2002 MST
Subject: AT-1 Fix-up Question
Message-ID: <mailman.13294.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


I also agree with Glenn and Paul.  A filter cap in circuit but not actively
filtering for
years because the rig hasnt been turned on isnt any different than a brand
new one
in the box that's been on the shelf for years.  I bought a number of can
type caps
for my Heath dx-100 years ago when I was working in a repair shop and a
number of
them are still brand new in the box, never been hooked up.  Would someone
say
that they probably arent any good anymore?
Ray  wa7itz



Paul Dean wrote:

> My experience is similar to Glen's.  Just bring 'em up slow, with a
> variac or by some other means.  What can I tell you, I'm cheap.  If I
> can salvage them and save 50 bucks, what can I say?
>
> Current project is a Heath DX-100, complete rebuild.  Removed the
> filter caps and brought them up "manually" using a Heath IP-17 variable
> HV supply.  After probably 30 years in some guy's garage, they came up
> fine and held a charge.
>
> There was a recent thread on the list discussing using the Heath (or
> similar) cap checker to slowly bring up the voltage.  I've done that as
> well.
>
> Now, those wax covered paper bypass caps, they are another story!
>  Replace 'em!
>
> 73,
> Paul, wb9hgz
>
> On Fri, 13 Dec 2002 07:21:49 -0800
>  Glen Zook <gzook at YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> > Well, I have well over 100 restored sets mainly from
> > the 1920s and 1930s and have only had to replace
> > electrolytics in a very small number!  However, your
> > mileage may vary!
> >
> > Glen, K9STH
> >
> >
> > --- Malcolm Leonard <radiorepair at MINDSPRING.COM>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Those of us who rebuild antique a radios replace the
> > caps as a matterr of course.A shorted cap can do a lot
> > of circuit damage.
> >
> >
> > =====
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> >
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> >
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From cseitz at ENTER.NET  Fri Dec 13 13:33:40 2002
From: cseitz at ENTER.NET (Charles Seitz)
Date: Fri Dec 13 11:33:40 2002 MST
Subject: Old Filter Caps
Message-ID: <mailman.13295.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Bill Fizette W2DGB (Prez of Antique
Wireless Association) carefully opens
and guts old filter capacitors.  He
replaces their innards with modern
parts and hides the incisions when he
solders them back into the radio.

Be careful with the stuff that you
remove.  I suspect it is
corrosive and rather messy.

              ---  CHAS  WA2DYA

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From neilsmorr at HOTMAIL.COM  Fri Dec 13 13:59:40 2002
From: neilsmorr at HOTMAIL.COM (Neil Morrison)
Date: Fri Dec 13 11:59:40 2002 MST
Subject: Old Filter Caps
Message-ID: <mailman.13296.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


It's not too corrosive, but if you've ever seen one explode, DAMN,
it's messy!

Neil

----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Seitz" <cseitz at ENTER.NET>


> Bill Fizette W2DGB (Prez of Antique
> Wireless Association) carefully opens
> and guts old filter capacitors.  He
> replaces their innards with modern
> parts and hides the incisions when he
> solders them back into the radio.
>
> Be careful with the stuff that you
> remove.  I suspect it is
> corrosive and rather messy.
>
>               ---  CHAS  WA2DYA

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From gzook at YAHOO.COM  Fri Dec 13 15:33:56 2002
From: gzook at YAHOO.COM (Glen Zook)
Date: Fri Dec 13 13:33:56 2002 MST
Subject: Old Filter Caps
In-Reply-To: <OE57cMjmKOeftXYg3qF00003614@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.13297.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


When I was in high school, a couple of the "problem
children" students would take the electrolytics from
old TV sets that had the two insulated leads from the
same end and plug them into an AC outlet.  It took
about 30 seconds to a minute on average, and the
capacitor would explode giving off a bad smell and
lots of smoke and debris.  They would do this in
school bathrooms, classrooms, etc.  We had a pretty
good idea as to just who was doing this, but they
never got caught.  However, over a couple of years I
suspect that they set off at least 50 capacitors
(about one per week).

Glen, K9STH


--- Neil Morrison <neilsmorr at HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:

It's not too corrosive, but if you've ever seen one
explode, DAMN, it's messy!


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From n7rk at COX.NET  Fri Dec 13 15:42:26 2002
From: n7rk at COX.NET (David Hollander)
Date: Fri Dec 13 13:42:26 2002 MST
Subject: AT-1 Fix-up Question
Message-ID: <mailman.13298.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Hi Gary - although I have many 1930's radio's running on their
originals, I generally replace them. I leave the original can mounted
but disconnected on the chassis and replace with modern axial lead parts
under the chassis. NOS can electrolytic are pretty pricey and may be no
better than what you are replacing if it is bad. You can generally pick
up a bunch of axial lead electrolytics for under $10 where an NOS
replacement if you can find one is in the $30-50 range. I have used this
method on dozens of antique broadcast radios and many boatanchors. I
have purchased the axial lead electrolytics for Antique Electronic
Supply and Frontier capacitor.

Good luck,

Dave N7RK

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From bcarling at CFL.RR.COM  Fri Dec 13 15:39:37 2002
From: bcarling at CFL.RR.COM (Brian Carling)
Date: Fri Dec 13 13:39:37 2002 MST
Subject: FS: Heathkit Sixer
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For sale: Heath Sixer AM transceiver for 6m band.

Case missing, otherwise complete with all tubes etc. and in fair condition. Supplied
with one crystal and a manual.

Will sell for $35.00 plus shipping

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From n7rat at PRIMENET.COM  Fri Dec 13 15:02:28 2002
From: n7rat at PRIMENET.COM (John Robinett)
Date: Fri Dec 13 13:02:28 2002 MST
Subject: HW-9 & P/S For Sale
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HW-9 and Power Supply for sale.
In excellent condition.
$450.00 plus shipping

N7RAT
John Robinett

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From clcampbl at TRAVERSE.COM  Fri Dec 13 18:10:54 2002
From: clcampbl at TRAVERSE.COM (Chris Campbell)
Date: Fri Dec 13 16:10:54 2002 MST
Subject: filter capacitors
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One solution is to add a fuse in the B+ power supply to protect the
transformer if the electrolytics fail.  Another is to keep the old cans
above the chassis for looks, and add new (almost always smaller)
electrolytics under the chassis for function.

Chris Campbell

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From eric_pierce at SYMPATICO.CA  Fri Dec 13 18:44:55 2002
From: eric_pierce at SYMPATICO.CA (Eric Pierce)
Date: Fri Dec 13 16:44:55 2002 MST
Subject: Old Filter Caps
In-Reply-To: <20021213203356.27034.qmail@web40205.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.13302.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


A fellow in my hi school electronics class (won't mention any names :-)
took one of those electrolytics with the orange cardboard case and bent
the wire leads down the sides where they would be insulated by the
cardboard.

Then he charged it up to about 250 volts with a lab supply, then
carefully picked it up without touching the leads, and headed over to
the cafeteria.

He would then spot an unsuspecting acquaintance and casually "toss" the
capacitor to him saying "look at what I found".

The catcher would contact both leads in catching it, get a big shock and
hilarity would ensue.

Only problem the trick only worked a couple of times, as word got around
pretty fast.


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From w0tut at COMCAST.NET  Fri Dec 13 20:04:43 2002
From: w0tut at COMCAST.NET (joe)
Date: Fri Dec 13 18:04:43 2002 MST
Subject: Old Filter Caps
Message-ID: <mailman.13303.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Very interesting story, but sounds smelly,messey and noisey!!It was good
CLEAN fun at Hayden Union High School (HUHS) about 1953-1954. A good
friend of mine (a WN0) devised a fuse blower i.e. an a.c. plug with wire
across the two terminals, shove it into a.c. socket and those round glass
screw in fuses would pop. Not sure what his final count was, but one day the
Physics teacher came up to us and said I know you guys are doing it, but
I cant catch you.  Well everything went back to normal suddenly. And that
teacher still alive and well today.....

73 de Joe w0tut
l
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To: <HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV>
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: Old Filter Caps


> When I was in high school, a couple of the "problem
> children" students would take the electrolytics from
> old TV sets that had the two insulated leads from the
> same end and plug them into an AC outlet.  It took
> about 30 seconds to a minute on average, and the
> capacitor would explode giving off a bad smell and
> lots of smoke and debris.  They would do this in
> school bathrooms, classrooms, etc.  We had a pretty
> good idea as to just who was doing this, but they
> never got caught.  However, over a couple of years I
> suspect that they set off at least 50 capacitors
> (about one per week).
>
> Glen, K9STH
>
>
> --- Neil Morrison <neilsmorr at HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> It's not too corrosive, but if you've ever seen one
> explode, DAMN, it's messy!
>
>
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From gzook at YAHOO.COM  Fri Dec 13 20:30:47 2002
From: gzook at YAHOO.COM (Glen Zook)
Date: Fri Dec 13 18:30:47 2002 MST
Subject: Old Filter Caps
In-Reply-To: <001901c2a30c$cd147440$0b513b44@panamb01.fl.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <mailman.13304.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


It was!  Especially the first two!  They were better
than any smoke bombs that were tried (most fizzled
without doing anything), by the same guys I suspect.

This was about 60 miles east of downtown Chicago
during the 1960 - 1962 time frame.

Glen, K9STH


--- joe <w0tut at comcast.net> wrote:

Very interesting story, but sounds smelly,messey and noisey!!

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From murray at MULTI-VOLTI.COM  Fri Dec 13 20:51:01 2002
From: murray at MULTI-VOLTI.COM (Multi-Volti)
Date: Fri Dec 13 18:51:01 2002 MST
Subject: Heathkit service tech pranks
Message-ID: <mailman.13305.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


At Heath factory service, sometimes techs would take some 2W carbon
composition resistors sized for a 'slow burn' at 120 vac, wire them to one
of those fused Heath AC plugs and plug it into a power-strip outlet on a new
tech's bench. The tech would turn on the main bench switch in the morning
and panic over the stench emanating from behind whatever he was
troubleshooting later that afternoon.

Nice, huh?

Murray


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To: <HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV>
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: Old Filter Caps


> When I was in high school, a couple of the "problem
> children" students would take the electrolytics from
> old TV sets that had the two insulated leads from the
> same end and plug them into an AC outlet.  It took
> about 30 seconds to a minute on average, and the
> capacitor would explode giving off a bad smell and
> lots of smoke and debris.  They would do this in
> school bathrooms, classrooms, etc.  We had a pretty
> good idea as to just who was doing this, but they
> never got caught.  However, over a couple of years I
> suspect that they set off at least 50 capacitors
> (about one per week).
>
> Glen, K9STH
>
>
> --- Neil Morrison <neilsmorr at HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> It's not too corrosive, but if you've ever seen one
> explode, DAMN, it's messy!
>
>
> =====
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>
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>
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From neilsmorr at HOTMAIL.COM  Fri Dec 13 21:56:01 2002
From: neilsmorr at HOTMAIL.COM (Neil Morrison)
Date: Fri Dec 13 19:56:01 2002 MST
Subject: filter capacitors
Message-ID: <mailman.13306.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Sometimes you can use a resistor as a fuse, which may be cheaper and
easier.

Neil

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> One solution is to add a fuse in the B+ power supply to protect the
> transformer if the electrolytics fail.  Another is to keep the old
cans
> above the chassis for looks, and add new (almost always smaller)
> electrolytics under the chassis for function.
>
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From rayfri at NETWORLD.COM  Fri Dec 13 22:28:06 2002
From: rayfri at NETWORLD.COM (rayfri)
Date: Fri Dec 13 20:28:06 2002 MST
Subject: Heathkit service tech pranks
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We used to do something similar at the Radio Shack service center I worked at
for a couple of years.    Only we added a little bit of a twist to it.....
we'd take a small wire wound resistor... the kind that wasnt encased in the
ceramic..
so you saw the wire wound around the body...   we'd wire it up to a DC power
supply behind the tech's panel.... and we'd add a small firecracker...   taped
so that the fuse was touching the wire of the resistor....   The resistor was of
such a value that it would glow for a few seconds before it would open...  and
the value had to be such that it would open before the circuit breaker would
open...
     Tech would turn on the DC supply...  the wire wound resistor would glow...
igniting the fuse on the firecracker...    a few seconds later....   BOOM.  as
the
firecracker went off....
     I remember the look on at least one techs face..... and the "expletive
deleted" that came out of his mouth......   priceless...
Not sure... but he may have almost needed to change his shorts....  HI HI



Multi-Volti wrote:

> At Heath factory service, sometimes techs would take some 2W carbon
> composition resistors sized for a 'slow burn' at 120 vac, wire them to one
> of those fused Heath AC plugs and plug it into a power-strip outlet on a new
> tech's bench. The tech would turn on the main bench switch in the morning
> and panic over the stench emanating from behind whatever he was
> troubleshooting later that afternoon.
>
> Nice, huh?
>
> Murray
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Glen Zook <gzook at YAHOO.COM>
> To: <HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV>
> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 3:33 PM
> Subject: Re: Old Filter Caps
>
> > When I was in high school, a couple of the "problem
> > children" students would take the electrolytics from
> > old TV sets that had the two insulated leads from the
> > same end and plug them into an AC outlet.  It took
> > about 30 seconds to a minute on average, and the
> > capacitor would explode giving off a bad smell and
> > lots of smoke and debris.  They would do this in
> > school bathrooms, classrooms, etc.  We had a pretty
> > good idea as to just who was doing this, but they
> > never got caught.  However, over a couple of years I
> > suspect that they set off at least 50 capacitors
> > (about one per week).
> >
> > Glen, K9STH
> >
> >
> > --- Neil Morrison <neilsmorr at HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
> >
> > It's not too corrosive, but if you've ever seen one
> > explode, DAMN, it's messy!
> >
> >
> > =====
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From rayfri at NETWORLD.COM  Fri Dec 13 22:32:06 2002
From: rayfri at NETWORLD.COM (rayfri)
Date: Fri Dec 13 20:32:06 2002 MST
Subject: Heathkit service tech pranks
Message-ID: <mailman.13308.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


I was the subject of a rather cruel joke when I first started working at the
Radio
Shack service center.   We all had TV monitors on our benches...  to watch TV
while we worked.... or to use with our Color Computers as monitors....
     Well... I came in to work one day.... powered up the bench... and my TV
screen was awash in a swirl of patterns and colors.    I tried all kinds of
things
to figure out what was wrong and to fix it...  Finally I decided the TV had bit
the dust... so I started to ask for a replacement when the techs next to me
busted
out laughing...
     Seems they had taken a rather large speaker magnet and hid it on the other
side of the side panel of my bench...  the magnet field would screw up the TV
picture every time it was placed in its normal position....  kind of like a
degaussing coil
type pattern....



Multi-Volti wrote:

> At Heath factory service, sometimes techs would take some 2W carbon
> composition resistors sized for a 'slow burn' at 120 vac, wire them to one
> of those fused Heath AC plugs and plug it into a power-strip outlet on a new
> tech's bench. The tech would turn on the main bench switch in the morning
> and panic over the stench emanating from behind whatever he was
> troubleshooting later that afternoon.
>
> Nice, huh?
>
> Murray
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Glen Zook <gzook at YAHOO.COM>
> To: <HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV>
> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 3:33 PM
> Subject: Re: Old Filter Caps
>
> > When I was in high school, a couple of the "problem
> > children" students would take the electrolytics from
> > old TV sets that had the two insulated leads from the
> > same end and plug them into an AC outlet.  It took
> > about 30 seconds to a minute on average, and the
> > capacitor would explode giving off a bad smell and
> > lots of smoke and debris.  They would do this in
> > school bathrooms, classrooms, etc.  We had a pretty
> > good idea as to just who was doing this, but they
> > never got caught.  However, over a couple of years I
> > suspect that they set off at least 50 capacitors
> > (about one per week).
> >
> > Glen, K9STH
> >
> >
> > --- Neil Morrison <neilsmorr at HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
> >
> > It's not too corrosive, but if you've ever seen one
> > explode, DAMN, it's messy!
> >
> >
> > =====
> > Glen, K9STH
> >
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> >
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> > http://home.attbi.com/~zcomco
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From tazzie at LOCALNET.COM  Fri Dec 13 23:57:28 2002
From: tazzie at LOCALNET.COM (Joseph W. Lutz)
Date: Fri Dec 13 21:57:28 2002 MST
Subject: SB-101 Parts - Anyone need?
Message-ID: <mailman.13309.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Hi,

I have come across parts that appear to be from a SB-101.  In fact I
have even found the chassis that has most of the rear apron hardware
on it; i.e., S2, Spare B, ALC, Phone Patch and REC ANT connectors. The
Antenna REC/COM switch; Ground Conn; Power ACC plug. Chassis still has
the 3-section variable capacitor [26-92] with the pulley [100-19]. The
capacitor bracket is there with the 250 pf vairiable capacitor [26-77]
mounted. RF choke [45-41] is there, final tank coil [40-548], 20pf
variable capacitor [26-24], one parasitic choke [45-53] w/node clip
still attached. The 10M coil is there - one end loose from the tank
coil rear solder lug. All in all, a lot of stuff @ the rear RF section.
Also many of the individual board. And the 85-132-1 Crystal board has
all the crystals still mounted.
If anyone needs anything for their SB-101 let me know and I will check
to see if I have it - or if someone wants all this 'mess' give me
an offer.  [I would like to hear from someone that really needs a
particular part for their 101 first - so it can possibly get back on
the air].
73,
Joe W7LPF

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From van at STARBAND.NET  Sat Dec 14 01:42:41 2002
From: van at STARBAND.NET (JOHN S ELECTRONIC REPAIR)
Date: Fri Dec 13 23:42:41 2002 MST
Subject: Filter caps
Message-ID: <mailman.13310.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


You take a cap and bend the leads back (IT MUST
BE A 450V CAP FOR BEST RESULTS) charge it up and
say here catch.


WA2IZB

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From DMallozzi at AOL.COM  Sat Dec 14 10:07:59 2002
From: DMallozzi at AOL.COM (Domenic M. Mallozzi)
Date: Sat Dec 14 08:07:59 2002 MST
Subject: Fwd: filter capacitors
Message-ID: <mailman.13311.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


In a message dated 12/14/02 2:51:19 AM !!!First Boot!!!,
clcampbl at TRAVERSE.COM writes:

Regarding Chris's suggestion of fusing the B+, this should only be done with
care, especially on an tube type amplifier. Common 3AG and consumer fuses and
their holders are not designed to break high voltage. In fact they may
continue to arc even when they are blown.

Various companies make high voltage fuses and their associated holders. They
are expensive and much larger that a typical consumer fuse. Also, typically
you need to buy them from a electrical or wholesale electronics supplier (you
won't find them at Radio Shack).

Just my two cents.

Dom
N1DM

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From tlee at WCOIL.COM  Sat Dec 14 09:51:35 2002
From: tlee at WCOIL.COM (tlee)
Date: Sat Dec 14 07:51:35 2002 MST
Subject: WTB: SB-230 relay
Message-ID: <mailman.13312.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Anybody have a spare relay for the Heathkit SB-230 amp.  Let me know and thanks    

73  Ted N8GPQ

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From kirk at 3RIVERS.NET  Fri Dec 13 22:18:33 2002
From: kirk at 3RIVERS.NET (kirk)
Date: Fri Dec 13 20:18:33 2002 MST
Subject: Heathkit service tech pranks
In-Reply-To: <004501c2a313$4261b180$b604a3d0@4373gtj2>
Message-ID: <mailman.13313.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


We strung together a couple of 3 foot pieces of shrink tubing as we had 3
foot lengths and then when someone was deep in concentration someone would
take a good drag on a cigarette and blow through the tubing which had been
carefully placed erarlier. Talk about power supplies being snapped off!
Makes me chuckle to think about it. Over 35 years ago.
:)

Kirk

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV]On Behalf Of Multi-Volti
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 6:51 PM
To: HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV
Subject: Heathkit service tech pranks


At Heath factory service, sometimes techs would take some 2W carbon
composition resistors sized for a 'slow burn' at 120 vac, wire them to one
of those fused Heath AC plugs and plug it into a power-strip outlet on a new
tech's bench. The tech would turn on the main bench switch in the morning
and panic over the stench emanating from behind whatever he was
troubleshooting later that afternoon.

