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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:blue'>To clarify, my point was that getting access to content is not
easy, and part of the challenge is that some content owners require CA and they
need to approve the CA selection.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:blue'>The state of CA today is that not every CA vendor works with every
middleware and even then, the middleware vendor may not integrate those selected
CA vendors into every STB model. In the U.S. market, seeing what Minerva
and Myrio have done in the last few years with their CA partners (Widevine, Irdeto,
Verimatrix, etc), it’s clear that middleware vendors are much more selective
about who they work with than before.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:blue'>I’m not sure what you mean by “Why do you think they ‘pull
your tap’ at the pole when you don't pay for cable?”. We’re
talking about IP TV, not RF.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:blue'>And when you say “Encryption is not required once the content
is at your premises”, I presume you mean the customer premises. Based
on what I’ve seen from content owners, the video stream needs to remain encrypted
in the head end/CO and in the access network. Only when it hits the
customer’s STB is it to be descrypted. And if you receive your
content and need to bulk-decrypt it for some reason, depending on the contract
that the transport vendor had with the content owner, and the contract the
service provider has with the content owner, it will need to be encrypted again.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:blue'>It’s my belief that, in time, most content will need to be
encrypted. Only stuff like the shopping channels and the like will not
require it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:blue'>Frank<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> D. Ryan Spott
[mailto:rspott@cspott.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 12, 2009 12:01 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> frnkblk@iname.com<br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'Charles Wyble'; iptv-users@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [iptv-users] Open source IPTV bits<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Conditional access is easiest. No physical connection, no
access. Why do you think they "pull your tap" at the pole when you
don't pay for cable?<br>
<br>
Encryption is not required once the content is at your premises.<br>
<br>
ryan<br>
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Frank Bulk - iName.com wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
<pre>Certain content providers require encryption/conditional-access -- best of<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>luck trying to get them to approve an opensource DRM. You need all the<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>funding and resources of companies like Verimatrix, Widevine, Latens,<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Irdeto, Nagravision, etc to make that happen.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>>From my perspective, if a telco wants to provide IP TV, after all the market<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>and business research, the next thing to work on is content and encryption.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>The middleware, STBs, and network generally falls into place after that.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Fortunately, there are companies that will help with the content licensing<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>process (i.e. TeleChannel, National Telco TV Consortium, NRTC, and NCTC).<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Frank<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>From: <a
href="mailto:iptv-users-bounces@puck.nether.net">iptv-users-bounces@puck.nether.net</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>[<a
href="mailto:iptv-users-bounces@puck.nether.net">mailto:iptv-users-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>] On Behalf Of Charles Wyble<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 9:25 PM<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>To: <a
href="mailto:iptv-users@puck.nether.net">iptv-users@puck.nether.net</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Subject: Re: [iptv-users] Open source IPTV bits<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Frank Bulk - iName.com wrote:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre>If there's one thing I've learned about IPTV since getting into it, it's<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>that IP TV in the home is very different than the service provider space.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Can you expand on that a bit?<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>You mean delivery to end users vs wholesale?<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre>One reason that open source isn't a starter, at least in North America, is<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>the requirement by content providers for conditional access.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Hmmmm. A quick search reveals <a
href="https://dream.dev.java.net/">https://dream.dev.java.net/</a> (archived yes).<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>These things are solvable problems. :)<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre>Frank<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>From: <a
href="mailto:iptv-users-bounces@puck.nether.net">iptv-users-bounces@puck.nether.net</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>[<a
href="mailto:iptv-users-bounces@puck.nether.net">mailto:iptv-users-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>] On Behalf Of Charles Wyble<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 7:40 PM<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>To: <a
href="mailto:iptv-users@puck.nether.net">iptv-users@puck.nether.net</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Subject: [iptv-users] Open source IPTV bits<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>I figure I should start another thread about this....<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Here is a copy/paste from a mind map I have done.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Content Acquisition<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> MythTV<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> TvHeadEnd<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> FuriousTV<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Server Side<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> Content Acquisition<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> MythTV<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> TvHeadEnd<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> FuriousTV<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> Middleware<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> Toroid<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> Streamnik<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> Mim<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> Motama<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Middleware<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> Toroid<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> Streamnik<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> Mim<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> Motama<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Still figuring out IPTV infrastructure/architecture. Any good <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>books/papers on this? The wikipedia page is pretty complete.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>TvHeadEnd <a
href="http://lonelycoder.com/hts/">http://lonelycoder.com/hts/</a> seems fairly mature.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Toroid <a
href="http://www.toroid.tv/">http://www.toroid.tv/</a> is fairly new.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Motama <a
href="http://www.motama.com/">http://www.motama.com/</a> is a pretty mature project.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>I recently read an article in light reading covering Cisco solutions. <o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a
href="http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=177356&print=yes">http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=177356&print=yes</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>and some interesting links to other tests they had done (like the CRS1).<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>iptv-users mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a
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