[inet-ops] Prefix Pollution
Joe Provo
jzp-inetops at rsuc.gweep.net
Tue Dec 14 06:27:03 EST 2004
On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 10:58:14AM +0000, Michael.Dillon at radianz.com wrote:
[snip]
> The big task is going to be identifying the
> traffic engineering and the legitimate holes.
> That's where this list could be helpful so that
> people can explain what they are really doing
> with their shorter prefixes in case they get
> misclassified.
I many be a bit stodgey in this regard, but what comprises
'legitimate traffic engineering' that needs to be seen in
the DFZ?
It is trivial to leak deaggregates to one's providers
tagged NO_EXPORT. Beyond the radius of $s flowing, what
is 'legitimate'? And 'company already doing it at a
flag day' or 'company who employs $person' aren't
acceptable answers.
The litmus test of 'breaks reachability' isn't much of a
bar, as people are going out of their way to do that with
no discernable benefit.
Likely some combination of 'breaks reachability' and 'not
trivially reduced by as-path' needs to be concocted, as
there are many many trivial examples that from N arbitrary
ASNs away have no differentiation in path. I'm not even
talking about 'global corporation carving their legacy
allocations up' or 'global entity behind nat/firewall
exposing small slices as DMZes'... off the top of my head,
Nestle US:
route-views.oregon-ix.net>sho ip bgp 165.131.0.0/16 lo | inc /
* 165.131.118.0/23 196.7.106.245 0 0 2905 701 7018 31880 ?
* 165.131.124.0/23 196.7.106.245 0 0 2905 701 7018 31880 ?
* 165.131.174.0/23 196.7.106.245 0 0 2905 701 7018 31880 ?
route-views.oregon-ix.net>sho ip bgp quote-reg "_31880" | inc /
* 165.131.118.0/23 196.7.106.245 0 0 2905 701 7018 31880 ?
* 165.131.124.0/23 196.7.106.245 0 0 2905 701 7018 31880 ?
* 165.131.174.0/23 196.7.106.245 0 0 2905 701 7018 31880 ?
route-views.oregon-ix.net>sho ip bgp quote-reg "_31880" | ex 7018
BGP table version is 23826096, local router ID is 198.32.162.100
Status codes: s suppressed, d damped, h history, * valid, > best, i -
internal,
S Stale
Origin codes: i - IGP, e - EGP, ? - incomplete
Network Next Hop Metric LocPrf Weight Path
route-views.oregon-ix.net>
joe
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