Nice, huh?

Murray


----- Original Message -----
From: Glen Zook <gzook at YAHOO.COM>
To: <HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV>
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: Old Filter Caps


> When I was in high school, a couple of the "problem
> children" students would take the electrolytics from
> old TV sets that had the two insulated leads from the
> same end and plug them into an AC outlet.  It took
> about 30 seconds to a minute on average, and the
> capacitor would explode giving off a bad smell and
> lots of smoke and debris.  They would do this in
> school bathrooms, classrooms, etc.  We had a pretty
> good idea as to just who was doing this, but they
> never got caught.  However, over a couple of years I
> suspect that they set off at least 50 capacitors
> (about one per week).
>
> Glen, K9STH
>
>
> --- Neil Morrison <neilsmorr at HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> It's not too corrosive, but if you've ever seen one
> explode, DAMN, it's messy!
>
>
> =====
> Glen, K9STH
>
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>
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From kitt5 at EARTHLINK.NET  Sat Dec 14 11:41:14 2002
From: kitt5 at EARTHLINK.NET (Jerry Kitterman)
Date: Sat Dec 14 09:41:14 2002 MST
Subject: HW-12  Help
Message-ID: <mailman.13314.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


  Gentlemen,

   I'am trying to resurrect an old HW-12A. My trouble is or appears to be
the tube socket on V12 which is a 6EB8, the AF amp.  Usually when the set
is turned on I have no receive until I move the tube around in the socket.
I have tried 3 different tubes and they were all ok but still had the same
problem. I re-soldered the socket pins with no affect. It appears to be
clean in the pin holes and the socket appears not to have any cracks that
might let it move and go intermittent. It looks like the solder they used
on the main circuit board was very poor because each joint is very dirty
and when it is re-heated the old flux really rolls out of the joint and
it's hard to get it to take the new solder. Any other ideas??  Thanks es 73

 Jerry..W9CTB


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From jachnapko at JUNO.COM  Sat Dec 14 14:17:17 2002
From: jachnapko at JUNO.COM (Joseph R. Chnapko)
Date: Sat Dec 14 12:17:17 2002 MST
Subject: Fw: Re: Old Filter Caps
Message-ID: <mailman.13315.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


A sailor did the same thing at the navy electronics technician school at
Great Lakes, Ill.  HE ONLY DID IT ONE TIME.
Joe


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To: HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 18:44:55 -0500
Subject: Re: Old Filter Caps
Message-ID: <004601c2a301$a3f8edd0$c400a8c0 at w2kserver>

A fellow in my hi school electronics class (won't mention any names :-)
took one of those electrolytics with the orange cardboard case and bent
the wire leads down the sides where they would be insulated by the
cardboard.

Then he charged it up to about 250 volts with a lab supply, then
carefully picked it up without touching the leads, and headed over to
the cafeteria.

He would then spot an unsuspecting acquaintance and casually "toss" the
capacitor to him saying "look at what I found".

The catcher would contact both leads in catching it, get a big shock and
hilarity would ensue.

Only problem the trick only worked a couple of times, as word got around
pretty fast.


Eric VA3EP

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From mvjohn at SYMPATICO.CA  Sat Dec 14 22:07:48 2002
From: mvjohn at SYMPATICO.CA (Mark V. Johnson)
Date: Sat Dec 14 20:07:48 2002 MST
Subject: Heath VF-1 & Johnson Adventurer Transmitter
Message-ID: <mailman.13316.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


I would appreciate some advice from some of  our more "senior" Heath
Team mates... I'm trying to recreate a Novice stn I had back in the
early 70's. Johnson Adventurer Transmitter, Heath VF-1 VFO and
Hallicrafters SX-110.  It was a challenge getting this setup going but
it is and I  have  a "chirp" or frequency pull problem with the VF-1.
Like the Heath AT-1, the Johnson Adventurer provides power through a
rear accessory socket. Adventurer uses 6AG7 OSC, 807 final, 5U4 rectifier.

I originally set it up so that both the VFO and the first stage of the
transmitter were keyed as per the Johnson manual. Not at all good. I
then let the VFO "free run" and just keyed the first stage of the
transmitter. Better but still "pulls' or chirps. Crystal control is very
good, once I got a 6AG7 with enough inter electrode capacitance to
activate the crystals and oscillate. Pierce Osc. configuration.

VF-1 and Johnson transmitter have new Cap's, tubes, alignments, etc.
Voltages, wiring are good.

Question is, was some degree of "chirp" common in the "hay days" of the
50's when these set up's were common?? Is there a cure or am I rock
bound, or do I go ahead asking my QSO partners  to endure a bit of
chirp/pull??

Appreciate some advice and memories of the 50's..

TNX Team!

MV Johnson VE3DJU/VE3DDI

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From murray at MULTI-VOLTI.COM  Sat Dec 14 19:53:47 2002
From: murray at MULTI-VOLTI.COM (Multi-Volti)
Date: Sat Dec 14 17:53:47 2002 MST
Subject: WTB: SB-230 relay
Message-ID: <mailman.13317.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Time delay or antenna?


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Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 9:51 AM
Subject: WTB: SB-230 relay


Anybody have a spare relay for the Heathkit SB-230 amp.  Let me know and
thanks

73  Ted N8GPQ

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From gzook at YAHOO.COM  Sat Dec 14 22:18:25 2002
From: gzook at YAHOO.COM (Glen Zook)
Date: Sat Dec 14 20:18:25 2002 MST
Subject: Heath VF-1 & Johnson Adventurer Transmitter
In-Reply-To: <3DFBF204.30707@sympatico.ca>
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You might try changing the 0A2 regulator to an 0B2
which will drop the screen voltage from 150 volts to
105 volts.  Even better is to put two 0B2 regulator
tubes in series (with equalization resistors across
each) and feed the plate of the 6AU6 from the 210
volts regulated and the screen from the 105 volts
regulated.

Also, try a 6AH6 tube (direct replacement).  Heath
went to the 6AH6 in the Apache instead of the 6AU6 of
the VF-1 / DX-100 series.  That helped as well.

Of course, you definitely have to let the VFO run
constantly when transmitting.

Glen, K9STH


--- "Mark V. Johnson" <mvjohn at SYMPATICO.CA> wrote:

Is there a cure or am I rock bound

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From wittfa19 at EARTHLINK.NET  Sun Dec 15 03:05:20 2002
From: wittfa19 at EARTHLINK.NET (Fred Wittman)
Date: Sun Dec 15 01:05:20 2002 MST
Subject: Heathkit service tech pranks
Message-ID: <mailman.13319.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


At Fairchild we also tried the trick of blowing tobacco smoke through a tube
hidden behind what was being breadboarded, shoulda seen 'em jump...

Then there was the trick of Krylon sprayed on the power plug prongs - took a
newbee forever to get the gear working...

Enough...

Fred Wittman - KG6NYK

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Subject: Heathkit service tech pranks


> At Heath factory service, sometimes techs would take some 2W carbon
> composition resistors sized for a 'slow burn' at 120 vac, wire them to one
> of those fused Heath AC plugs and plug it into a power-strip outlet on a
new
> tech's bench. The tech would turn on the main bench switch in the morning
> and panic over the stench emanating from behind whatever he was
> troubleshooting later that afternoon.
>
> Nice, huh?
>
> Murray
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Glen Zook <gzook at YAHOO.COM>
> To: <HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV>
> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 3:33 PM
> Subject: Re: Old Filter Caps
>
>
> > When I was in high school, a couple of the "problem
> > children" students would take the electrolytics from
> > old TV sets that had the two insulated leads from the
> > same end and plug them into an AC outlet.  It took
> > about 30 seconds to a minute on average, and the
> > capacitor would explode giving off a bad smell and
> > lots of smoke and debris.  They would do this in
> > school bathrooms, classrooms, etc.  We had a pretty
> > good idea as to just who was doing this, but they
> > never got caught.  However, over a couple of years I
> > suspect that they set off at least 50 capacitors
> > (about one per week).
> >
> > Glen, K9STH
> >
> >
> > --- Neil Morrison <neilsmorr at HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
> >
> > It's not too corrosive, but if you've ever seen one
> > explode, DAMN, it's messy!
> >
> >
> > =====
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> >
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From tlee at WCOIL.COM  Sun Dec 15 08:24:47 2002
From: tlee at WCOIL.COM (tlee)
Date: Sun Dec 15 06:24:47 2002 MST
Subject: WTB: SB-230 relay
Message-ID: <mailman.13320.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Antenna

73  Ted N8GPQ

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> Time delay or antenna?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: tlee <tlee at WCOIL.COM>
> To: <HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV>
> Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 9:51 AM
> Subject: WTB: SB-230 relay
>
>
> Anybody have a spare relay for the Heathkit SB-230 amp.  Let me know and
> thanks
>
> 73  Ted N8GPQ
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From chuckcwu at EARTHLINK.NET  Sat Dec 14 22:30:52 2002
From: chuckcwu at EARTHLINK.NET (Chuck Anderson)
Date: Sat Dec 14 20:30:52 2002 MST
Subject: CO 1015 Ignition Analyzer
Message-ID: <mailman.13321.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


I have a CO 1015 Igniton Analyzer, but I'm missing the test cable. does
anyone have one they would sell, or know where I might get one?

Thanks

Chuck Anderson

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From lclark at CSU.ORG  Sun Dec 15 04:56:36 2002
From: lclark at CSU.ORG (Larry Clark)
Date: Sun Dec 15 02:56:36 2002 MST
Subject: AT-1 Fix-up Question
Message-ID: <mailman.13322.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


I think you guys are all missing the point here.  The question isn't whether the caps need to be replaced, but rather
should Gary try to second guess the propective owner.  Who knows?  He may prefer to have the rig completely original,
never fire it up and sit it on a shelf for display only.  As noted, it would only take a few minutes to do.  Why not let the
new owner decide?

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From rsahlen at VOICENET.COM  Sun Dec 15 10:52:21 2002
From: rsahlen at VOICENET.COM (Rich Sahlender)
Date: Sun Dec 15 08:52:21 2002 MST
Subject: Heath VF-1 & Johnson Adventurer Transmitter
In-Reply-To: <3DFBF204.30707@sympatico.ca>
Message-ID: <mailman.13323.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


I had similar symptoms with a DX-40 and a VF-1 a few years back.
Turned out the power transformer in the DX-40 was getting weak
and the extra current drawn by the VF-1 caused just enough of a
voltage drop to produce chirp. A replacement transformer from
Peter Dahl cured the problem for me.

I still use the DX-40/VF-1 every now and then. The VF-1 uses the
6au6 and the 0a2 and is not left running. It is keyed in the typical
way via the DX-40 accessory plug.

73 de Rich WA3WLH

On Sat, Dec 14, 2002 at 10:07:48PM -0500, Mark V. Johnson wrote:
> I would appreciate some advice from some of  our more "senior" Heath
> Team mates... I'm trying to recreate a Novice stn I had back in the
> early 70's. Johnson Adventurer Transmitter, Heath VF-1 VFO and
> Hallicrafters SX-110.  It was a challenge getting this setup going but
> it is and I  have  a "chirp" or frequency pull problem with the VF-1.
> Like the Heath AT-1, the Johnson Adventurer provides power through a
> rear accessory socket. Adventurer uses 6AG7 OSC, 807 final, 5U4 rectifier.
>
> I originally set it up so that both the VFO and the first stage of the
> transmitter were keyed as per the Johnson manual. Not at all good. I
> then let the VFO "free run" and just keyed the first stage of the
> transmitter. Better but still "pulls' or chirps. Crystal control is very
> good, once I got a 6AG7 with enough inter electrode capacitance to
> activate the crystals and oscillate. Pierce Osc. configuration.
>
> VF-1 and Johnson transmitter have new Cap's, tubes, alignments, etc.
> Voltages, wiring are good.
>
> Question is, was some degree of "chirp" common in the "hay days" of the
> 50's when these set up's were common?? Is there a cure or am I rock
> bound, or do I go ahead asking my QSO partners  to endure a bit of
> chirp/pull??
>
> Appreciate some advice and memories of the 50's..
>
> TNX Team!
>
> MV Johnson VE3DJU/VE3DDI

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From w0akg at AEROSURF.NET  Sun Dec 15 12:31:28 2002
From: w0akg at AEROSURF.NET (Martin Tippin)
Date: Sun Dec 15 10:31:28 2002 MST
Subject: Mercury Tube Tester
Message-ID: <mailman.13324.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Looking for the tube manual for the Mercury model-102. Thanks
Martin L Tippin W?AKG
140 Monarch Lane
Branson, Mo 65616

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From bcarling at CFL.RR.COM  Sun Dec 15 14:44:58 2002
From: bcarling at CFL.RR.COM (Brian Carling)
Date: Sun Dec 15 12:44:58 2002 MST
Subject: Heath HM-2102
Message-ID: <mailman.13325.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


For sale:

Heathkit HM-2102 SWR meter. Complete and in working condition.
Original knobs. Available for $15.00

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From ke4mg at YAHOO.COM  Sun Dec 15 17:24:20 2002
From: ke4mg at YAHOO.COM (ken kuzma)
Date: Sun Dec 15 15:24:20 2002 MST
Subject: FS:Heathkit Twoer HW-30
Message-ID: <mailman.13326.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Nice looking Twer with 1 xtal and power cord . Partial
manual copy. No microphone . Unmodified. cand send
pictures it interested. 45.00 plus shipping.

ken
ke4mg at yahoo.com

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From mvjohn at SYMPATICO.CA  Sun Dec 15 18:40:13 2002
From: mvjohn at SYMPATICO.CA (Mark V. Johnson)
Date: Sun Dec 15 16:40:13 2002 MST
Subject: Manuals  & Mic Connectors for sale
Message-ID: <mailman.13327.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Hello Heath team;
> I have the following manuals for sale. These are surplus to my needs.
> Prices include mailing to Canada and US.
>
> HD-1416H Code Oscillator. Blue & Gray  Colour , No check marks. - $8.00US
>
> SB- 630 Station Console. No check marks. - $15.00US
>
> HM- 2102 VHF Wattmeter. Complete. - $10.00US
>
> SB-102 Transceiver.  Good shape. No LARGE schematic. $20.00US
>
> SB- 102 Transceiver. Good shape, no check marks. No LARGE schematic.
> $22.00US

Still have NOS Amphenol 2 pin Mic connectors (includes set screw and coil spring)for sale. First one is $10.00 and any additonal are $6.00US each. Price includes mailing in Cda and US. >
> Thanks!

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From Wb2fou at AOL.COM  Sun Dec 15 21:09:47 2002
From: Wb2fou at AOL.COM (Marty Wb2Fou)
Date: Sun Dec 15 19:09:47 2002 MST
Subject: total electronics
Message-ID: <mailman.13328.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


I can not get total electronics web site . having problems . is anyone else
having this same problem ??

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From rsahlen at VOICENET.COM  Sun Dec 15 23:51:49 2002
From: rsahlen at VOICENET.COM (Rich Sahlender)
Date: Sun Dec 15 21:51:49 2002 MST
Subject: Apache High Plate Current
Message-ID: <mailman.13329.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


After several years on the shelf I finally got around to
working on my TX-1. Won't bore you all with the little
details of the clean up but found a nearly new pair of
6146B's in the final cage which I promptly pulled and
replaced with 6146's. Didn't have time to neutralize
them yet but tried loading into a dummy load to see how
it acted.

I have more than enough grid drive on 80m which "looks"
steady by the meter and just about the recommended 6ma
on 10m but it randomly moves plus/minus about 1/2ma
which in my experience is a pretty clear sign it needs
to be neutralized. What is unusual to me though is the
high plate current. Manual recommends 250ma.

On 80m with no loading and 6ma grid drive the plate
dips at 300-350ma and only about 70 watts out. On 40m
I have to back the grid drive way down or the plate
current goes off scale. About 1ma grid drive with a
little loading and the plate dips to 250ma with only
50 watts out. At 3ma I get about 100 watts out but the
plate current is pushing 400-450ma...

Would finals in need of neutralization also cause
symptoms like these? I've never seen it quite like
this... or should I be looking for bad rf bypass caps
and/or meter shunts etc?

tnx de Rich WA3WLH

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From pmarkavage at JUNO.COM  Mon Dec 16 11:14:48 2002
From: pmarkavage at JUNO.COM (Peter A Markavage)
Date: Mon Dec 16 09:14:48 2002 MST
Subject: Apache High Plate Current
Message-ID: <mailman.13330.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Have you checked and/or adjusted the clamp circuit as per the setup in
the manual? Did you check the .1 ohm meter resistor for the plate
current? Besides neutralization issues, high or runaway plate current may
be a function of the clamp tube circuit.
Pete, CWA

On Sun, 15 Dec 2002 23:51:49 -0500 Rich Sahlender <rsahlen at VOICENET.COM>
writes:
> After several years on the shelf I finally got around to
> working on my TX-1. Won't bore you all with the little
> details of the clean up but found a nearly new pair of
> 6146B's in the final cage which I promptly pulled and
> replaced with 6146's. Didn't have time to neutralize
> them yet but tried loading into a dummy load to see how
> it acted.
>
> I have more than enough grid drive on 80m which "looks"
> steady by the meter and just about the recommended 6ma
> on 10m but it randomly moves plus/minus about 1/2ma
> which in my experience is a pretty clear sign it needs
> to be neutralized. What is unusual to me though is the
> high plate current. Manual recommends 250ma.
>
> On 80m with no loading and 6ma grid drive the plate
> dips at 300-350ma and only about 70 watts out. On 40m
> I have to back the grid drive way down or the plate
> current goes off scale. About 1ma grid drive with a
> little loading and the plate dips to 250ma with only
> 50 watts out. At 3ma I get about 100 watts out but the
> plate current is pushing 400-450ma...
>
> Would finals in need of neutralization also cause
> symptoms like these? I've never seen it quite like
> this... or should I be looking for bad rf bypass caps
> and/or meter shunts etc?
>
> tnx de Rich WA3WLH
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From pmarkavage at JUNO.COM  Mon Dec 16 11:22:09 2002
From: pmarkavage at JUNO.COM (Peter A Markavage)
Date: Mon Dec 16 09:22:09 2002 MST
Subject: total electronics
Message-ID: <mailman.13331.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Works for me.

http://www.nctotalelectronics.com/

Pete, wa2cwa

On Sun, 15 Dec 2002 21:09:47 EST Marty Wb2Fou <Wb2fou at AOL.COM> writes:
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> anyone else
> having this same problem ??
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From sdhudson at REEDBUSINESS.COM  Mon Dec 16 10:25:54 2002
From: sdhudson at REEDBUSINESS.COM (Hudson, Steve (RBI-US RCD))
Date: Mon Dec 16 08:25:54 2002 MST
Subject: Unbuilt/never built  GD1702 FS
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Unbuilt/never built GD1702 "Vacation/Home Sentry" FS. $50 plus shipping from
30004.

Thanks,

Steve AA4BW
sdhudson at reedbusiness.com

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From sheltonm at PHYSICS.UNC.EDU  Mon Dec 16 12:27:22 2002
From: sheltonm at PHYSICS.UNC.EDU (Mike Shelton)
Date: Mon Dec 16 10:27:22 2002 MST
Subject: Website's
Message-ID: <mailman.13333.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Total Electronics has two websites and both are up:
http://www.nctotalelectronics.com
http://www.angelfire.com/nc/totalelectronics

Some additions will be made over the holidays and we will close from
DEC-20th till JAN-6th, Thanks and Happy Holidays!!
--
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From bbc39668 at YAHOO.COM  Mon Dec 16 13:12:58 2002
From: bbc39668 at YAHOO.COM (Joe Y)
Date: Mon Dec 16 11:12:58 2002 MST
Subject: Heath cabinet paint
Message-ID: <mailman.13334.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Hello,
I was wondering if there is an "off the shelf paint"
that is close in color to the paint used on the heath
HX 10 and RX 1. I believe I recall someone mentioning
a color from krylon but am not positive.
I'm not sure I am ready to go through the hassle and
expense of ordering the exact color from NC, close in
color is fine for me.
Thanks for any help.
joe

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From gzook at YAHOO.COM  Mon Dec 16 13:23:51 2002
From: gzook at YAHOO.COM (Glen Zook)
Date: Mon Dec 16 11:23:51 2002 MST
Subject: Cheyenne Dials and Overlays
Message-ID: <mailman.13335.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


I have just completed the new dial and dial overlay
for the Heathkit Cheyenne (MT-1) transmitter.  These
are not scans, but are completely new computer
generated items.  I am presently working on the dial
and overlay for the Comanche (MR-1).

