[j-nsp] Junos feature licensing?

[Richmond, Jeff (ELI)]

I think Juniper is taking a well deserved beating over this. I know we have provided feedback through our account team, and from what I hear from other Juniper customers, they have been doing the same. So, it sounds like the field is providing the info back up the chain, so we'll see what Juniper management does. 

Logical routers I could maybe see, but IPV6? Give me a break...

-Jeff

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[mailto:juniper-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net]On Behalf Of Raymond
Macharia
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 10:44 PM
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Subject: RE: [j-nsp] Junos feature licensing?


I have already faced this huge road block when trying to recommend to
management that we switch to Juniper.
I hope someone from Juniper is feeling this rumblings

Raymond Macharia

Head of Engineering

Accesskenya

raymond at accesskenya.com

 

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[mailto:juniper-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Michael Loftis
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 7:43 AM
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--On July 15, 2005 4:45:18 PM +0200 sthaug at nethelp.no wrote:

>> > Juniper now also wants you to pay extra for IPv6, and for using
>> > logical routers. One license for each of these. Yes, this applies
>> > to M7i/M10i. Incredibly bad idea, IMNSHO.
>>
>> Thank you for bringing this up.
>> This will be a factor in purchasing decisions down the road.
>
> Good. I believe that voting with your wallet is the only thing that
> will work here. We certainly intend to do so.

I know I'll have a hard time recommending Juniper gear until they undo the 
licensing mess.  The boxes are already a hefty premium over a number of 
comparable alternate vendor configurations (without jumping into solely 
software/PC based routers).  So far we're not deploying IPv6 today, but 
it's a major concern.  If Juniper networks is going to take this sort of 
stance for licensing that, whats next?  OSPF?  BGP?

Yup, that sounds absurd to us, as engineers.  But what does the suit think 
about it?

Disconcerting I must say.  I think wallet voting, and complaining 
to/through your VARs, Resellers, and Juniper Reps is a really good idea.
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