[j-nsp] CARP

Tony Li tony.li at tony.li
Tue Oct 25 20:20:07 EDT 2005



I'm curious...  Did anyone ever submit an Internet draft to the IETF?

Tony


On Oct 25, 2005, at 4:29 PM, Matt Yaklin wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, 25 Oct 2005, Chris Cappuccio wrote:
>
>
>> I was reading through the list archives and noticed a comment,
>>
>> "Please summarize on the list what you find out. I recognize that  
>> core
>> OpenBSD folks have more clues than I'll ever have, but I'm really  
>> annoyed
>> how childishly they behave, instead of writing draft describing CARP
>> and getting protocol number from IANA, you have to read CARP source
>> and fear the setup you've explained above.
>>  To more describe the anti-social behaviour they said they've chosen
>> protocol number not used by any relevant protocol, sigh."
>>
>> Just so you know,
>>
>> 1. the IANA was rude and dismissive in their response to OpenBSD's  
>> request
>> for a CARP protocol number (this is in spite of the protocol being  
>> documented
>> and implemented with a BSD license)
>>
>> 2. far from anti-social, OpenBSD's carp implementation currently  
>> uses a
>> protocol number far above anything the IANA has allocated so it  
>> won't clash
>> on people's existing networks or with future IANA protocols that  
>> are allocated
>>
>>
>
> http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html#35
>
> As a final note of course, when we petitioned IANA, the IETF body
> regulating "official" internet protocol numbers, to give us numbers  
> for
> CARP and pfsync our request was denied. Apparently we had failed to go
> through an official standards organization. Consequently we were  
> forced to
> choose a protocol number which would not conflict with anything  
> else of
> value, and decided to place CARP at IP protocol 112. We also placed  
> pfsync
> at an open and unused number. We informed IANA of these decisions, but
> they declined to reply.
>
> This ridiculous situation then inspired one of our developers to  
> create
> this parody of the well-known Monty Python skit and song.
>
> m
>
>
>>
>>
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