When the dial drum for the HG-10 VFO gets here
(someone is sending me one), I will do the same thing
for the HG-10.

The overlays and drums that I presently have for the
Mohawk and the Apache are in process of being redone.
Those were a combination of scan + computer graphics.
The new ones will be completely computer generated.

You can make a new dial drum for any of these items by
using a PVC "tail piece" that is 1.5 inches in
diameter from any home-improvement center.  The one
thing is that the new dials are completely opaque and
not slightly translucent as were the originals.

Both the overlay and complete dial drums are
available.

Right now, the price for the Cheyenne dials (and will
be the same for the Comanche in a few days) is

Overlay:  $18.50 CONUS, $19.50 Canada, $20.03 Texas.

Drum:  $25.00 CONUS, $27.00 Canada, $27.06 Texas.

You can get the information on the Mohawk and Apache
drums at http://home.attbi.com/~zcomco

Remember, it is not the price of the materials used in
the creation of these dials, but it is all the labor
that went into the artwork.

Glen, K9STH

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From N7BH at AOL.COM  Mon Dec 16 13:49:04 2002
From: N7BH at AOL.COM (Robert Schlegel)
Date: Mon Dec 16 11:49:04 2002 MST
Subject: SB600 manual trade
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Trade a SB600 manual in excellent condition for a SB604 manual.

Bob  N7BH

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From rsahlen at VOICENET.COM  Mon Dec 16 14:41:47 2002
From: rsahlen at VOICENET.COM (Rich Sahlender)
Date: Mon Dec 16 12:41:47 2002 MST
Subject: Apache High Plate Current
In-Reply-To: <20021216.111448.-461111.0.pmarkavage@juno.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.13337.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


I did adjust the clamp circuit, I did not check anything in the
metering circuits. After cleaning/working it all weekend I only
did basic voltage checks after slow power up with variac to make
sure B+ and bias was reasonable in a few key places. I ran out
of weekend before I could do any detailed measurements. I'll
continue next weekend but thought I'd ask here and plan my work
based on responses from the list.

tnx de Rich WA3WLH

On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 11:14:48AM -0500, Peter A Markavage wrote:
> Have you checked and/or adjusted the clamp circuit as per the setup in
> the manual? Did you check the .1 ohm meter resistor for the plate
> current? Besides neutralization issues, high or runaway plate current may
> be a function of the clamp tube circuit.
> Pete, CWA
>
> On Sun, 15 Dec 2002 23:51:49 -0500 Rich Sahlender <rsahlen at VOICENET.COM>
> writes:
> > After several years on the shelf I finally got around to
> > working on my TX-1. Won't bore you all with the little
> > details of the clean up but found a nearly new pair of
> > 6146B's in the final cage which I promptly pulled and
> > replaced with 6146's. Didn't have time to neutralize
> > them yet but tried loading into a dummy load to see how
> > it acted.
> >
> > I have more than enough grid drive on 80m which "looks"
> > steady by the meter and just about the recommended 6ma
> > on 10m but it randomly moves plus/minus about 1/2ma
> > which in my experience is a pretty clear sign it needs
> > to be neutralized. What is unusual to me though is the
> > high plate current. Manual recommends 250ma.
> >
> > On 80m with no loading and 6ma grid drive the plate
> > dips at 300-350ma and only about 70 watts out. On 40m
> > I have to back the grid drive way down or the plate
> > current goes off scale. About 1ma grid drive with a
> > little loading and the plate dips to 250ma with only
> > 50 watts out. At 3ma I get about 100 watts out but the
> > plate current is pushing 400-450ma...
> >
> > Would finals in need of neutralization also cause
> > symptoms like these? I've never seen it quite like
> > this... or should I be looking for bad rf bypass caps
> > and/or meter shunts etc?
> >
> > tnx de Rich WA3WLH
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From w4gbw at BREVARD.NET  Mon Dec 16 17:44:36 2002
From: w4gbw at BREVARD.NET (Charles W. Morehouse)
Date: Mon Dec 16 15:44:36 2002 MST
Subject: Heath cabinet paint
Message-ID: <mailman.13338.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Joe,
There is no hassle in ordering paint from Mike Shelton of Total
Electronics. Mike is a fine fellow, has an excellent line of paints and
is an old friend. He has the paint you need. Check his posting for the
web sites. Happy Holidays.
Wayne;
W4GBW

Joe Y wrote:

>Hello,
>I was wondering if there is an "off the shelf paint"
>that is close in color to the paint used on the heath
>HX 10 and RX 1. I believe I recall someone mentioning
>a color from krylon but am not positive.
>I'm not sure I am ready to go through the hassle and
>expense of ordering the exact color from NC, close in
>color is fine for me.
>Thanks for any help.
>joe
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From mgrandy at TELUS.NET  Mon Dec 16 20:45:18 2002
From: mgrandy at TELUS.NET (Murray Grandy)
Date: Mon Dec 16 18:45:18 2002 MST
Subject: Heathkit HW-2-4, HW-2-P
Message-ID: <mailman.13339.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Just wondering if someone on the list can tell me anything about subject
radios. I just discovered them in my 1989 xmas catalog and I'm thinking I
might like to own one. I was unaware of these Heath hand held radios until
now.
Murray
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From Emile_Imberman at 3COM.COM  Mon Dec 16 16:09:59 2002
From: Emile_Imberman at 3COM.COM (Emile Imberman)
Date: Mon Dec 16 14:09:59 2002 MST
Subject: For Sale
Message-ID: <mailman.13340.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


I have a 3B301/SB401 for Sale.   If anyone is interested, please contact me
on my other EMAIL.     W5EMI at arrl.net.

                                                        Emile

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From rudita5 at HOTMAIL.COM  Mon Dec 16 21:12:05 2002
From: rudita5 at HOTMAIL.COM (tony delatejera)
Date: Mon Dec 16 19:12:05 2002 MST
Subject: the new ampkeyer for vintage amps
Message-ID: <mailman.13341.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


hello,i am trying to find a url about an amplifier keyer i did see here,but
have had not luck,i am very curios to see it and buy one,i have a SB 200
Which i want to interface with a yaesu 847,i smoked my electronic switching
on the 847,so this time i need to step down the amps and change the ac to dc
as to make it compatible w.the sb200 thanks to all  kb9pil   tony



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From gzook at YAHOO.COM  Mon Dec 16 22:23:32 2002
From: gzook at YAHOO.COM (Glen Zook)
Date: Mon Dec 16 20:23:32 2002 MST
Subject: Heath cabinet paint
In-Reply-To: <20021216181258.52875.qmail@web21303.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.13342.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Check the article on "Faux Heath Paints" on either of
my websites that are at the end of this message.

Glen, K9STH


--- Joe Y <bbc39668 at YAHOO.COM> wrote:

I was wondering if there is an "off the shelf paint"
that is close in color to the paint used on the heath
HX 10 and RX 1. I believe I recall someone mentioning
a color from krylon but am not positive.


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From gzook at YAHOO.COM  Mon Dec 16 23:13:35 2002
From: gzook at YAHOO.COM (Glen Zook)
Date: Mon Dec 16 21:13:35 2002 MST
Subject: Dials and Overlays
Message-ID: <mailman.13343.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


I have now gotten the Comanche overlay artwork done.
Also, I have redone the Mohawk and Apache overlys
using completely computer generated artwork instead of
the old part scan, part computer.  The VF-1 / DX-100
series VFO dial is still a mixture of scan and
computer.  I am going to see if I can redo this using
computer generated graphics which will produce a
slightly better product (I bought a new graphics
program about a month ago and am trying to learn how
to use it - having some luck since the new slide-rule
type dials!).

The HG-10 dial has not arrived as of today.  When it
gets here, I can make the artwork for the overlay and
complete drum assembly.

Remember, with the overlay, the drum is no longer
slightly translucent, but is opaque.  You can make
your own drum using 1.5 inch diameter "tail piece" PVC
from a home improvement center for $2 or less.  You do
have to be careful to get it cut to the correct
dimension and to cut it "square".  If you don't want
to make your own, contact me about complete drum
assemblies.

I am going to try to get up some new photos, etc., on
the zcomco website in the next day or so to show the
overlays, drums, etc.

Look at the website or E-Mail me for information.

Thanks

Glen, K9STH

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From Ka9dzr at AOL.COM  Tue Dec 17 00:29:51 2002
From: Ka9dzr at AOL.COM (Dennis Ka9Dzr)
Date: Mon Dec 16 22:29:51 2002 MST
Subject: help
Message-ID: <mailman.13344.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


 i have a seneca vhf-1  the dail cord on the final pully came off. how do i
re-string the final pully. or can i use belt type drive like the one use on
the
 sb-102. thanks foe any help dennis

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From brianmwood at EMAIL.MSN.COM  Tue Dec 17 00:34:47 2002
From: brianmwood at EMAIL.MSN.COM (Brian Wood)
Date: Mon Dec 16 22:34:47 2002 MST
Subject: Apache High Plate Current
In-Reply-To: <MGEJKLKIHNDNNBGFOLHIGEACDBAA.brianmwood@email.msn.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.13345.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Rich,

After thinking I had fixed my grid current flicker by replacing the 47 pf
capacitor that serves as the load for the final grids, I think I have now
found that the flickering is related to the ground wire that runs along the
side of the bracket-mounted driver tuning cap in the DX-100. If the Apache
is built in a similar fashion, you might watch out for capacitive coupling
from your driver tube to nearby grounds. The driver in a DX-100 is a 5763.
Course, it could also be a bad contact in the 5763 tube socket. The
flickering seems to stop when I angle the tube away from the ground wire,
which of course affects the connectivity to the socket too.

73,

Brian, W0DZ

-----Original Message-----
From: Heathkit Owners and Collectors List
[mailto:HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV]On Behalf Of Rich Sahlender
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2002 9:52 PM
To: HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV
Subject: Apache High Plate Current


After several years on the shelf I finally got around to
working on my TX-1. Won't bore you all with the little
details of the clean up but found a nearly new pair of
6146B's in the final cage which I promptly pulled and
replaced with 6146's. Didn't have time to neutralize
them yet but tried loading into a dummy load to see how
it acted.

I have more than enough grid drive on 80m which "looks"
steady by the meter and just about the recommended 6ma
on 10m but it randomly moves plus/minus about 1/2ma
which in my experience is a pretty clear sign it needs
to be neutralized. What is unusual to me though is the
high plate current. Manual recommends 250ma.

On 80m with no loading and 6ma grid drive the plate
dips at 300-350ma and only about 70 watts out. On 40m
I have to back the grid drive way down or the plate
current goes off scale. About 1ma grid drive with a
little loading and the plate dips to 250ma with only
50 watts out. At 3ma I get about 100 watts out but the
plate current is pushing 400-450ma...

Would finals in need of neutralization also cause
symptoms like these? I've never seen it quite like
this... or should I be looking for bad rf bypass caps
and/or meter shunts etc?

tnx de Rich WA3WLH

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From ke4mg at YAHOO.COM  Tue Dec 17 04:28:09 2002
From: ke4mg at YAHOO.COM (ken kuzma)
Date: Tue Dec 17 02:28:09 2002 MST
Subject: FS:Heathkit TC-2 Tube Checker
Message-ID: <mailman.13346.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Working TC-2 Tube checker . Tube index roll like new.
This unit has the wooden case . Picture at:
http://home1.gte.net/res096zp/auctions/heathtube.jpg

25.00 plus shipping Manual included !!

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From ke4mg at YAHOO.COM  Tue Dec 17 06:05:21 2002
From: ke4mg at YAHOO.COM (ken kuzma)
Date: Tue Dec 17 04:05:21 2002 MST
Subject: FS: Heathkit IG-5282 and IG-5280
Message-ID: <mailman.13347.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


I have two units IG-5280 RF Generator and IG-5282
Audio Generator. Both in Very good Condition with
manuals . Asking 25.00 plus shipping each.

Pictures at:
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http://home1.gte.net/res096zp/heathaudio.jpg

Shipping will be from zip 33813



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From gswynar at DURHAM.NET  Tue Dec 17 08:24:52 2002
From: gswynar at DURHAM.NET (Eddy Swynar)
Date: Tue Dec 17 06:24:52 2002 MST
Subject: Heathkit SB-610 Problem SOLVED...
Message-ID: <mailman.13348.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Seasons Greetings Fellow Heathniks...

Last night I ran into a situation with my beloved SB-610 that appeared quite
vexing initially,but which ultimately was solved. I'm sharing it with you to
file away mentally for possible future consideration "...just in case".

Delete this message if you're already a 'scope pro! Here goes:

PROBLEM---

The trace on my SB-610 suddenly appeared as a diffused fuzzy ball (about the
diameter of lead pencil) in the trapezoid position. Likewise, the normally
sharp line with the scope in the envelope pattern position was dim, wide,
and fuzzy. When the sweep speed was cranked low,  instead of a normally
semi-rippling line, I could only see 4 or 5 1/4" tall vertical fuzzy lines
evenly spaced across the screen.

I could also just detect a trace of an acrid odour descending the stairs
(the rig was warming up downstairs), as if something had "smoked".

TROUBLE-SHOOTING---

Read the manual BEFORE you do anything! The exact first step in the
troubleshooting guide was the key: in my instance, the resistance was only
several thousands of ohms, a far cry from 5 megohms!

I de-solded the transformer's blue & yellow wires from their respective
moorings on the tie strips, & measured the a.c. voltage from them to confirm
that the "iron" hadn't expired...WHEW! It was well in excess of 600 vac.
What a relief THAT was!

REPAIRING THE THING---

The output voltage at the juncture of R605 & C606 was less than 300 volts...

Time to replace the rectifiers, I thought. I've learned the hard way that it
pays to check the continuity of solid state rectifiers both ways BEFORE
soldering them into position: I do this with the tone continuity position of
my Radio shack FETVOM. Anyway, diodes D5 & D6 are SILENIUM units, & I
automatically replaced them with back-to-back pairs of modern
run-of-the-mill I kv/1 ampere silicon units.

The fuzzy pattern remained.

I next noted that while resistor R605 was SUPPOSED to be a bright banded
orange-orange-yellow affair, it appeared almost all black/brown. EUREKA! l
removed the offensive part, & noted that it was, indeed, semi-charred, &
displayed a resistance of several megohms. A new replacement was soldered in
its place, & the power activated...

After about 30 seconds, smoke poured off the body of the poor thing, & R605
self-destructed yet again. What next?

I replaced R605 a second time, AND snipped off the lead from C606 "just in
case"---I fired-up the scope, & a beautifully clear pattern returned to the
screen! It was pin-point sharp in the trapezoid pattern, too. And best of
all, the resistor survived a 30 minute survival test unscathed.

FINAL SOLUTION---

My C606 displayed a RESISTANCE of several thousand ohms. I replaced it with
a junk box 0.1 ufd. 1600 vdc capacitor on-hand, & all is well again...in
fact, the trace is brighter & sharper than it's ever been!

Should anything similar crop up in the future, my suspicions will fall upon
that bank of similar black capacitors alongside it in the SB-610. Perhaps
just as in receivers, capacitors in scopes should be replaced every twenty
years or so, too! Hi Hi.

Anyway, I'm glad it's back on line & working fine. The experience also
taught me that it's time to replace all of the tubes in my '610---with one
exception, they all tested in the "red" zone of my Stark tube tester! It's
amazing the scope works as well as it does, testament to the longevity of
"no frills" engineering, I guess!

~73~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ

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From wb8baf at VOYAGER.NET  Tue Dec 17 09:59:31 2002
From: wb8baf at VOYAGER.NET (Dave Leisman)
Date: Tue Dec 17 07:59:31 2002 MST
Subject: SB-110a
Message-ID: <mailman.13349.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


I need some help with this "project"  I have an SB-110a and the
receiver is great, but I am having problems with the transmitter
section.  I can get only milliwatts out from the thing.  New driver
tube and 2 brand new 6146 finals but still nothing.  I have gone
through the full tune up procedure, as stated in the manual several
times,all with the same result.

I know I at least get some signal out because I can transmit into a
dummy load and easily hear the signal on a second receiver located 30
yards away. And I know the LMO works as well.

I fear that the bandpass transformers located ahead of the driver tube
have been turned too far out of synch and need to be "homed" so the
thing can be properly tuned.  Turning the final tune control, the
preselector and the load control do have some effect but with such
nominal power output it's hard to judge exactly how much effect.

In every other way the rig is great.  I use an HP-23a as power supply.
So, any suggections would be appreciated.  This is a great rig and I
really want the thing up and running.

Thanks,

Dave, W8QW

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From n0czv at WILLARD-OH.COM  Tue Dec 17 10:53:18 2002
From: n0czv at WILLARD-OH.COM (Steve Garwood)
Date: Tue Dec 17 08:53:18 2002 MST
Subject: the new ampkeyer for vintage amps
Message-ID: <mailman.13350.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Tony,

Check out www.theheathkitshop.com 

You will find the ampkeyer on Mike's web site...

Steve

----- Original Message -----
From: tony delatejera
Sent: 12/16/2002 9:12:05 PM
To: HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV
Subject: the new ampkeyer for vintage amps

> hello,i am trying to find a url about an amplifier keyer i did see here,but
> have had not luck,i am very curios to see it and buy one,i have a SB 200
> Which i want to interface with a yaesu 847,i smoked my electronic switching
> on the 847,so this time i need to step down the amps and change the ac to dc
> as to make it compatible w.the sb200 thanks to all  kb9pil   tony
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From slyon at PACIFICNET.NET  Tue Dec 17 11:13:25 2002
From: slyon at PACIFICNET.NET (Stu Lyon)
Date: Tue Dec 17 09:13:25 2002 MST
Subject: the new ampkeyer for vintage amps
Message-ID: <mailman.13351.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Tony,

Try:  http://www.harbachelectronics.com/

73, Stu W6CUX
Winnetka, CA
slyon at pacificnet.net

Does your keyboard have a shift key?

----- Original Message -----
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To: <HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV>
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 6:12 PM
Subject: the new ampkeyer for vintage amps


> hello,i am trying to find a url about an amplifier keyer i did see
here,but
> have had not luck,i am very curios to see it and buy one,i have a SB 200
> Which i want to interface with a yaesu 847,i smoked my electronic
switching
> on the 847,so this time i need to step down the amps and change the ac to
dc
> as to make it compatible w.the sb200 thanks to all  kb9pil   tony
>
>

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From w4gbw at BREVARD.NET  Tue Dec 17 13:15:00 2002
From: w4gbw at BREVARD.NET (Charles W. Morehouse)
Date: Tue Dec 17 11:15:00 2002 MST
Subject: Heathkit SB-610 Problem SOLVED...
Message-ID: <mailman.13352.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Eddy,
Have restored many of the HO-10, 13, SB-610, 620 critters. When the HV
circuit goes, replace EVERYTHING. Mouser has the diodes and resistors,
Antique has the .05 mf @ 1600 v orangedrops ( use two ) and the 1V2
rectifiers. No trouble since.
Wayne;
W4GBW

Eddy Swynar wrote:

>Seasons Greetings Fellow Heathniks...
>
>Last night I ran into a situation with my beloved SB-610 that appeared quite
>vexing initially,but which ultimately was solved. I'm sharing it with you to
>file away mentally for possible future consideration "...just in case".
>
>
>
>

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From rsahlen at VOICENET.COM  Tue Dec 17 13:36:16 2002
From: rsahlen at VOICENET.COM (Rich Sahlender)
Date: Tue Dec 17 11:36:16 2002 MST
Subject: Apache High Plate Current
In-Reply-To: <MGEJKLKIHNDNNBGFOLHIOEAIDBAA.brianmwood@email.msn.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.13353.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Interesting... the Apache does indeed use the 5763 as a driver.
I think it's pretty "busy" underneath it but I'll have a look.

tnx de Rich WA3WLH

On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 10:34:47PM -0700, Brian Wood wrote:
> Rich,
>
> After thinking I had fixed my grid current flicker by replacing the 47 pf
> capacitor that serves as the load for the final grids, I think I have now
> found that the flickering is related to the ground wire that runs along the
> side of the bracket-mounted driver tuning cap in the DX-100. If the Apache
> is built in a similar fashion, you might watch out for capacitive coupling
> from your driver tube to nearby grounds. The driver in a DX-100 is a 5763.
> Course, it could also be a bad contact in the 5763 tube socket. The
> flickering seems to stop when I angle the tube away from the ground wire,
> which of course affects the connectivity to the socket too.
>
> 73,
>
> Brian, W0DZ

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From prosolar at SSSNET.COM  Tue Dec 17 14:02:31 2002
From: prosolar at SSSNET.COM (mike bryce)
Date: Tue Dec 17 12:02:31 2002 MST
Subject: the new ampkeyer for vintage amps
In-Reply-To: <003b01c2a5e7$44268a00$0e6ce93f@oemcomputer>
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tony..

that might be my AmpKeyer...

designed to key just about anything you can plug into it. I use one on my
jupiter to key a heathkit sb200.

the sb200 requires negative (-130 volts) keying while the sb220 requires
positive (+130 volts) keying

the ampkeyer will handle either one (or both at the same time!)

here's the url..

http://www.theheathkitshop.com/ampkeyer.html

Mike Bryce WB8VGE
SunLight Energy Systems

http://www.seslogic.com
http://www.theheathkitshop.com

"Electricity at the speed of light"

> From: Stu Lyon <slyon at PACIFICNET.NET>
> Reply-To: Stu Lyon <slyon at PACIFICNET.NET>
> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 08:13:25 -0800
> To: HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV
> Subject: Re: the new ampkeyer for vintage amps

>> hello,i am trying to find a url about an amplifier keyer i did see
> here,but
>> have had not luck,i am very curios to see it and buy one,i have a SB 200
>> Which i want to interface with a yaesu 847,i smoked my electronic
> switching
>> on the 847,so this time i need to step down the amps and change the ac to
> dc
>> as to make it compatible w.the sb200 thanks to all  kb9pil   tony
>>
>>
>
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From prosolar at SSSNET.COM  Tue Dec 17 14:07:26 2002
From: prosolar at SSSNET.COM (mike bryce)
Date: Tue Dec 17 12:07:26 2002 MST
Subject: SB-110a
In-Reply-To: <200212171459.gBHExVj01071@mail3.mx.voyager.net>
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dave..

if you think the transformers are really out of whack, couple a scope to the
output of each section that is tuned by the transformer. then while watching
the scope, tune the transformer for max output, then move on to the next
stage and repeat. this should work provided heath wants to peak the stages
on the output of each stage and not go after a null..

Mike Bryce WB8VGE
SunLight Energy Systems

http://www.seslogic.com
http://www.theheathkitshop.com

"Electricity at the speed of light"

> From: Dave Leisman <wb8baf at VOYAGER.NET>
> Reply-To: Dave Leisman <wb8baf at VOYAGER.NET>
> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 09:59:31 -0500
> To: HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV
> Subject: SB-110a
>
> I need some help with this "project"  I have an SB-110a and the
> receiver is great, but I am having problems with the transmitter
> section.  I can get only milliwatts out from the thing.  New driver
> tube and 2 brand new 6146 finals but still nothing.  I have gone
> through the full tune up procedure, as stated in the manual several
> times,all with the same result.
>
> I know I at least get some signal out because I can transmit into a
> dummy load and easily hear the signal on a second receiver located 30
> yards away. And I know the LMO works as well.
>
> I fear that the bandpass transformers located ahead of the driver tube
> have been turned too far out of synch and need to be "homed" so the
> thing can be properly tuned.  Turning the final tune control, the
> preselector and the load control do have some effect but with such
> nominal power output it's hard to judge exactly how much effect.
>
> In every other way the rig is great.  I use an HP-23a as power supply.
> So, any suggections would be appreciated.  This is a great rig and I
> really want the thing up and running.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dave, W8QW
>
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From rudita5 at HOTMAIL.COM  Tue Dec 17 18:02:23 2002
From: rudita5 at HOTMAIL.COM (tony delatejera)
Date: Tue Dec 17 16:02:23 2002 MST
Subject: found web site for the amikeyer
Message-ID: <mailman.13356.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


              thank you steve,and all the good folks ,i found what i was
looking for in the heatkitstore,have a blessed holidays all of you!




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From james.pratt at ATTWS.COM  Tue Dec 17 16:37:49 2002
From: james.pratt at ATTWS.COM (Pratt, James)
Date: Tue Dec 17 14:37:49 2002 MST
Subject: SB-610
Message-ID: <mailman.13357.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Hey Eddie..

WELL DONE!!!!!  I had a similiar problem with my SB-610 awhile back.. Thank GOD for my Sencore LC meter.. It has been great in sniffing out the bad caps..

Cheers!
Jim Pratt K7QI

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From n7rk at COX.NET  Wed Dec 18 00:53:34 2002
From: n7rk at COX.NET (David Hollander)
Date: Tue Dec 17 22:53:34 2002 MST
Subject: Goodies for Sale
Message-ID: <mailman.13358.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Here is a bunch of stuff for sale. Prices do not include shipping unless
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Click on the links for pictures.

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From aa4lr at ARRL.NET  Tue Dec 17 23:27:20 2002
From: aa4lr at ARRL.NET (Bill Coleman)
Date: Tue Dec 17 21:27:20 2002 MST
Subject: HR-10 thread...
Message-ID: <mailman.13359.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


On 9/18/02 9:57 AM, Gerald C. Lemay at w1id at FCGNETWORKS.NET wrote:

>You can indeed narrow the "nose" of the filter but you can't really
>improve "skirt" selectivity due to the fact there are only 2 crystals
>comprising the filter. Some years ago I got a junker HR-10, took out the
>filter transformer and crystals and put it in another HR-10. Other than the
>fact insertion loss was greater than a stock HR-10, selectivity was then
>pretty decent for most CW operation and some SSB.

I did a similar experiment some years ago. I had two HR-10Bs (one was my
brothers), and put two identical crystals in the IF. My theory was that
it would have an extremely narrow filter.

Unfortunately, it didn't work. I couldn't get the IF amplifier to stop
oscillating, no matter how I re-tuned the IF transformer.



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From Milanbagel at CS.COM  Wed Dec 18 10:27:09 2002
From: Milanbagel at CS.COM (Milan Bagel)
Date: Wed Dec 18 08:27:09 2002 MST
Subject: HO-10
Message-ID: <mailman.13360.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Hello Experts!

I have restored a lot of HO-10 monitors but this one has me stumped...  The
sweep pattern using sine function seems to have some signal (or?) on it
rather than being a straight line.  I thought it might be AC ripple but have
replaced all of the usual HV components.  The sweep picture looks like little
"ocean waves" Hi Hi.  Any thoughts out there?

Tnx and 73,  Milan  K9HDX

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From prosolar at SSSNET.COM  Wed Dec 18 14:44:19 2002
From: prosolar at SSSNET.COM (mike bryce)
Date: Wed Dec 18 12:44:19 2002 MST
Subject: HO-10
In-Reply-To: <144.57611a4.2b31edcd@cs.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.13361.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


start by poking around the vertical input amplifier... could be picking up
stray ac.

the input amplifier could even be oscillating! you might need to couple a
second scope to the input grid of the amp to see what's there.


Mike Bryce WB8VGE
SunLight Energy Systems

http://www.seslogic.com
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"Electricity at the speed of light"

> From: Milan Bagel <Milanbagel at CS.COM>
> Reply-To: Milanbagel at CS.COM
> Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 10:27:09 EST
> To: HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV
> Subject: HO-10
>
> Hello Experts!
>
> I have restored a lot of HO-10 monitors but this one has me stumped...  The
> sweep pattern using sine function seems to have some signal (or?) on it
> rather than being a straight line.  I thought it might be AC ripple but have
> replaced all of the usual HV components.  The sweep picture looks like little
> "ocean waves" Hi Hi.  Any thoughts out there?
>
> Tnx and 73,  Milan  K9HDX
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From OTAKEBI at AOL.COM  Wed Dec 18 17:05:08 2002
From: OTAKEBI at AOL.COM (Dan Pividal N4VET)
Date: Wed Dec 18 15:05:08 2002 MST
Subject: Need Tech Help
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Need to find someone that can work on a DFC180 of a Kenwood TS180.
The unit will not store memory.
Would like to know of anyone that works on these units.
I live in Tampa, Fl.
Unit is to old to ship.
But, I can drive it to repair within reason,
Thanks,
Dan

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From e.j.forwood at JUNO.COM  Wed Dec 18 19:40:17 2002
From: e.j.forwood at JUNO.COM (E. Jerold Forwood)
Date: Wed Dec 18 17:40:17 2002 MST
Subject: Need Tech Help
Message-ID: <mailman.13363.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Check the small battery inside that makes the memory hold.  It should be
easy to find, if you have the manual/schematic.  Not sure on this model,
but some are soldered in.  Not hard to change though.
73's de Jerry, K?EJF


On Wed, 18 Dec 2002 17:05:08 EST Dan Pividal N4VET <OTAKEBI at AOL.COM>
writes:
> Need to find someone that can work on a DFC180 of a Kenwood TS180.
> The unit will not store memory.
> Would like to know of anyone that works on these units.
> I live in Tampa, Fl.
> Unit is to old to ship.
> But, I can drive it to repair within reason,
> Thanks,
> Dan
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From RECCOP18 at AOL.COM  Wed Dec 18 21:02:16 2002
From: RECCOP18 at AOL.COM (H.G. Jerry Dowell)
Date: Wed Dec 18 19:02:16 2002 MST
Subject: Need Tech Help HX-10 Power Supply
Message-ID: <mailman.13364.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Have or Had nice HX-10 Marauder. Noticed a slight spark sound when turning on
to warm up in the Power Supply Section. Checked Tubes / Electrolytics/ other
Caps and Resistors in the Power Supply section. Last check in turning on
about blew the 5R4 tube out of socket.  This tube is the High voltage
Rectifier in this unit.
Help Please.



   W0GYR
H. G. Jerry Dowell
19201 E. Truman Rd.
Independence, Missouri
64056-2432
816-796-0800
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From ab5wg at MYLINUXISP.COM  Wed Dec 18 21:30:28 2002
From: ab5wg at MYLINUXISP.COM (Ron)
Date: Wed Dec 18 19:30:28 2002 MST
Subject: WTD:  Heath Collector to adopt RX1/TX1/AK5
Message-ID: <mailman.13365.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


I am looking for a collector who would like to adopt this pair.  Both have
been fully restored and include extras.  The RX-1 has been rebuilt from
scratch using all modern components.  The K6AD mods were incorporated during
the reconstruction.  Frequency stabilization was achieved with a temperature
controlled oven for the front end.  The RX-1, TX-1 and matching speaker (I
think it is the AK5--big ugly one) have all had their cabinets refinished in
the correct color and in epoxy enamel.  Both sets have the chrome knobs and
new dial drums.  The RX-1 works and sounds great on AM.  SSB reception is a
little tricky, but never use it on SSB.  Main tuning knobs on both sets use
the Marauder spinner knob.  The Apache was a total restoration also.  The
chassis was nickel plated before restoration began.  Audio is a matched set
of Svetlana EL-34's. Power supply is all solid state. The clipper/limiter
was bypassed and I chose instead to use the Ten-Tec solid state compressor
which is built into the base of a D-104.  Apache has full PTT.  DowKey
coaxial antenna relay included with the station.  This equipment is
absolutely gorgeous in appearance.  If you want to get into AM with a
classic Heath station these are for you. I will listen to any serious offers
from the group.

Thanks,

Ron, AB5WG

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From bakken at NET-PORT.COM  Wed Dec 18 21:37:47 2002
From: bakken at NET-PORT.COM (Ken Bakhaus)
Date: Wed Dec 18 19:37:47 2002 MST
Subject: tech help on TS 180 memory
Message-ID: <mailman.13366.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


I don't know the particulars on a TS180 battery change but have done it on my TS570. It was a simple change but I am under the understanding that it must be done with a power supply connected or there will be other consequences. There were a couple articles concerning this in QST which I probably could find if interested. My experience was relatively easy and successful on the TS570 and memory functions were restored. It was done with PS connected and ON but w/o the rig being turned on.

Ken - K8PAO since 59

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From mkx at SYMPATICO.CA  Wed Dec 18 23:20:58 2002
From: mkx at SYMPATICO.CA (M. Kassay)
Date: Wed Dec 18 21:20:58 2002 MST
Subject: UPDATE for sale... New items
Message-ID: <mailman.13367.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


WANTED:
                         Heathkit  ID-2295 rain gauge

For Sale...
                  Heathkit ORIGINAL MANUALS... price includes shipping !

Heath  IM-11 vtvm  $8 US

Heath  HD-1984 micorder $9 US

Heath  SA-5010a keyer  $12 US

Heath Mohican spec sheet $4 US

Heath TS-4a tv alignment gen  $9 US

Heath  IM-38 vtvm  $9 US

Heath   SB-600 spkr  $8 US

Heath  HD-15 phone patch $7 US

Heath HN-31 cantenna  $7 US

Heath  IO-102 scope  $10 US

Heath  IB-102 frq scaler $10 US

Heath  HP-13a pwr supply  $9 US

Heath HD-1234 ant switch  $8 US

Heath  HM-9 qrp wattmeter  $9 US

Heath  SB-300 spec sheet  $7 US

Heath  HW-202 2m rig  $12 US

Heath  HM-2102 swr/pwr meter  $9 US

Heath  GD-1021 photo relay  $8 US

Heath  V-6 VTVM  $8 US

Heath  HM-11 swr/pwr meter  $9 US

Heath  HWA-2036-3 pwr supply  $10 US

Heath  IM-11 vtvm  $8 US

Heath  GC-1005 clock  $10 US

Heath  HWA-7-1 pwr supply  $11 US

            EQUIPMENT for   SALE....

Heath  HW-9 hf rig - dead   $175 US

Heath   SB-650 freq display  $180 US

Heath  HWA-9 band pack kit  $60 US

Heath   HWA-202-1 pwr supply  $25 US

Heath   HW-202   2m rig  $20

Heath     HP-23a $45 ea.

SB-630 station console mint  $75 US

IT-27  trans checker  $13 US

Digital techniques books x2  $15 US

SB series crystal band pack $35 US

SB-600 speaker  $40 US

CW filter  404-284-1  $38 US shipped

Heath HW-16 novice transceiver $145 US

brand new in box - Radio Shack goose neck style desk mic 33-921  $60 US

Shipping extra on equipment,  for further info, pls send me an Email.
--
73 Mike

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year !

Ho Ho Ho !

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From gzook at YAHOO.COM  Thu Dec 19 02:45:09 2002
From: gzook at YAHOO.COM (Glen Zook)
Date: Thu Dec 19 00:45:09 2002 MST
Subject: Heath HG-10
Message-ID: <mailman.13368.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Having never owned one, and the manual is doesn't
really say.  Is the 80 meter output really in the 3.5
- 4.0 MHz range or is it like most of the Heath
equipment from the era and is actually operating in
the 160 meter (1.750 - 2.000 MHz) range?  Even the
Apache VFO operates on 160 meters even though the
transmitter does not.

Glen, K9STH

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From wb8jkr at JUNO.COM  Thu Dec 19 05:39:35 2002
From: wb8jkr at JUNO.COM (Mark Graalman WB8JKR)
Date: Thu Dec 19 03:39:35 2002 MST
Subject: Sb-630 question
Message-ID: <mailman.13369.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


 Can anybody on the list Email me a scan of the
"Theory of operation" section of the SB-630
station console?  Its the only part of the manual
a friend of mine doesn't have and the BAMA site
doesn't have it either.

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From bugmarx at EV1.NET  Thu Dec 19 06:30:57 2002
From: bugmarx at EV1.NET (Carl C. Miller)
Date: Thu Dec 19 04:30:57 2002 MST
Subject: No Code License
Message-ID: <mailman.13370.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Hello. This is KA5KAB 's wife. I was wondering if anyone could tell me if they still offer the NO Code license.
Thanks,
Renee

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From gzook at YAHOO.COM  Thu Dec 19 11:29:27 2002
From: gzook at YAHOO.COM (Glen Zook)
Date: Thu Dec 19 09:29:27 2002 MST
Subject: No Code License
In-Reply-To: <000e01c2a752$1a12ed00$08d90cd8@pavilion>
Message-ID: <mailman.13371.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


The "No Code" Technician class is still offered.

Glen, K9STH


--- "Carl C. Miller" <bugmarx at EV1.NET> wrote:

Hello. This is KA5KAB 's wife. I was wondering if
anyone could tell me if they still offer the NO Code


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From wb8jkr at JUNO.COM  Thu Dec 19 11:28:26 2002
From: wb8jkr at JUNO.COM (Mark Graalman WB8JKR)
Date: Thu Dec 19 09:28:26 2002 MST
Subject: SB-630 question answered
Message-ID: <mailman.13372.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


 I got the info I needed on the SB-630, thank you!

73,  Mark  WB8JKR

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From maytag at EN-TEL.NET  Thu Dec 19 12:41:13 2002
From: maytag at EN-TEL.NET (W.A. Strong)
Date: Thu Dec 19 10:41:13 2002 MST
Subject: Modern lingo--
Message-ID: <mailman.13373.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


  Heath gear is old ;  one would surmise many of the owners probably are also-- 
 Just a general observation- (Don't open any threads on this, fellows)
 I ran across the following in  a computer magazine "CPU" - the  containing article was a review of a vacuum  tube being  placed in a computer  audio board... 
 Quote " It's totally tubular  Dude ! "  
  Modern expression -- I like it  ! 
 Bill  


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From wittfa19 at EARTHLINK.NET  Thu Dec 19 13:23:43 2002
From: wittfa19 at EARTHLINK.NET (Fred Wittman)
Date: Thu Dec 19 11:23:43 2002 MST
Subject: No Code License
Message-ID: <mailman.13374.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


It's the Technician class you're wanting.  Study the book "Now You're
Talking," and you'll have one in no time.

Fred W.  -  KG6NYK
----- Original Message -----
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To: <HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV>
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 3:30 AM
Subject: No Code License


Hello. This is KA5KAB 's wife. I was wondering if anyone could tell me if
they still offer the NO Code license.
Thanks,
Renee

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From rsahlen at VOICENET.COM  Thu Dec 19 15:03:57 2002
From: rsahlen at VOICENET.COM (Rich Sahlender)
Date: Thu Dec 19 13:03:57 2002 MST
Subject: Heath HG-10 VFO
In-Reply-To: <20021219074643.22765.qmail@web40206.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.13375.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Glen,

The "SPECIFICATIONS" page (page 2 in my manual) has the following
chart:

Band            Dial            Output
(Meters)        Calibrator      Frequency
========        ========        ========
80              3.5 to 4        3.5 to 4
40              7 to 7.4        7 to 7.425
20              14 to 14.8      7 to 7.425
15              21 to 22.2      7 to 7.425
10              28 to 29.7      7 to 7.425
6               50 to 54        8.333 to 9
2               144 to 148      8 to 8.222

73 de Rich WA3WLH

On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 11:46:43PM -0800, Glen Zook wrote:
> Having never owned one, and the manual is doesn't
> really say.  Is the 80 meter output of the HG-10
> really in the 3.5 - 4.0 MHz range or is it like most
> of the Heath equipment from the era and is actually
> operating in the 160 meter (1.750 - 2.000 MHz) range?
> Even the Apache VFO operates on 160 meters even though
> the transmitter does not.
>
> Glen, K9STH
>
> =====
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>
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>
> http://home.attbi.com/~k9sth
> http://home.attbi.com/~zcomco

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From eric_pierce at SYMPATICO.CA  Thu Dec 19 15:56:20 2002
From: eric_pierce at SYMPATICO.CA (Eric Pierce)
Date: Thu Dec 19 13:56:20 2002 MST
Subject: IG-18 Signal Generator - identity of Q5 - follow up
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021206144333.00a36520@pop.mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.13376.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


> ... Q5, 417-201 is a 2N3906, a generic PNP transistor.

NOTE that the 2N3906 has a different pin out. The PCB is laid out for an
ECB configuration, the 2N3906 is EBC.

This and the diode fixed my problem (once I installed it the right way
:-)

Thanks again for all the help, another piece of heathkit history back in
service!


Eric VA3EP

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From rgreene at PIVOT.NET  Thu Dec 19 14:07:48 2002
From: rgreene at PIVOT.NET (Bob Greene)
Date: Thu Dec 19 12:07:48 2002 MST
Subject: Heathkit Sixer Schematic (hw-29)
Message-ID: <mailman.13377.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Does anyone know where I can download the schematic? I've checked BAMA, but all they have is the schematic for the HW-29A; I have the HW-29. I'd like to fire up the old beast and work some AM......

Many thanks!

N6QWI

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From ARDUJENSKI at AOL.COM  Thu Dec 19 19:50:55 2002
From: ARDUJENSKI at AOL.COM (Alan KB7MBI)
Date: Thu Dec 19 17:50:55 2002 MST
Subject: SB-200 Series amps(?)
Message-ID: <mailman.13378.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


I am looking at purchasing a used HF amp in the near future and have been
leaning toward the SB-200 series amps primarily due to the reputation for
durability and good deal for the price. I would apprecaite any recommendation
as to which ones are more trouble free than others and also any items to ask
about. I am primarily interested in 20m+ with occasional 75/80m usage. My
intent is to run 220 to the shack. This is my first time going QRO so little
unsure of the HF amp market

Alan KB7MBI
Woodinville, WA

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From tlee at WCOIL.COM  Fri Dec 20 08:51:17 2002
From: tlee at WCOIL.COM (tlee)
Date: Fri Dec 20 06:51:17 2002 MST
Subject: FS/FT: SB-230 amplifier-bad tube
Message-ID: <mailman.13379.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Hello to all--I have an SB-230 amplifer with a bad tube in it for sale or trade.  Power supply caps have been replaced in it.  Would take $200 for this amp or trade for other ham gear of equal value.  Shipping and packing costs are to be paid by the buyer.  Pictures of this amp can be seen at http://www2.wcoil.com/~tlee/     73  Ted N8GPQ  

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From wb9iog at REVEALED.NET  Fri Dec 20 02:04:13 2002
From: wb9iog at REVEALED.NET (MIKE SOUHRADA)
Date: Fri Dec 20 00:04:13 2002 MST
Subject: WTB Resistor IM 18
Message-ID: <mailman.13380.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Well my trusty 30 year old VTVM gave up the ghost.
To restore the resistance measurement capability I need PN 3-4-2
9.1 Ohmn 5% precision 2 watt resistor. White,brown,gold,gold
Fits on the large range switch in the back ; lug 1 & 11, ref pg 9.

Interesting note on page 5 re that part. Says it's a wire wound
2watt ; the same size as a 1 watt. Guess I could wind one but
haven't done that in years. Anyone else try that?

With out that resistor the meter is only useful for AC/DC.
Anyone with a junker out there that can pull it out?
Tnx for the read.
Mike
Iowa

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From Daddio683 at AOL.COM  Fri Dec 20 11:43:52 2002
From: Daddio683 at AOL.COM (Gary Fortnum)
Date: Fri Dec 20 09:43:52 2002 MST
Subject: WTB Resistor IM 18
Message-ID: <mailman.13381.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Mike,
No need to go to the trouble of trying to wind one. There should be lots of
resistors that fit the requirements. The original one was an IRC type BWH or
as it seems to be called today, the SPH series.

Regards,
 Gary.

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From prosolar at SSSNET.COM  Fri Dec 20 12:21:19 2002
From: prosolar at SSSNET.COM (mike bryce)
Date: Fri Dec 20 10:21:19 2002 MST
Subject: IG-18 Signal Generator - identity of Q5 - follow up
In-Reply-To: <000b01c2a7a1$14f74d80$c400a8c0@w2kserver>
Message-ID: <mailman.13382.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


boys and girls...

I have several thousand ( I think somewhere around 27 thousand) transistors
on tape that have this goofy pin out..

they're NPN type. got these from ebay a year or so ago thinking I could use
them in some project. but having this odd pin out put the screws to that
idea. I did not know at the time the pin out was "non standard"

I did not want to design a pc board using these transistors.

so if anyone wants some, how about $4 for five feet of transistors plus a
buck for mailing. there's a lot of transistors in five feet of tape.

I've used some of these in the past to fix heathkit products and they work
without hassle.



Mike Bryce WB8VGE
SunLight Energy Systems

http://www.seslogic.com
http://www.theheathkitshop.com

"Electricity at the speed of light"

> From: Eric Pierce <eric_pierce at SYMPATICO.CA>
> Reply-To: Eric Pierce <eric_pierce at SYMPATICO.CA>
> Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 15:56:20 -0500
> To: HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV
> Subject: Re: IG-18 Signal Generator - identity of Q5 - follow up
>
>> ... Q5, 417-201 is a 2N3906, a generic PNP transistor.
>
> NOTE that the 2N3906 has a different pin out. The PCB is laid out for an
> ECB configuration, the 2N3906 is EBC.
>
> This and the diode fixed my problem (once I installed it the right way
> :-)
>
> Thanks again for all the help, another piece of heathkit history back in
> service!
>
>
> Eric VA3EP
>
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From rav4wd at EARTHLINK.NET  Fri Dec 20 13:17:34 2002
From: rav4wd at EARTHLINK.NET (Ken Newman)
Date: Fri Dec 20 11:17:34 2002 MST
Subject: wanted heath hdp-1473 manual or copy.
Message-ID: <mailman.13383.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Hi,
 I just acquired a unused pristine hdp-1473 10thru80 vertical antenna.With it's original box. I need a copy or original manual for it. Please send your info and cost. Thanks, Ken  kb4bjm

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From BobbyTrip at AOL.COM  Fri Dec 20 14:14:20 2002
From: BobbyTrip at AOL.COM (Bob, WB2UJD)
Date: Fri Dec 20 12:14:20 2002 MST
Subject: WTB Resistor IM 18
Message-ID: <mailman.13384.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


You can certainly buy a 9.1 ohm 5% 2W resistor many places, Digi-Key, Mouser,
etc...  Not sure Radio Snack would have such a resistor, but this should be
easy to locate a suitable replacement for.

Bob, WB2UJD

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From SkyboltN101TW at AOL.COM  Fri Dec 20 14:43:55 2002
From: SkyboltN101TW at AOL.COM (TW Wheelock - KA5ILN)
Date: Fri Dec 20 12:43:55 2002 MST
Subject: VF-7401 Manual
Message-ID: <mailman.13385.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Does anyone have an extra VF-7401 Manual with Illustration Book and Schematic
that they would like to sell?

TW, KA5ILN

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From radiorepair at MINDSPRING.COM  Fri Dec 20 21:03:06 2002
From: radiorepair at MINDSPRING.COM (Malcolm Leonard)
Date: Fri Dec 20 19:03:06 2002 MST
Subject: WTB Resistor IM 18
Message-ID: <mailman.13386.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


I have an  IM-11 switch with the part you need.The leads are terribly
short,though.
I can heat sink it,remove it very carefully and check it with a known
accurate Wavetek DVM and get it out to you,if nobody else happens to have a
new,never soldered one(probably no one does.)
I don't want cash,but it is always fun to swap stuff and I am looking to
build up my antique radio tube stock.If possible,I could use a known good
6L6.If not... any tube commonly used in radios between 1935 and 1955.
If you have no trade,then you can just have the resistor anyway for nothing.
Malcolm Leonard
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> Well my trusty 30 year old VTVM gave up the ghost.
> To restore the resistance measurement capability I need PN 3-4-2
> 9.1 Ohmn 5% precision 2 watt resistor. White,brown,gold,gold
> Fits on the large range switch in the back ; lug 1 & 11, ref pg 9.
>
> Interesting note on page 5 re that part. Says it's a wire wound
> 2watt ; the same size as a 1 watt. Guess I could wind one but
> haven't done that in years. Anyone else try that?
>
> With out that resistor the meter is only useful for AC/DC.
> Anyone with a junker out there that can pull it out?
> Tnx for the read.
> Mike
> Iowa
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From multi-volti at MULTI-VOLTI.COM  Fri Dec 20 20:46:36 2002
From: multi-volti at MULTI-VOLTI.COM (multi-volti at MULTI-VOLTI.COM)
Date: Fri Dec 20 18:46:36 2002 MST
Subject: Someone needs 52-43 IF xfmr
Message-ID: <mailman.13387.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Hello:

I got a phone call from someone looking for a 52-43 IF transformer.

Can anyone help him? Please contact me and I guess I'll call him back & give
him your contact info, or I can give you his #.

Murray

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From multi-volti at MULTI-VOLTI.COM  Fri Dec 20 22:10:40 2002
From: multi-volti at MULTI-VOLTI.COM (multi-volti at MULTI-VOLTI.COM)
Date: Fri Dec 20 20:10:40 2002 MST
Subject: 52-43
Message-ID: <mailman.13388.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Never mind...a day late and a dollar short...

He's on the list, and already found one - probably one of you guys helped
him out.

Happy Holidays.

Murray

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From johnph3 at JUNO.COM  Sat Dec 21 01:04:22 2002
From: johnph3 at JUNO.COM (John Q. Doe)
Date: Fri Dec 20 23:04:22 2002 MST
Subject: Heath AR-3
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Looking for an original Heathkit Manual for AR-3. Have many manuals to
trade, or will buy .
Thanks John

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From bcarling at CFL.RR.COM  Sat Dec 21 09:01:19 2002
From: bcarling at CFL.RR.COM (Brian Carling)
Date: Sat Dec 21 07:01:19 2002 MST
Subject: FOR SALE: VARIACS
Message-ID: <mailman.13390.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


FOR SALE:

VARIAC Model W10 variable transformer for 120V AC in,
and 0-120V out at 10 Amps, brand new and complete with
the knob and dial scale
$75.00 plus shipping

VARIAC Model W10 variable transformer for 120V AC in,
and 0-120V out at 10 Amps, looks like new, has knob
but is missing the dial scale plate
$65.00 plus shipping

General Radio Variac model M20 has 0-140V AC at 20 Amps - enclosed in heavy
duty aluminum case with feet.
Heavy duty construction that G.R. is famous for.
Comes with knob and scale. Excellent shape - Looks like new.
Plate states that it is for 350 Hz and up but works OK up to a
few amps on 60 Hz also.
Will sell for $45.00 plus shipping.

E-mail me for pictures or to arrange purchase.

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From bcarling at CFL.RR.COM  Sat Dec 21 12:14:18 2002
From: bcarling at CFL.RR.COM (Brian Carling)
Date: Sat Dec 21 10:14:18 2002 MST
Subject: Heath HW-29 Available
Message-ID: <mailman.13391.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Original buyer changed his mind so this is now available still:

Benton Harbor Lunchbox rig -

Heath HW-29 Sixer AM transceiver for 50MHz  band.
5 Watts Power Output. these were sold from 1960 to 1970.
Case is missing, otherwise complete with all tubes etc. and in fair
condition. Supplied as-is with one crystal and a manual.
AC power supply is built-in. Picture available.

Will sell for $35.00 plus shipping

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From eric_pierce at SYMPATICO.CA  Sat Dec 21 18:18:38 2002
From: eric_pierce at SYMPATICO.CA (Eric Pierce)
Date: Sat Dec 21 16:18:38 2002 MST
Subject: Need schematic for 2 tone generator
In-Reply-To: <3E045B1A.2875.262280@localhost>
Message-ID: <mailman.13392.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


I want to build a two tone generator for testing ssb rigs, and although
I found some schematics on the internet, I also found that Far Circuits
has circuit boards for two circuits and that will do a neater job.

Unfortunately I cannot find the associated articles on line, and do not
have the original publications. Does any one have access to:


ARRL Handbook, "A B TWO TONE GENERATOR"
The article is in Chapter 25 FIG.39 in handbooks > 1993 (although it is
not in the 2001 one that I have) OR FIG.51 in handbooks 1988-91

 OR

QST Nov94 "TWO TONE GENERATOR"


If I could get a scan (or even paper copy) of the article from both that
would be great.


Thanks

Eric Pierce VA3EP

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From n7rk at COX.NET  Sun Dec 22 10:11:10 2002
From: n7rk at COX.NET (David Hollander)
Date: Sun Dec 22 08:11:10 2002 MST
Subject: Stuff for Sale
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Here is a bunch of stuff for sale. Prices do not include shipping unless

specified.

Click on the links for pictures.

Eico 324 Signal Generator with Manual (Copy).........$40
http://members.cox.net/radiostuff9/eico324.jpg

B&amp;W Model 600 Grid Dip Meter with Manual (Copy).......$65
http://members.cox.net/radiostuff9/bwgdo.jpg

TU-75A Transmitter Tuning Unit - New in Box!.......$100
http://members.cox.net/radiostuff9/tu75a.jpg
http://members.cox.net/radiostuff9/tu75a4.jpg
http://members.cox.net/radiostuff9/tu75a6.jpg

U.S. Army Keyboard Transmitter Teletypewriter.........$40
http://members.cox.net/radiostuff9/ttykeyboard.jpg
http://members.cox.net/radiostuff9/ttykeyboard2.jpg

Signal Corps RM-52 Remote Control Box..................$25
http://members.cox.net/radiostuff9/rm32.jpg

McElroy Bug...............$225
http://members.cox.net/radiostuff9/mackey.jpg
http://members.cox.net/radiostuff9/mackey2.jpg

Hallicrafters S-38EB   This is the "Rare" Blonde version in beautiful
condition and works great - $175
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http://members.cox.net/radiostuff9/s38eb2.jpg
http://members.cox.net/radiostuff9/s38eb3.jpg

Morrow 2BR - 80 and 10 Meter Converter-Rare (Untested) - $40
http://members.cox.net/radiostuff9/morrow.jpg
http://members.cox.net/radiostuff9/morrow3.jpg

Heathkit Model AK-7 Mobile Speaker.........$12
http://members.cox.net/radiostuff9/heathspeaker.jpg

Allied Radio Knight Kit AM-FM Tuner .........$30
http://members.cox.net/radiostuff9/knightamfmtuner.jpg
http://members.cox.net/radiostuff9/knightamfmtuner2.jpg

McMurdo Silver Model 900 VOMAX VTVM with manual copy (not
working)..........$25
http://members.cox.net/radiostuff9/silver900.jpg

GenRad W50MBB Variac Autotransformer - appears new  - $350
http://members.cox.net/radiostuff9/bigvariac.jpg
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http://members.cox.net/radiostuff9/bigvariac3.jpg


M2 RC2800 Antenna Controller (Rotator) Box...$80
http://members.cox.net/radiostuff9/m2rc2800.jpg


I will ship overseas.

You can check my user ID "n7rk" on Eb*y
for a reference as to dealing with me.

Thanks for looking and Happy Holidays,

Dave N7RK

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From Kenneth.Winterling at MBUSA.COM  Sun Dec 22 09:06:28 2002
From: Kenneth.Winterling at MBUSA.COM (Kenneth.Winterling at MBUSA.COM)
Date: Sun Dec 22 07:06:28 2002 MST
Subject: Need Info On Heathkit Battery Eliminator Model BE-2
Message-ID: <mailman.13394.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Greenies,

Does anybody have the specs, schematic, etc. for the Heathkit Battery 
Eliminator model BE-2? I have been unable to locate anything on line. Any help 
would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Ken, WA2LBI
wa2lbi at arrl.net
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From eric_pierce at SYMPATICO.CA  Sun Dec 22 14:27:04 2002
From: eric_pierce at SYMPATICO.CA (Eric Pierce)
Date: Sun Dec 22 12:27:04 2002 MST
Subject: Need schematic for 2 tone generator - THANKS
In-Reply-To: <000201c2a947$4b2c1eb0$c400a8c0@w2kserver>
Message-ID: <mailman.13395.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Thanks to those who responded, I now have both articles. This is a great
list!

FYI, the "ARRL Handbook, "A B TWO TONE GENERATOR" " is a fairly
elaborate circuit with  3 FET dual op amps, wein bridge oscillators, low
pass filters, buffer amps, level control etc.

The " QST Nov94 "TWO TONE GENERATOR" is a much simpler circuit with 2
FETs and a transistor.

Like I said the cct boards are available from
http://www.farcircuits.net/ for either.


Eric VA3EP
www.thirdpla.net

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From bobdean at ADELPHIA.NET  Sun Dec 22 14:22:52 2002
From: bobdean at ADELPHIA.NET (Bob Dean)
Date: Sun Dec 22 12:22:52 2002 MST
Subject: ID-2090 barometric chart recorder?
Message-ID: <mailman.13396.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Looking for replacement charts and PENS for Heathkit ID-2090 barometric chart recorder.
Tnx.   Bob Dean     bobdean at hotmail.com

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From ketner at ARISBEASSOCIATES.COM  Sun Dec 22 17:23:47 2002
From: ketner at ARISBEASSOCIATES.COM (Kenneth Laine Ketner)
Date: Sun Dec 22 15:23:47 2002 MST
Subject: AR-3
Message-ID: <mailman.13397.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


I recently picked up an orphaned Heathkit AR-3. I had always wondered if
it was a decent radio or not, but never had a chance to check one out.
The one I got had a few small cosmetic issues, and need a good cleaning
and alignment. I got it going with only the BAMA schematic.

For an ?all-american five tube? format, it is a fine little set. It has
a somewhat strange physical appearance, but that seems to grow on you
after a while. It is a fairly hot radio, and might even work marginly as
half a ham station just for kidding around in a vintage way. I have a
copy of an old POPULAR ELECTRONICS magazine that shows a novice station
from the 50s using an AT-1 and an AR-3.

I was wondering if anyone else has experience or insight into this set?
Is the manual of any value for getting one sorted out?  It is a rather
straightforward circuit.

--

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Email:
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From ke1fr at GIS.NET  Sun Dec 22 22:30:38 2002
From: ke1fr at GIS.NET (Robert Bertrand)
Date: Sun Dec 22 20:30:38 2002 MST
Subject: HW-8 Parts
Message-ID: <mailman.13398.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Hello all,
I am still in need of some parts for my hw8.
I need the Plastic Dial and a 80 meter tuning slug..
i might consider a junker or a non working rig if the price is right..
thank you,

Robert Bertrand - Ke1fr
P.O.Box 259
Charlemont,Ma 01339

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From rayfri at NETWORLD.COM  Sun Dec 22 23:52:29 2002
From: rayfri at NETWORLD.COM (rayfri)
Date: Sun Dec 22 21:52:29 2002 MST
Subject: RARE Heath??
Message-ID: <mailman.13399.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Is something happening that I'm not aware of, and that a lot of you may
not be
either?
     An auction description for an SB 401 says to get it now because
they are
becoming "truly rare".
     Are they?  From the FS's posted here it seemed to me that they are
still
rather plentiful....    Maybe I'm missing something...

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From ARDUJENSKI at AOL.COM  Mon Dec 23 07:18:10 2002
From: ARDUJENSKI at AOL.COM (Alan KB7MBI)
Date: Mon Dec 23 05:18:10 2002 MST
Subject: WANTED: IT-28 Capacitor checker
Message-ID: <mailman.13400.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Wanted: IT-28 in good working condition

Alan KB7MBI in Woodinville, WA
FISTS 5702  Proud member of ARRL
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From wa2tti at WORLDLYNX.NET  Mon Dec 23 10:24:34 2002
From: wa2tti at WORLDLYNX.NET (Jerry Harley)
Date: Mon Dec 23 08:24:34 2002 MST
Subject: AR-3
In-Reply-To: <3E063B6E.8767C328@arisbeassociates.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.13401.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Since this came up, I have an AS3, I think it is.  It is the Heathkit/AR3
speaker.  I have keep this for 30 years, any interest outthere is Green
land??  Jerry


At 04:23 PM 22/12/2002 -0600, Kenneth Laine Ketner wrote:
>I recently picked up an orphaned Heathkit AR-3. I had always wondered if
>it was a decent radio or not, but never had a chance to check one out.
>The one I got had a few small cosmetic issues, and need a good cleaning
>and alignment. I got it going with only the BAMA schematic.
>
>For an "all-american five tube" format, it is a fine little set. It has
>a somewhat strange physical appearance, but that seems to grow on you
>after a while. It is a fairly hot radio, and might even work marginly as
>half a ham station just for kidding around in a vintage way. I have a
>copy of an old POPULAR ELECTRONICS magazine that shows a novice station
>from the 50s using an AT-1 and an AR-3.
>
>I was wondering if anyone else has experience or insight into this set?
>Is the manual of any value for getting one sorted out?  It is a rather
>straightforward circuit.
>
>--
>
>Ken Ketner
>ARS KA5ELD (Extra Class)
>   Personal Webpage: http://www.wyttynys.net
>   Office Webpage: http://www.pragmaticism.net
>Email:
>  home: ketner at arisbeassociates.com
>  office: b9oky at ttacs.ttu.edu
>
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>PO Box 65135
>Lubbock, TX 79464
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From gzook at YAHOO.COM  Mon Dec 23 12:27:31 2002
From: gzook at YAHOO.COM (Glen Zook)
Date: Mon Dec 23 10:27:31 2002 MST
Subject: RARE Heath??
In-Reply-To: <3E06968C.62490694@networld.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.13402.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Sometimes when I put an item up on eBay I actually
sell some "rare Texas dirt" because the vast majority
of items on eBay described as "rare" are about as rare
as Texas dirt!  The item is offered for free along
with the dirt (actually dust on the item!).  I point
this out in the item description.

I usually get a few E-Mails appreciating the humor.

Glen, K9STH

--- rayfri <rayfri at NETWORLD.COM> wrote:

An auction description for an SB 401 says to get it
now because they are becoming "truly rare".

=====
Glen, K9STH

Web sites

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From gzook at YAHOO.COM  Mon Dec 23 12:29:42 2002
From: gzook at YAHOO.COM (Glen Zook)
Date: Mon Dec 23 10:29:42 2002 MST
Subject: AR-3
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20021223102228.01f7be70@mailin1.worldlynx.net>
Message-ID: <mailman.13403.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


The AR-3 has a built in speaker.  The AS3 would be
something unrelated.

Glen, K9STH

--- Jerry Harley <wa2tti at WORLDLYNX.NET> wrote:

Since this came up, I have an AS3, I think it is. It
is the Heathkit/AR3 speaker.  I have keep this for 30
years, any interest outthere is Green land??

=====
Glen, K9STH

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From egardner at TWCNY.RR.COM  Mon Dec 23 12:36:42 2002
From: egardner at TWCNY.RR.COM (Ed Gardner)
Date: Mon Dec 23 10:36:42 2002 MST
Subject: RARE Heath??
Message-ID: <mailman.13404.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Ray,

The ads are all for the same one. Its just being sold and resold for
more and more money each time. The impression that there are a lot of
them out there is only an illusion.

Ed

rayfri wrote:
>
> Is something happening that I'm not aware of, and that a lot of you may
> not be
> either?
>      An auction description for an SB 401 says to get it now because
> they are
> becoming "truly rare".
>      Are they?  From the FS's posted here it seemed to me that they are
> still
> rather plentiful....    Maybe I'm missing something...
>
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From windy10605 at JUNO.COM  Mon Dec 23 12:50:27 2002
From: windy10605 at JUNO.COM (Sandy and Kees Talen)
Date: Mon Dec 23 10:50:27 2002 MST
Subject: Fw: RARE Heath??
Message-ID: <mailman.13405.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Is that "rare", like in "not well done" ?....or does it
mean the unit is "partially cooked" ?

73 Kees K5BCQ

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From wa2tti at WORLDLYNX.NET  Mon Dec 23 16:04:52 2002
From: wa2tti at WORLDLYNX.NET (Jerry Harley)
Date: Mon Dec 23 14:04:52 2002 MST
Subject: AR-3
In-Reply-To: <20021223.140432.260.0.johnph3@juno.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.13406.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


I was wrong.  It is a AS2 speaker,  24 x 12 x 12.  Jerry
At 02:03 PM 23/12/2002 -0600, you wrote:
>Strange the AR-3 has a built in speaker. Maybe it is for something else?
>I certainly would like to see a picture of it. Might be an interesting
>piece for my collection.
>John
>
>On Mon, 23 Dec 2002 10:24:34 -0500 Jerry Harley <wa2tti at WORLDLYNX.NET>
>writes:
> > Since this came up, I have an AS3, I think it is.  It is the
> > Heathkit/AR3
> > speaker.  I have keep this for 30 years, any interest outthere is
> > Green
> > land??  Jerry
> >
> >
> > At 04:23 PM 22/12/2002 -0600, Kenneth Laine Ketner wrote:
> > >I recently picked up an orphaned Heathkit AR-3. I had always
> > wondered if
> > >it was a decent radio or not, but never had a chance to check one
> > out.
> > >The one I got had a few small cosmetic issues, and need a good
> > cleaning
> > >and alignment. I got it going with only the BAMA schematic.
> > >
> > >For an "all-american five tube" format, it is a fine little set. It
> > has
> > >a somewhat strange physical appearance, but that seems to grow on
> > you
> > >after a while. It is a fairly hot radio, and might even work
> > marginly as
> > >half a ham station just for kidding around in a vintage way. I have
> > a
> > >copy of an old POPULAR ELECTRONICS magazine that shows a novice
> > station
> > >from the 50s using an AT-1 and an AR-3.
> > >
> > >I was wondering if anyone else has experience or insight into this
> > set?
> > >Is the manual of any value for getting one sorted out?  It is a
> > rather
> > >straightforward circuit.
> > >
> > >--
> > >
> > >Ken Ketner
> > >ARS KA5ELD (Extra Class)
> > >   Personal Webpage: http://www.wyttynys.net
> > >   Office Webpage: http://www.pragmaticism.net
> > >Email:
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> > >  office: b9oky at ttacs.ttu.edu
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From w0akg at AEROSURF.NET  Mon Dec 23 17:09:49 2002
From: w0akg at AEROSURF.NET (Martin Tippin)
Date: Mon Dec 23 15:09:49 2002 MST
Subject: SB-220/221
Message-ID: <mailman.13407.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Looking for the RF choke # 45-6. 8.5 mh choke. Thanks
Martin L Tippin W?AKG
140 Monarch Lane
Branson, Mo 65616

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From w7prv at TELEPORT.COM  Mon Dec 23 18:19:22 2002
From: w7prv at TELEPORT.COM (FRED HOLNAGEL)
Date: Mon Dec 23 16:19:22 2002 MST
Subject: DX-60B
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My DX-60B listed on e-bay 1947325591Collector's quality. Fred W7PRV

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From mkx at SYMPATICO.CA  Mon Dec 23 19:21:45 2002
From: mkx at SYMPATICO.CA (M. Kassay)
Date: Mon Dec 23 17:21:45 2002 MST
Subject: WANTED !
Message-ID: <mailman.13409.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Hi Folks !

Im looking for the following....

front plastic case bezel for the ID-5001 weather station - in
good condition

I do have some ID-4001 parts that I can trade for the bezel too!

Better yet.... I will even buy a non working ID-5001 weather
station !

--
73 Mike

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year !

Ho Ho Ho !

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From mkx at SYMPATICO.CA  Mon Dec 23 20:32:11 2002
From: mkx at SYMPATICO.CA (M. Kassay)
Date: Mon Dec 23 18:32:11 2002 MST
Subject: ID-5001
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Hi All...

 I few months back someone was looking for the software for the
Heath ID-5001 weather station....  I now have a copy, so if you
were looking for it, send me an Email.

--
73 Mike

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year !

Ho Ho Ho !

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From wb8jkr at JUNO.COM  Mon Dec 23 20:48:00 2002
From: wb8jkr at JUNO.COM (Mark Graalman WB8JKR)
Date: Mon Dec 23 18:48:00 2002 MST
Subject: SB-220/221
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 Hi Martin,

Its a 8.5 uH choke, but your better off replacing it with a
10 ohm 5 watt ceramic wirewound.

73,  Mark  WB8JKR


On Mon, 23 Dec 2002 16:09:49 -0600 Martin Tippin <w0akg at AEROSURF.NET>
writes:
> Looking for the RF choke # 45-6. 8.5 mh choke. Thanks
> Martin L Tippin W?AKG
> 140 Monarch Lane
> Branson, Mo 65616
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From AA5QT at AOL.COM  Tue Dec 24 09:17:53 2002
From: AA5QT at AOL.COM (Gary Youney)
Date: Tue Dec 24 07:17:53 2002 MST
Subject: FS: Heathkit AT-1
Message-ID: <mailman.13412.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


The price is $150 plus shipping.? The front panel is great, and 
the unit looks all original to me.? I have a manual copy I'll throw in, and 
will pack it very carefully.? Again, it's the gray knob version (a bit more 
in demand).? It gives me 8 watts out on 40.? The front panel screws (to the 
cabinet) are a little loose - you may want to use larger ones, or put 
something in their 
holes to tighten them up a bit.? It is a very nice unit.  And after a lot of  
feedback, I did not replace the electrolytics!?

73,  Gary Youney  K5QT

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From mkx at SYMPATICO.CA  Tue Dec 24 09:26:27 2002
From: mkx at SYMPATICO.CA (M. Kassay)
Date: Tue Dec 24 07:26:27 2002 MST
Subject: Merry Christmas !
Message-ID: <mailman.13413.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Merry Christmas to all !

May your Christmas be a ' Green ' one !  ;)
--
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From ke4mg at YAHOO.COM  Tue Dec 24 12:43:05 2002
From: ke4mg at YAHOO.COM (ken kuzma)
Date: Tue Dec 24 10:43:05 2002 MST
Subject: Wanted Info GD-1A
Message-ID: <mailman.13414.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Hello all.
I am looking for coil info for this grid dip meter.
Diameter number of turns and gage of wire so I can
make up a set of coils. Would like coil info either
from manual or from phyical count of coils ypu may
have. Any info would be appreciated.

Thanks
Ken
KE4MG

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From kirk at 3RIVERS.NET  Tue Dec 24 16:32:26 2002
From: kirk at 3RIVERS.NET (kirk)
Date: Tue Dec 24 14:32:26 2002 MST
Subject: eBay item 3101665049 (Ends Dec-30-02 235652 PST ) - Variable
              Capacitor Lot 26Z
Message-ID: <mailman.13415.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


  4 lots of variable caps. Just came across these on ebay


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3101665049&ssPageName=ADM
E:B:RECO:US:2

also
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3101665008&ssPageName=ADM
E:B:RECO:US:2

and
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3101664962&ssPageName=ADM
E:B:RECO:US:2

and
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3101664915&ssPageName=ADM
E:B:RECO:US:2

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From bcarling at CFL.RR.COM  Tue Dec 24 16:34:36 2002
From: bcarling at CFL.RR.COM (Brian Carling)
Date: Tue Dec 24 14:34:36 2002 MST
Subject: eBay item 3101665049 (Ends Dec-30-02 235652 PST ) - Variable
              Capacitor Lot 26Z
In-Reply-To: <008f01c2ab94$00f85760$cdea81d8@mein8c9fx7p5mj>
Message-ID: <mailman.13416.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


These look like some strange parts out of VHF, UHF and  microwave medical
devices or something (grin!)

On 24 Dec 2002 at 14:32, kirk wrote:

>   4 lots of variable caps. Just came across these on ebay
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3101665049&ssPageNa
> me=ADM E:B:RECO:US:2
>
> also
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3101665008&ssPageNa
> me=ADM E:B:RECO:US:2
>
> and
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3101664962&ssPageNa
> me=ADM E:B:RECO:US:2
>
> and
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3101664915&ssPageNa
> me=ADM E:B:RECO:US:2
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From rayfri at NETWORLD.COM  Tue Dec 24 18:00:18 2002
From: rayfri at NETWORLD.COM (rayfri)
Date: Tue Dec 24 16:00:18 2002 MST
Subject: technical help needed
Message-ID: <mailman.13417.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


need some advice.  Whats the formula or method for determining how far
behind a driven element the reflector should go?
I'm building a 20 meter beam.  The driven element will be a shortened
one...
a dipole 102 inches on each side with loading coils on each half of the
dipole at the
feedpoint.  I know that reflectors are usually 5 percent longer than the
driven element, but I need to know the formula or method for figuring
how far behind the
driven element to put a reflector.
Ray  wa7itz

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From gzook at YAHOO.COM  Tue Dec 24 18:27:01 2002
From: gzook at YAHOO.COM (Glen Zook)
Date: Tue Dec 24 16:27:01 2002 MST
Subject: GB> technical help needed
In-Reply-To: <3E08E702.5ADDE35D@networld.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.13418.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


It varies all over the place!  You can start with 0.1
wavelength, but the placement, length, etc., will
affect the feedpoint impedance as well as the forward
gain and front-to-back ratio.

You really need one of the modeling programs.  I think
that yagimax is still available at qrz.com.  This will
give you the means to determine all sorts of
parameters.

Glen, K9STH


--- rayfri <rayfri at networld.com> wrote:

Whats the formula or method for determining how far
behind a driven element the reflector should go?

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From rjett1 at EARTHLINK.NET  Tue Dec 24 16:47:23 2002
From: rjett1 at EARTHLINK.NET (Robert H. Jett)
Date: Tue Dec 24 14:47:23 2002 MST
Subject: Heathkit Gear
Message-ID: <mailman.13419.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Hello All,
Looking for a power supply and a speaker to buy for the Heathkit HW-101.
Please email me direct. Thanks
Respectfully
Robert H. Jett K?YBN
rjett1 at earthlink.net

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From crawfish at SURFMORE.NET  Tue Dec 24 20:32:49 2002
From: crawfish at SURFMORE.NET (Crawfish)
Date: Tue Dec 24 18:32:49 2002 MST
Subject: GB> technical help needed
Message-ID: <mailman.13420.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Most of the info I have seen show 0.2 wavelength spacing between the driven
element and the reflector, and .1 to .15 wavelength spacing between the
driven element and the director, and .1 to .15 wavelength spacing between
directors.
                                                                    73,
                                                                    Joe
W4AAB
----- Original Message -----
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Subject: GB> technical help needed


> need some advice.  Whats the formula or method for determining how far
> behind a driven element the reflector should go?
> I'm building a 20 meter beam.  The driven element will be a shortened
> one...
> a dipole 102 inches on each side with loading coils on each half of the
> dipole at the
> feedpoint.  I know that reflectors are usually 5 percent longer than the
> driven element, but I need to know the formula or method for figuring
> how far behind the
> driven element to put a reflector.
> Ray  wa7itz
>
>

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From w1id at FCGNETWORKS.NET  Wed Dec 25 09:03:04 2002
From: w1id at FCGNETWORKS.NET (Gerald C. Lemay)
Date: Wed Dec 25 07:03:04 2002 MST
Subject: GB> technical help needed
In-Reply-To: <20021224232701.54243.qmail@web40204.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.13421.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Several years ago, I used Yagimax to model and fine tune several 2 element
yagis. It was an excellent tool. There was also a utility called Taper which
was used to determine correct element length depending on tubing size. I
(dimly) seem to remember that .1 wavelength gave me the most gain. But then
gain, front to back, and bandwidth varied with frequency and none of them
converged at the same point. When you get down to it, designing  a good
performer is more than just putting up something based on a rule-of-thumb.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV]On Behalf Of Glen Zook
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 6:27 PM
To: HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV
Subject: Re: GB> technical help needed


It varies all over the place!  You can start with 0.1
wavelength, but the placement, length, etc., will
affect the feedpoint impedance as well as the forward
gain and front-to-back ratio.

You really need one of the modeling programs.  I think
that yagimax is still available at qrz.com.  This will
give you the means to determine all sorts of
parameters.

Glen, K9STH


--- rayfri <rayfri at networld.com> wrote:

Whats the formula or method for determining how far
behind a driven element the reflector should go?

=====
Glen, K9STH

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http://home.attbi.com/~zcomco

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From gharmon at IDWORLD.NET  Wed Dec 25 09:44:15 2002
From: gharmon at IDWORLD.NET (Gary Harmon)
Date: Wed Dec 25 07:44:15 2002 MST
Subject: Need Dial Parts From SB-Series
Message-ID: <mailman.13422.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


I'm restoring a SB-110A and just discovered that the little wheel/shaft
that moves the calibrator scale is not original and probably explains
why it does work as expected.  This part from any SB-Series
transmitter/receiver/transceiver will work.  I could probably also use
the calibrator plastic as well.

Does anyone have these parts out there?  Pay cash or trade.

Thanks and Happy Holidays!

73, gary

=======================
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From brianmwood at EMAIL.MSN.COM  Wed Dec 25 14:39:49 2002
From: brianmwood at EMAIL.MSN.COM (Brian Wood)
Date: Wed Dec 25 12:39:49 2002 MST
Subject: GB> technical help needed
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In my article on the "DZ3" 3-element 5-band "monobander" (July, 2001 QST), I
used the dimensions given by W2PV in an Antenna Book article. He used 0.2005
wavelengths for driven element to 1st director and 0.1235 wavelengths for
driven element to reflector spacing, with element lengths slightly lesss
than 1/2 wavelength. I modeled it on Brian Beezley's "YO" program and got a
respectable front-to-back and gain on each band.

Fluidmotion, on the other hand, chose to use an identical spacing for the
two distances just mentioned, since they can adjust element length
dynamically.

73,

Brian, W0DZ

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[mailto:HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV]On Behalf Of Crawfish
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 6:33 PM
To: HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV
Subject: Re: GB> technical help needed


Most of the info I have seen show 0.2 wavelength spacing between the driven
element and the reflector, and .1 to .15 wavelength spacing between the
driven element and the director, and .1 to .15 wavelength spacing between
directors.
                                                                    73,
                                                                    Joe
W4AAB
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To: <glowbugs at piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu>; <HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV>
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 3:00 PM
Subject: GB> technical help needed


> need some advice.  Whats the formula or method for determining how far
> behind a driven element the reflector should go?
> I'm building a 20 meter beam.  The driven element will be a shortened
> one...
> a dipole 102 inches on each side with loading coils on each half of the
> dipole at the
> feedpoint.  I know that reflectors are usually 5 percent longer than the
> driven element, but I need to know the formula or method for figuring
> how far behind the
> driven element to put a reflector.
> Ray  wa7itz
>
>

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From radiorepair at MINDSPRING.COM  Thu Dec 26 04:28:51 2002
From: radiorepair at MINDSPRING.COM (Malcolm Leonard)
Date: Thu Dec 26 02:28:51 2002 MST
Subject: Need to know abiut Heath frequency counters
Message-ID: <mailman.13424.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Can somebody give a brief description of each of the Benton Harbor frequency counters please?

Frequency range, features,etc.
Thanks,
Malcolm Leonard

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From jbkking at BELLSOUTH.NET  Thu Dec 26 09:08:46 2002
From: jbkking at BELLSOUTH.NET (john w. king)
Date: Thu Dec 26 07:08:46 2002 MST
Subject: SB 220 Switches
Message-ID: <mailman.13425.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Need on/off rocker switch for Hseath SB 220. Are they available from a
supply house as direct replacements?? If so please advise who and where.

If new direct replacement rocker switches are not available, does anyone
have any used replacement rocker switches they will sell me? Please advise.
Thanks and 73, John, K5PGW

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From neilsmorr at HOTMAIL.COM  Thu Dec 26 15:27:04 2002
From: neilsmorr at HOTMAIL.COM (Neil Morrison)
Date: Thu Dec 26 13:27:04 2002 MST
Subject: Repair kit for Heathkit Multiband TR/RX
Message-ID: <mailman.13426.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


*** NOT SOLD BY ME ***

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1947682111

Reparatur-Kit f?r Heathkit Multiband-TRX

(approx. US $15.48 )

Seller ships internationally (worldwide).

Description

Repair kit for Heathkit HW 100/101 and SELF-service 100 - 102.
Consists of:
1.) three drive belts fresh from the factory (no camp commodity, new
manufacturing) for driver/press lector and load tuning of the output
stage (alone the drive belts with 9,00 euro in ebay offered).
2.) a coupling sleeve of the drive axle to the Anodendrehko, teflon,
properly matching turned, with brass cases and 3mm set-screws.
3.) Two temperature-firm electrolytic capacitors (47 UF, 400 V d.c.)
in the old cups, again poured. The buyer commits itself to send its
old cups back within four weeks at his expense as letter (1.53 euro).
4.) Volume potentiometer of 500 kOhm logs, with power switch and 6.35
mm of axle for US devices. Military quality, with water resistant
execution, likewise again and unused. (the potentiometer is to be
used likewise very well for the devices of the self-service series,
if the power switch at the Functionsschalter is defective) insured
dispatch 6.50 euro, when desired the buyer and on its risk 4.50 euro.

Regards,

Neil

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From WA2KBZ at AOL.COM  Fri Dec 27 02:15:37 2002
From: WA2KBZ at AOL.COM (Karl Schulte)
Date: Fri Dec 27 00:15:37 2002 MST
Subject: AR3
Message-ID: <mailman.13427.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


My first receiver and it was a nice one. I built it carefully with a more
experienced buddy supervising, when I was 14. Worked right away. Below 20 M
was pretty good, like S-38, maybe a bit better. Heard off-ham stuff like the
Texas Tower sinking off Sandy Hook, NJ (all hands lost; all on 2182 KHz, in
1960). Worke3d a lot of hams around USA and Europe with it and my ARC-5 plus
HB 807 rig. The alignement is tricky on upper band. Suggest you download
manual from net to get tracking right. I have 2, one is fair and other is
junk (full of rust, parts only); got both on net, caveat emptor (buyer
beware).  The one I have is not as good as my old one which I foolishly sold.
The AT-1 was my 1st rig , on loan before I built mine and then got an 80 m
Arc-5. A buddy (my "Elmer") worked over 2000 counties and WAS and DXCC with
the pair. It was a useful beginners pair.  Good luck with yours. Alot of guys
used a 455 KHz Arc-5 rcvr as a "Q5'er" tunable IF with the AR-3 and I had an
old plastic vernier added to front of main tuning for sloww tune. When alined
right, dial was fairly on, and decent sens. on all but highest band.

73

Karl

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From wa7zze at JUNO.COM  Fri Dec 27 08:33:08 2002
From: wa7zze at JUNO.COM (Chuck Penson)
Date: Fri Dec 27 06:33:08 2002 MST
Subject: SB-620 connection?
Message-ID: <mailman.13428.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


In February 1970 CQ magazine (page 89) is an article about a better
connection for the SB-620 than the one prescribed by Heath.

If it is simple enough to describe I would appreciate if someone could
tell me how to make this connection. Otherwise, if someone could make a
copy of the article for me?

Cheers,

Chuck / WA7ZZE

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From w0tut at COMCAST.NET  Fri Dec 27 13:41:35 2002
From: w0tut at COMCAST.NET (joe)
Date: Fri Dec 27 11:41:35 2002 MST
Subject: SB-620 connection?
Message-ID: <mailman.13429.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


And  as I have two of these sb-620s plan on painting one Collins colors as
soon as I get the both working.

 What best way to connect to a Collins 51s-1 for pan adapter type
reception??

 Sorry no 1970 isssue of cq.

73 de Joe w0tut

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Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 7:33 AM
Subject: SB-620 connection?


> In February 1970 CQ magazine (page 89) is an article about a better
> connection for the SB-620 than the one prescribed by Heath.
>
> If it is simple enough to describe I would appreciate if someone could
> tell me how to make this connection. Otherwise, if someone could make a
> copy of the article for me?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chuck / WA7ZZE
>
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From prosolar at SSSNET.COM  Fri Dec 27 14:41:27 2002
From: prosolar at SSSNET.COM (mike bryce)
Date: Fri Dec 27 12:41:27 2002 MST
Subject: heathkit  hw-101, sb-101 and sb102 lever knob
Message-ID: <mailman.13430.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Boys and girls...

I am working with a company that may be able to make the cs ssb lever knob
that so many of us need.

they will fire up the injection molding machine for as little as a 500 pc
run.

the charges are as follows:

model charge
set up charge
run charge based on piece count

right now, I don't have any numbers to give you, but gut feeling is the
knobs will be between $6 and $8 each...

the knob will fit the hw 101 and the rest of the sb series. it's also used
in some of the monitor scopes as well.

I know I'll get burnt on this offer, but I really need to know if there is
enough interest at $6-$8 each to go after this in more detail.

If there is little interest here in a group of over 600 hams that collect
heathkits then I have my doubts that the general ham population will be
interested either.

So, there you have it.. let me know one way or the other..


Mike Bryce WB8VGE
SunLight Energy Systems

http://www.seslogic.com
http://www.theheathkitshop.com

"Electricity at the speed of light"

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From prosolar at SSSNET.COM  Fri Dec 27 14:45:19 2002
From: prosolar at SSSNET.COM (mike bryce)
Date: Fri Dec 27 12:45:19 2002 MST
Subject: heathkit hp23 replacement pc boards..
Message-ID: <mailman.13431.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


   Boys and girls.

the ARRL has picked up my article on the Heathkit HP23 replacement board. I
don't know exactly when it will be published, but they have told me sometime
early this year.

There will NOT be a second run of PC boards made. If you want one, I would
consider getting the board  before the article hits.

Here's the url to refresh everyone's memory

http://www.theheathkitshop.com/hp23pc.html

Mike Bryce WB8VGE
SunLight Energy Systems

http://www.seslogic.com
http://www.theheathkitshop.com

"Electricity at the speed of light"

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From prosolar at SSSNET.COM  Fri Dec 27 14:51:39 2002
From: prosolar at SSSNET.COM (mike bryce)
Date: Fri Dec 27 12:51:39 2002 MST
Subject: Heathkit sb104 display boards
Message-ID: <mailman.13432.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Boys and girls...

This winter I will make a very limited run of display boards for the
Heathkit SB104 and SB104a. This display board used common LEDs and not the
gas discharge tubes that are getting so hard to come by.

a very limited run of 15-25 boards will be produced unless i hear from you
guys other wise

here's the url for more info...

http://www.theheathkitshop.com/104dis.html

Mike Bryce WB8VGE
SunLight Energy Systems

http://www.seslogic.com
http://www.theheathkitshop.com

"Electricity at the speed of light"

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From ke1fr at GIS.NET  Fri Dec 27 17:24:44 2002
From: ke1fr at GIS.NET (Robert Bertrand)
Date: Fri Dec 27 15:24:44 2002 MST
Subject: help
Message-ID: <mailman.13433.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Hello all,
can anyone tell me what the extender boards for a sb303 are worth?
also a electrovoice 638 mike?
thank you,

Robert Bertrand - Ke1fr
P.O.Box 259
Charlemont,Ma 01339

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From wn2sqc at JUNO.COM  Fri Dec 27 18:29:57 2002
From: wn2sqc at JUNO.COM (Ken Dupuis Wn2Sqc)
Date: Fri Dec 27 16:29:57 2002 MST
Subject: SB-620 connection?
Message-ID: <mailman.13434.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Hi Chuck, by golly I got it. The 1970 pg. 89 article says, "The Heath
SB-620 Scanalyzer is normally to be connected to the plate of the
receiver mixer tube associated with the receiver VFO. Somewhat better
performance with the HW-100 and SB-101 transceivers may be had by
connecting the SB-620 input to the unused winding (terminals 2-3) 0n T201
which tunes the plate of the second receiver mizer, V12A. To do this,
install a phono jack next to the ALC jack (on the HW-100). Connect a
short piece of shielded cable (such as RG-58 or RG-59) between the jack
(with the cable shield grounded at the jack) and the unused terminals
that pop up through the unsoldered holes at the bottom of the printed
circuit board below T201. Solder the cable shield to one terminal and the
center conducter to the other terminal. A light realignment of T201 may
be needed during operation. The modification eliminates the drop in pip
level on the SB-620 (due to the low impedance of the reciever filter)
when the signal is tuned in; however, the pip level may drop somewhat due
to AGC action. See the discussion on this in the Q&A column for October
1969, page 72."  If you want I can make photo copys and send it via snail
mail, is this okay and are you good on QRZ for an address?  BTW, the 1969
inside front cover shows the SB-101 at $370 a copy, wow, that was two
weeks pay, before taxes. Let me know, 73 Ken

On Fri, 27 Dec 2002 05:33:08 PST Chuck Penson <wa7zze at JUNO.COM> writes:
> In February 1970 CQ magazine (page 89) is an article about a better
> connection for the SB-620 than the one prescribed by Heath.
>
> If it is simple enough to describe I would appreciate if someone
> could
> tell me how to make this connection. Otherwise, if someone could
> make a
> copy of the article for me?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chuck / WA7ZZE
>
>

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From crandall at EE.NET  Fri Dec 27 20:26:00 2002
From: crandall at EE.NET (Rob Crandall W8CRZ)
Date: Fri Dec 27 18:26:00 2002 MST
Subject: heathkit  hw-101, sb-101 and sb102 lever knob
Message-ID: <mailman.13435.1294703101.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Speaking for myself I would be interested in atleast 2 maybe more if the
price is right. Just my input.
Rob W8CRZ
----- Original Message -----
From: "mike bryce" <prosolar at SSSNET.COM>
To: <HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV>
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 2:41 PM
Subject: heathkit hw-101, sb-101 and sb102 lever knob


> Boys and girls...
>
> I am working with a company that may be able to make the cs ssb lever knob
> that so many of us need.
>
> they will fire up the injection molding machine for as little as a 500 pc
> run.
>
> the charges are as follows:
>
> model charge
> set up charge
> run charge based on piece count
>
> right now, I don't have any numbers to give you, but gut feeling is the
> knobs will be between $6 and $8 each...
>
> the knob will fit the hw 101 and the rest of the sb series. it's also used
> in some of the monitor scopes as well.
>
> I know I'll get burnt on this offer, but I really need to know if there is
> enough interest at $6-$8 each to go after this in more detail.
>
> If there is little interest here in a group of over 600 hams that collect
> heathkits then I have my doubts that the general ham population will be
> interested either.
>
> So, there you have it.. let me know one way or the other..
>
>
> Mike Bryce WB8VGE
> SunLight Energy Systems
>
> http://www.seslogic.com
> http://www.theheathkitshop.com
>
> "Electricity at the speed of light"
>
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From tlee at WCOIL.COM  Fri Dec 27 19:58:43 2002
From: tlee at WCOIL.COM (tlee)
Date: Fri Dec 27 17:58:43 2002 MST
Subject: FS: SB-201 amplifier - needs tubes
Message-ID: <mailman.13436.1294703102.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


SB-201 amplifier in good shape.  Meter has been replaced with a third party meter but looks good and has Heath  meter face on it.  Low output--tubes may need replaced.  Around 2300 volts on the plate. $250 -- pickup only in NW Ohio area. I don't want to ship this.

73  Ted  N8GPQ
Ada, OH  45810

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From howardw7ilw at EARTHLINK.NET  Fri Dec 27 17:10:49 2002
From: howardw7ilw at EARTHLINK.NET (Howard W7ILW)
Date: Fri Dec 27 15:10:49 2002 MST
Subject: heathkit  hw-101, sb-101 and sb102 lever knob
In-Reply-To: <BA321717.1EAE4%prosolar@sssnet.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.13437.1294703102.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Mike,

> "the cs ssb lever knob"

Is this the same lever knob labled "cw ssb" which changes the filters.  I
put the kit on my SB 100 way back when which I still have and use
ocasionaly. Came back one week-end from Thule AFB, Greenland. Started it on
Friday night, finished it Sunday noon. Had to be at the Cleveland AP by
1700, so I plugged it in, turned it on and heard some signals on 20 mtrs.
Aligned it six weeks later!

73

Howard - W7ILW - Prescott, AZ
Ex - W8FDK

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From e.j.forwood at JUNO.COM  Sat Dec 28 12:15:17 2002
From: e.j.forwood at JUNO.COM (E. Jerold Forwood)
Date: Sat Dec 28 10:15:17 2002 MST
Subject: help
Message-ID: <mailman.13438.1294703102.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Heathkit SB Series Extender Cards for Service
Item # 2083563656

Watch the above listing and you will get an idea.
73's de Jerry, K?EJF

On Fri, 27 Dec 2002 17:24:44 -0500 Robert Bertrand <ke1fr at GIS.NET>
writes:
> Hello all,
> can anyone tell me what the extender boards for a sb303 are worth?
> also a electrovoice 638 mike?
> thank you,
>
> Robert Bertrand - Ke1fr
> P.O.Box 259
> Charlemont,Ma 01339
>
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From Dr.Groene at T-ONLINE.DE  Sat Dec 28 05:24:36 2002
From: Dr.Groene at T-ONLINE.DE (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Dr=2E_Wolf_Dietmar_Gr=F6ne=22?=)
Date: Sat Dec 28 03:24:36 2002 MST
Subject: HW-101, When Kit was produced?
Message-ID: <mailman.13439.1294703102.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Hallo fiends..

I have buyed a HW 101..
The Serial-Nr. is 22744..
Is it possible to read from the serial-nr. the year of purchase the kit?

Happy new year to all


Dietmar
DK3BG

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From nb9m at RELIABLE-NET.NET  Sat Dec 28 14:24:09 2002
From: nb9m at RELIABLE-NET.NET (Bradley Stone)
Date: Sat Dec 28 12:24:09 2002 MST
Subject: HW-101, When Kit was produced?
In-Reply-To: <3E0D7BE4.6050109@t-online.de>
Message-ID: <mailman.13440.1294703102.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


According to Chuck Penson (HEATHKIT: A Guide to Amateur Radio Products) the
HW-100 was produced from 1968 to 1970, and the HW-101 was produced from 1970
to 1983 - a total of 13 years!  The HW-101 may be the most popular
transceiver ever produced - even taking into account the Yaesu FT-101 and
the Kenwood TS-series.

Mine is almost ready for straight-key night, but will check into the vintage
sideband net tomorrow on 20 USB.

CUL
Brad, NB9M

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[mailto:HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV]On Behalf Of Dr. Wolf Dietmar Grone
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 05:25
To: HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV
Subject: HW-101, When Kit was produced?


Hallo fiends..

I have buyed a HW 101..
The Serial-Nr. is 22744..
Is it possible to read from the serial-nr. the year of purchase the kit?

Happy new year to all


Dietmar
DK3BG

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From prosolar at SSSNET.COM  Sat Dec 28 13:59:43 2002
From: prosolar at SSSNET.COM (mike bryce)
Date: Sat Dec 28 11:59:43 2002 MST
Subject: Heathkit SB-104 display boards
Message-ID: <mailman.13441.1294703102.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Boys and girls...

Looks like there is enough interest for a very limited run of display boards for the SB-104.

Here's the poop

only 25 will be made

price will be $15.00 each  plus $150 shipping for first class mail

the total for the boards came to $14.72. that's including the tooling, setup charges and photoplots. So, bottom line, I am making a whopping .28 on each pc board. Guess I had better stay with the day job!

Some of you asked about a kit of parts. I'll look into it, but for right now, only the pc board will be offered.

it will be two to three weeks before the boards are done.

Mike, WB8VGE

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From gzook at YAHOO.COM  Sat Dec 28 15:51:54 2002
From: gzook at YAHOO.COM (Glen Zook)
Date: Sat Dec 28 13:51:54 2002 MST
Subject: HG-10 Dials
Message-ID: <mailman.13442.1294703102.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


I haven't received the dial to use as the model for
the artwork for the new overlays and new dials for the
HG-10.  Therefore, I'll make the same offer that I
made before:

If someone will loan me a dial drum from the HG-10 to
use as the model, I will furnish them with a new drum
and return the old one as well.  The drum that I use
doesn't have to be "mint".  All I need is to be able
to scan each scale and then use that as a basis for a
new computer generated version.  The drum can be
cracked, have pieces missing (so long as the scales
are relatively intact), etc.

I already have the artwork done and overlays and
complete drums available for the Apache, Mohawk,
Cheyenne, and Comanche.  Those are listed on one of my
websites, http://home.attbi.com/~zcomco if anyone is
interested in them.

Glen, K9STH

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From ke4mg at YAHOO.COM  Sat Dec 28 17:39:41 2002
From: ke4mg at YAHOO.COM (ken kuzma)
Date: Sat Dec 28 15:39:41 2002 MST
Subject: Parting out DX-35
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Parting out a DX-35//All parts available except
meter,knobs and power transformer. Let me know if you
need anything.

Thanks
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From prosolar at SSSNET.COM  Sat Dec 28 21:55:08 2002
From: prosolar at SSSNET.COM (mike bryce)
Date: Sat Dec 28 19:55:08 2002 MST
Subject: sb104 display board
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well shucks.. 

thought I had a sure way to get my production costs back..

no, it's $1.50 for shipping and NOT $150 shipping.

mike..WB8VGE

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From mvjohn at SYMPATICO.CA  Sun Dec 29 14:24:41 2002
From: mvjohn at SYMPATICO.CA (Mark V. Johnson)
Date: Sun Dec 29 12:24:41 2002 MST
Subject: SB-401 CW Chirp problem
Message-ID: <mailman.13445.1294703102.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Wondering if anyone has had problems with "Chirp" reports using  an
SB-401/SB-301 combo. I've gotten them  (chirp reports) on 20 and 15
meters lately and I have it narrowed down to the  Het Osc in the SB-301.

When I listen to my signal  on another receiver while transmitting into
a dummy load, I can hear the frequency shift enough to be "chirpy". When
I transmit using only the SB-401 in stand alone (I have the optional
Xtal pac) the chirp goes away.

I did find that the SB-301 Het OSc adjustment has an effect. It seems
that if you have the Het Osc adjustment too high, it  causes the
chirp...Must be over driving the  transmitter. Yet, the manuals
(SB-301/401) have you adjust the Het Osc coils in the SB-301 for maximum
grid drive in transmit on teh SB-401. When I back them off and adjust to
the spec's listed in the receiver (less than -3VDC at the  Het Osc test
point), the chirp goes away, yet the Sb-401 grid drive is not at maximum.

Seems these combo's (sb-301/401) are very adjustment sensitive....

The Het Osc circuit in the SB-301 seems to be OK...Tube (6AB4)  is new
and has good gain, voltages are to spec....The 6AW8 Het Osc amp in the
SB-401 is good...Voltages are fine.......I'm using RG-62 cut to the
proper length.....When I scope the Het Osc signal, it looks
fine....Symmetrical Sine Wave...No crap...


Anyone have similiar expereince??? Many Thanks!!

MV Johnson VE3DJU/VE3DDI

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From jw.siebelink at WXS.NL  Sun Dec 29 14:40:19 2002
From: jw.siebelink at WXS.NL (J. W. Siebelink)
Date: Sun Dec 29 12:40:19 2002 MST
Subject: seneca doc
Message-ID: <mailman.13446.1294703102.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Hello friends,

Does someone have schematic or other doc from a VHF-1. I have bought one, but it lacks the internal supply.

Hans

PA0CTV

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From ke1fr at GIS.NET  Sun Dec 29 15:37:31 2002
From: ke1fr at GIS.NET (Robert Bertrand)
Date: Sun Dec 29 13:37:31 2002 MST
Subject: For Sale
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Hello all,
I finally went through most of my stash and here is what i have for sale so far.

Manuals;

1)  Hm-102  $5.00 Shipped.
2)  Hw -12   $7.00 + Shipping.
3)  IG-42     $5.00 + shipping (Photo Copy ) 
4) Transistor Receiver Model XR-2P and XR-2L
$5.00 shipped......

Gear:
1)  HD-15 Hybrid Phone Patch w/Man..
exc condition,does have one small ding near meter on top...
but almost a near #10..
asking $35.00 + shipping...

2) HP-23a Pwr supply w/sb600 spkr and man..
case needs Paint..
asking $65.00 + shipping..

3) SB-401 Transmitter..w/ man and Cables..
no output..
front panel looks ok.Case needs paint..
and the manual is a tad rough,but readable..
asking $50.00 + shipping..

4) Sb 303 w/man and extender Boards..
the Large extender Board is cracked,but epoxy should fix it..
the rig receives,but needs some work..
 the plastic follower for  the dial is missing and it needs alignment.
Front Panel looks ok and again the Case needs Paint and the Manual rough but readable..
asking $45.00 + shipping..

thats it for now ,but still going through things..
thanks all,

Robert Bertrand - Ke1fr
P.O.Box 259
Charlemont,Ma 01339

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From rfb100 at CUISP.COM  Sun Dec 29 17:17:11 2002
From: rfb100 at CUISP.COM (Richard Bidwell)
Date: Sun Dec 29 15:17:11 2002 MST
Subject: Request
Message-ID: <mailman.13448.1294703102.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Hi  --  Happy New Year to all.  Now for  the serious stuff.  This isn't Ham-related but maybe someone out there can point me in a good direction.  I'm looking for a mid-1950s BC-1 or 1A AM tuner.  This unit was part of my first Heathkit in that era and I am reassebling the pieces.  I have all the electronics except for this unit and a speaker  (I had built an SS-1), but there seems to a scarcity of AM tuners on ebay.   You all are probably aware that big changes are coming in broadcast radio, both AM and FM, in the next few months and I expect (hope?) there will be front-end add-on converter boxes available to take advantage of the changes.  Even if not, the signal-handling quality of this system should far outdistance the current crop of radios.  And if it doesn't, well, the nostalgia makes it worthwhile for me.  Any advice or guidance will be most appreciated.  Cheers, Dick B.  

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From rjett1 at EARTHLINK.NET  Sun Dec 29 13:30:48 2002
From: rjett1 at EARTHLINK.NET (Robert H. Jett)
Date: Sun Dec 29 11:30:48 2002 MST
Subject: Heathkit Knob
Message-ID: <mailman.13449.1294703102.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


To Mike Bryce WB8VGE
I would like to purchase 2 of the knobs please.
Thanks...
73's 
Robert H. Jett
K?YBN
k0ybn at earthlink.net
12:30 PM
Sunday, December 29, 2002

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From ke1fr at GIS.NET  Sun Dec 29 19:40:24 2002
From: ke1fr at GIS.NET (Robert Bertrand)
Date: Sun Dec 29 17:40:24 2002 MST
Subject: for sale update
Message-ID: <mailman.13450.1294703102.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Hello all,
I finally went through most of my stash and here is what i have for sale so far.

Manuals;

1)  Hm-102  $5.00 Shipped.
2)  Hw -12   $7.00 + Shipping.
3)  IG-42     $5.00 + shipping (Photo Copy ) 
4) Transistor Receiver Model XR-2P and XR-2L
$5.00 shipped......

Gear:
1)  HD-15 Hybrid Phone Patch w/Man..
exc condition,does have one small ding near meter on top...
but almost a near #10..
asking $35.00 + shipping...

2) HP-23a ..(SOLD)

3) SB-401 Transmitter..w/ man and Cables..
no output..
front panel looks ok.Case needs paint..
and the manual is a tad rough,but readable..
asking $50.00 + shipping..

4) Sb 303  (SOLD)
 asking $45.00 + shipping..

thats it for now ,but still going through things..
thanks all,

Robert Bertrand - Ke1fr
P.O.Box 259
Charlemont,Ma 01339

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From ke1fr at GIS.NET  Sun Dec 29 19:47:12 2002
From: ke1fr at GIS.NET (Robert Bertrand)
Date: Sun Dec 29 17:47:12 2002 MST
Subject: more for sale
Message-ID: <mailman.13451.1294703102.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Hello all,
well here is a tad more i found..

1) HW-12  VFO w/dial and drive unit..
$15.00 Shipped...

2) my last Pwr supply

Heath HP -23..w/man
works and is now wired for a HW-12a... 
of course needs Paint and is missing the off/on light..
but i have been using it on my HW12a..
asking $40.00 + shipping..

thanks again,
Bob

Robert Bertrand - Ke1fr
P.O.Box 259
Charlemont,Ma 01339

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From hiddenhills at SURFMORE.NET  Sun Dec 29 19:55:30 2002
From: hiddenhills at SURFMORE.NET (Robert Keeble)
Date: Sun Dec 29 17:55:30 2002 MST
Subject: Heathkit knobs
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To Mike Bryce WB8VGE:

Mike, I would sign up for 4 knobs.

Bob keeble,  KG4NVX

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From wb8jkr at JUNO.COM  Sun Dec 29 19:56:02 2002
From: wb8jkr at JUNO.COM (Mark Graalman WB8JKR)
Date: Sun Dec 29 17:56:02 2002 MST
Subject: SB-401 CW Chirp problem
Message-ID: <mailman.13453.1294703102.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


 Mark,

 You do not adjust the coils for maximum grid drive, you
adjust the coils for a .5 ma (midscale) reading on the
401 grid meter with the drive level control at 12:00


73,  Mark WB8JKR

Member ARRL, QCWA, OTC, Society of Cable Telecommunication Engineers
WAS, WAC, WTO, DXCC, GJDXCC, VUCC 2M
Novice 3/71, General 8/72, Advanced 8/79, Extra 8/89


On Sun, 29 Dec 2002 14:24:41 -0500 "Mark V. Johnson"
<mvjohn at SYMPATICO.CA> writes:
> Wondering if anyone has had problems with "Chirp" reports using  an
> SB-401/SB-301 combo. I've gotten them  (chirp reports) on 20 and 15
> meters lately and I have it narrowed down to the  Het Osc in the
> SB-301.
>
> When I listen to my signal  on another receiver while transmitting
> into
> a dummy load, I can hear the frequency shift enough to be "chirpy".
> When
> I transmit using only the SB-401 in stand alone (I have the optional
> Xtal pac) the chirp goes away.
>
> I did find that the SB-301 Het OSc adjustment has an effect. It
> seems
> that if you have the Het Osc adjustment too high, it  causes the
> chirp...Must be over driving the  transmitter. Yet, the manuals
> (SB-301/401) have you adjust the Het Osc coils in the SB-301 for
> maximum
> grid drive in transmit on teh SB-401. When I back them off and
> adjust to
> the spec's listed in the receiver (less than -3VDC at the  Het Osc
> test
> point), the chirp goes away, yet the Sb-401 grid drive is not at
> maximum.
>
> Seems these combo's (sb-301/401) are very adjustment sensitive....
>
> The Het Osc circuit in the SB-301 seems to be OK...Tube (6AB4)  is
> new
> and has good gain, voltages are to spec....The 6AW8 Het Osc amp in
> the
> SB-401 is good...Voltages are fine.......I'm using RG-62 cut to the
> proper length.....When I scope the Het Osc signal, it looks
> fine....Symmetrical Sine Wave...No crap...
>
>
> Anyone have similiar expereince??? Many Thanks!!
>
> MV Johnson VE3DJU/VE3DDI
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From wb8jkr at JUNO.COM  Sun Dec 29 19:58:01 2002
From: wb8jkr at JUNO.COM (Mark Graalman WB8JKR)
Date: Sun Dec 29 17:58:01 2002 MST
Subject: SB-401 CW Chirp problem
Message-ID: <mailman.13454.1294703102.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


 Oops, I shoud have stated, the procedure I just
mentioned is outlined on page 96 of the 401 manual.

73,  Mark WB8JKR

Member ARRL, QCWA, OTC, Society of Cable Telecommunication Engineers
WAS, WAC, WTO, DXCC, GJDXCC, VUCC 2M
Novice 3/71, General 8/72, Advanced 8/79, Extra 8/89


On Sun, 29 Dec 2002 14:24:41 -0500 "Mark V. Johnson"
<mvjohn at SYMPATICO.CA> writes:
> Wondering if anyone has had problems with "Chirp" reports using  an
> SB-401/SB-301 combo. I've gotten them  (chirp reports) on 20 and 15
> meters lately and I have it narrowed down to the  Het Osc in the
> SB-301.
>
> When I listen to my signal  on another receiver while transmitting
> into
> a dummy load, I can hear the frequency shift enough to be "chirpy".
> When
> I transmit using only the SB-401 in stand alone (I have the optional
> Xtal pac) the chirp goes away.
>
> I did find that the SB-301 Het OSc adjustment has an effect. It
> seems
> that if you have the Het Osc adjustment too high, it  causes the
> chirp...Must be over driving the  transmitter. Yet, the manuals
> (SB-301/401) have you adjust the Het Osc coils in the SB-301 for
> maximum
> grid drive in transmit on teh SB-401. When I back them off and
> adjust to
> the spec's listed in the receiver (less than -3VDC at the  Het Osc
> test
> point), the chirp goes away, yet the Sb-401 grid drive is not at
> maximum.
>
> Seems these combo's (sb-301/401) are very adjustment sensitive....
>
> The Het Osc circuit in the SB-301 seems to be OK...Tube (6AB4)  is
> new
> and has good gain, voltages are to spec....The 6AW8 Het Osc amp in
> the
> SB-401 is good...Voltages are fine.......I'm using RG-62 cut to the
> proper length.....When I scope the Het Osc signal, it looks
> fine....Symmetrical Sine Wave...No crap...
>
>
> Anyone have similiar expereince??? Many Thanks!!
>
> MV Johnson VE3DJU/VE3DDI
>
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From Lew28 at AOL.COM  Sun Dec 29 20:57:50 2002
From: Lew28 at AOL.COM (Lew28 at AOL.COM)
Date: Sun Dec 29 18:57:50 2002 MST
Subject: ID-4001 Weather Station
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Greetings Keepers of the Green!

I have a quick question....Does anyone know the value of an unbuilt new in
box ID-4001 Weather station and a new box of the Heath cable for it?  Any
info is appreciated!

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From GeiselD at AOL.COM  Sun Dec 29 21:13:47 2002
From: GeiselD at AOL.COM (Darwin D. Geiselbrecht)
Date: Sun Dec 29 19:13:47 2002 MST
Subject: SB-401 CW Chirp problem
Message-ID: <mailman.13456.1294703102.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


I know this sounds a bit far fetched. But in my case, I traced this problem
to the fact that the het osc is not fed from a source of regulated voltage.
As I remember,  the stock SB-301 lacks Bplus regulation of any kind.  In my
case, the source of power to the station (years ago) was kind of soft such
that the RX Bplus dropped when the TX was keyed.  I installed a OA2 regulator
on a small metal bracket under the chassis to clear the problem.  However, if
the cause is similiar, you might try a simpler approach by ensuring that the
source of power to the rx and tx are as separate as possible (i.e. for sure
don't feed them from a common power strip).  Just a hint from my experience,
your mileage may vary.

Good luck 73 - Darwin K5DOA

PS - the equivalent het osc in the 401 has a regulator. Hence no issue when
operating standalone.

In a message dated 12/29/02 18:08:06 PM Central Standard Time,
mvjohn at SYMPATICO.CA writes:

<< Wondering if anyone has had problems with "Chirp" reports using  an
 SB-401/SB-301 combo. I've gotten them  (chirp reports) on 20 and 15
 meters lately and I have it narrowed down to the  Het Osc in the SB-301.

 When I listen to my signal  on another receiver while transmitting into
 a dummy load, I can hear the frequency shift enough to be "chirpy". When
 I transmit using only the SB-401 in stand alone (I have the optional
 Xtal pac) the chirp goes away. >>

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From gharmon at IDWORLD.NET  Sun Dec 29 22:03:05 2002
From: gharmon at IDWORLD.NET (Gary Harmon)
Date: Sun Dec 29 20:03:05 2002 MST
Subject: Wanted:  GC-1A Mohican Manual
Message-ID: <mailman.13457.1294703102.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


I'm still looking for a nice original Heathkit Mohican GC-1A manual to
go into the loaner library.  Must have the foldout pages located between
the following pages:
15-16, 17-18, 31-32, 53-54, and the schematic.  No holes for notebook
mounting.  Will pay cash or trade.

Thanks and 73, gary

=======================
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6302 Robin Forest
San Antonio, TX 78239-3218
(210) 657-1549 <home>
(210) 884-6926 <cellular>
gharmon at idworld.net

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From tlee at WCOIL.COM  Sun Dec 29 21:06:01 2002
From: tlee at WCOIL.COM (tlee)
Date: Sun Dec 29 19:06:01 2002 MST
Subject: Need SB-200 parts
Message-ID: <mailman.13458.1294703102.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Need the following for an SB-200 amp

1.  Perforated internal HV meetal cover for amp
2. 40 meter tuned input coil

73  Ted  N8GPQ

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From eric_pierce at SYMPATICO.CA  Mon Dec 30 13:19:06 2002
From: eric_pierce at SYMPATICO.CA (Eric Pierce)
Date: Mon Dec 30 11:19:06 2002 MST
Subject: Where can I get empty vacuum tube boxes?
In-Reply-To: <002e01c2afa8$013df780$7a8a1141@pentiumii>
Message-ID: <mailman.13459.1294703102.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


I have a couple of boxes of loose tubes (mostly 7 and 9 pin miniature,
but some octal) that I want to sort and test.

What I am looking for is new or NOS "white" tube boxes so I can properly
mark and protect the ones I find good.

Had a google around the internet but could not seem to find a source,
does anyone know where I can get empty vacuum tube boxes?


Thanks

Eric Pierce VA3EP
www.thirdpla.net

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From wb9hgz at charlottesville.net  Mon Dec 30 15:34:07 2002
From: wb9hgz at charlottesville.net (Paul K. Dean)
Date: Mon Dec 30 13:34:07 2002 MST
Subject: Where can I get empty vacuum tube boxes?
In-Reply-To: <000001c2b02f$f0a40df0$c400a8c0@w2kserver>
Message-ID: <mailman.13460.1294703102.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


I buy them from Antique Electronic Supply in Arizona.  www.tubesandmore.com
 They stock new, generic white boxes in several sizes.

73,
Paul, wb9hgz

At 01:19 PM 12/30/02 -0500, Eric Pierce wrote:
>I have a couple of boxes of loose tubes (mostly 7 and 9 pin miniature,
>but some octal) that I want to sort and test.
>
>What I am looking for is new or NOS "white" tube boxes so I can properly
>mark and protect the ones I find good.
>
>Had a google around the internet but could not seem to find a source,
>does anyone know where I can get empty vacuum tube boxes?
>
>
>Thanks
>
>Eric Pierce VA3EP
>www.thirdpla.net
>
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From e.j.forwood at JUNO.COM  Mon Dec 30 16:16:22 2002
From: e.j.forwood at JUNO.COM (E. Jerold Forwood)
Date: Mon Dec 30 14:16:22 2002 MST
Subject: SB-401 CW Chirp problem
Message-ID: <mailman.13461.1294703102.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Chirps are usually caused by a shift in the voltage/amperage from the
power supply.
You might try watching the meter as you key the transmitter.
Or try using the xtals in the 401 by switching to the unlocked position
on the 401.
73's de Jerry, K?EJF

On Sun, 29 Dec 2002 14:24:41 -0500 "Mark V. Johnson"
<mvjohn at SYMPATICO.CA> writes:
> Wondering if anyone has had problems with "Chirp" reports using  an
> SB-401/SB-301 combo. I've gotten them  (chirp reports) on 20 and 15
> meters lately and I have it narrowed down to the  Het Osc in the
> SB-301.
>
> When I listen to my signal  on another receiver while transmitting
> into
> a dummy load, I can hear the frequency shift enough to be "chirpy".
> When
> I transmit using only the SB-401 in stand alone (I have the
> optional
> Xtal pac) the chirp goes away.
>
> I did find that the SB-301 Het OSc adjustment has an effect. It
> seems
> that if you have the Het Osc adjustment too high, it  causes the
> chirp...Must be over driving the  transmitter. Yet, the manuals
> (SB-301/401) have you adjust the Het Osc coils in the SB-301 for
> maximum
> grid drive in transmit on teh SB-401. When I back them off and
> adjust to
> the spec's listed in the receiver (less than -3VDC at the  Het Osc
> test
> point), the chirp goes away, yet the Sb-401 grid drive is not at
> maximum.
>
> Seems these combo's (sb-301/401) are very adjustment sensitive....
>
> The Het Osc circuit in the SB-301 seems to be OK...Tube (6AB4)  is
> new
> and has good gain, voltages are to spec....The 6AW8 Het Osc amp in
> the
> SB-401 is good...Voltages are fine.......I'm using RG-62 cut to the
> proper length.....When I scope the Het Osc signal, it looks
> fine....Symmetrical Sine Wave...No crap...
>
>
> Anyone have similiar expereince??? Many Thanks!!
>
> MV Johnson VE3DJU/VE3DDI
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From tlee at WCOIL.COM  Mon Dec 30 16:18:54 2002
From: tlee at WCOIL.COM (tlee)
Date: Mon Dec 30 14:18:54 2002 MST
Subject: NEEDED: SB-200 meter face
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I am in need of a SB-200 meter face or a non-working SB-200 meter with good meter face.  Let me know what you have.  I have an SB-220 Volt meter face I could trade.

73  Ted N8GPQ

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From tlee at WCOIL.COM  Mon Dec 30 20:39:08 2002
From: tlee at WCOIL.COM (tlee)
Date: Mon Dec 30 18:39:08 2002 MST
Subject: WTB: SB-300, SB-301, SB-303
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I am looking for one of the following receivers

SB-300, SB-301, or SB-303

State condition both electrically and physically and asking price.  Would take a fixer upper as long as it is repairable.

Ted  N8GPQ

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From radiorepair at MINDSPRING.COM  Tue Dec 31 04:49:11 2002
From: radiorepair at MINDSPRING.COM (Malcolm Leonard)
Date: Tue Dec 31 02:49:11 2002 MST
Subject: Where can I get empty vacuum tube boxes?
Message-ID: <mailman.13464.1294703102.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Try doctorroy1 at aol.com  .He is my tube guy and I believe he sells the empty
cartons also.Great guy to deal with,by the way.
Malcolm Leonard
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Pierce" <eric_pierce at SYMPATICO.CA>
To: <HEATH at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV>
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 10:19 AM
Subject: Where can I get empty vacuum tube boxes?


> I have a couple of boxes of loose tubes (mostly 7 and 9 pin miniature,
> but some octal) that I want to sort and test.
>
> What I am looking for is new or NOS "white" tube boxes so I can properly
> mark and protect the ones I find good.
>
> Had a google around the internet but could not seem to find a source,
> does anyone know where I can get empty vacuum tube boxes?
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Eric Pierce VA3EP
> www.thirdpla.net
>
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From WA6EQU at AOL.COM  Tue Dec 31 02:05:47 2002
From: WA6EQU at AOL.COM (WA6EQU at AOL.COM)
Date: Tue Dec 31 00:05:47 2002 MST
Subject: Heathkit ID-1590 Parts
Message-ID: <mailman.13465.1294703102.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


I'm looking for the masthead, specifically the Windspeed vane for a Heathkit
ID-1590. Does anyone know if these parts are still avaliable?

73, Jeff - WA6EQU
wa6equ at aol.com

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From rubenpastor at USA.COM  Tue Dec 31 02:16:57 2002
From: rubenpastor at USA.COM (ruben pastor)
Date: Tue Dec 31 00:16:57 2002 MST
Subject: RE. VACUUN TUBE BOXES.
Message-ID: <mailman.13466.1294703102.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


ERIC YOU CAN GET
EMPTY VACUUN TUBE
BOXES AT. ANTIQUE
ELECTRONIC
SUPPLY,PHONE
800-706-6789 OR
WWW.TUBESANDMORE.
COM THANK YOU
RUBEN PASTOR,EBAY
ID ALUSTIZA
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From Greg at BOWSER.COM  Tue Dec 31 20:03:49 2002
From: Greg at BOWSER.COM (Greg@Bowser.com)
Date: Tue Dec 31 18:03:49 2002 MST
Subject: Looking for AM-1 diode
Message-ID: <mailman.13467.1294703102.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


Just received another great ebay purchase... For some reason, I have been
having bad luck lately with buying Heath stuff  from Ebay but that is
another long story.  My latest arrival is an AM-1 Antenna Impedance Meter
and found out that it is missing its diode.  Heath calls it a crystal
rectifier in the manual and gives it a Heath part number of 56-1.  Outside
of Heathkit, this is known as a CK 705 diode and I was wondering if someone
might know of a good sub for this?  I am thinking that a diode from the old
crystal radio sets, 1N34A might work as a replacement.  Looking for input
from those more knowledge than I on diodes.  Any diode heads out there?

Thanks in advance and Happy New Year to all.
Greg W8NGA

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From Wb2fou at AOL.COM  Tue Dec 31 21:20:11 2002
From: Wb2fou at AOL.COM (Marty Wb2Fou)
Date: Tue Dec 31 19:20:11 2002 MST
Subject: heath items for sale
Message-ID: <mailman.13468.1294703102.4768.heath@puck.nether.net>


for sale :   heath dx-35 all stock front panel dull . needs repainting .
$45.00
gd-125 q-multiplier clean and RARE . $25.oo

 plus shipping on items .

 Marty

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